Speculation: Free Agent Frenzy Part II - Who is left?

[Ghost of jas]

I could easily see this Karlsson thing dragging out into the first couple months of the season.

Drag it all the way to the trade deadline.

 

[RGY]

Drag it all the way to the trade deadline.

Dragging it to the deadline hurts Ottawa severely. No playoff contending team will want to take on Ryan’s contract for only 2-3 months of EK.

This is the time to move EK if they are serious about dumping Ryan’s contract. Teams have more cap space now with their rosters not established

 

[darko]

Sens don't need to move Ryan with EK. They can be separate deals.

 

[nyr__1994]

You really think the Sens would accept that offer? And if so, why?

Look at what they got in return for Hoffman.....When the deal is based more around financial reasons than hockey reasons strange things happen....

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Sens don't need to move Ryan with EK. They can be separate deals.

They don’t need to, but they’ve been trying to.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Dragging it to the deadline hurts Ottawa severely. No playoff contending team will want to take on Ryan’s contract for only 2-3 months of EK.

This is the time to move EK if they are serious about dumping Ryan’s contract. Teams have more cap space now with their rosters not established

I don’t care if it screws Ottawa. I care what works best for the Rangers.

 

[RGY]

Sens don't need to move Ryan with EK. They can be separate deals.

Sure but the Sens arent in a position to attach the assets to Ryan in a separate deal for the acquiring team to take him imo. The organization is going into a rebuild. They traded Hoffman. They are trading EK. Mcarthur is LTIR. Brassard traded at the deadline. Turris traded last year. Roster looks a lot different from two years ago. They cant afford to give up young assets.

EK is going with Ryan attached

 

[RGY]

I don’t care if it screws Ottawa. I care what works best for the Rangers.

Well this is a discussion board so discussing the nature of what is logical for Ottawa in this situation only makes sense, especially if we are involved. I dont know...lets just not discuss anything then

 

[darko]

They don’t need to, but they’ve been trying to.

Yeah but judging by some of the proposals on here we are getting EK just about for free.

Spooner and garbage for Ryan and EK. That's a horrible deal for Ottawa.

 

[NYR Viper]

I can see The Islanders trading for Duchene and giving him big money. He isn't staying in Ottawa

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yeah but judging by some of the proposals on here we are getting EK just about for free.

Spooner and garbage for Ryan and EK. That's a horrible deal for Ottawa.

Well yeah those aren’t realistic but that doesn’t mean that Ottawa aren’t trying to package the two of them together.

 

[darko]

Sure but the Sens arent in a position to attach the assets to Ryan in a separate deal for the acquiring team to take him imo. The organization is going into a rebuild. They traded Hoffman. They are trading EK. Mcarthur is LTIR. Brassard traded at the deadline. Turris traded last year. Roster looks a lot different from two years ago. They cant afford to give up young assets.

EK is going with Ryan attached

Are they really that desperate to move Ryan? They are rebuilding and won't spend anywhere near the cap. They are better off putting up with Ryan for couple years and then buying him out when the buyout isn't too severe.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Sens don't need to move Ryan with EK. They can be separate deals.

I think they’re inter-related. Ottawa seems to place a high importance on moving Ryan. A third team is going to have to be brought in.

 

[RGY]

Are they really that desperate to move Ryan? They are rebuilding and won't spend anywhere near the cap. They are better off putting up with Ryan for couple years and then buying him out when the buyout isn't too severe.

I would agree with you on the latter, but Ottawa seems very desperate to move Ryan. I mean given the suggestions you have made, it has to make you curious as to why Ryan has to be moved. Is it a personal thing? Is he a bad guy? Are they worried about his body holding up? Something we dont know about his health?

 

[Ghost of jas]

Well this is a discussion board so discussing the nature of what is logical for Ottawa in this situation only makes sense, especially if we are involved. I dont know...lets just not discuss anything then

The Sens have already botched this. Why would expect them to suddenly become competent?

 

[nyr__1994]

I would agree with you on the latter, but Ottawa seems very desperate to move Ryan. I mean given the suggestions you have made, it has to make you curious as to why Ryan has to be moved. Is it a personal thing? Is he a bad guy? Are they worried about his body holding up? Something we dont know about his health?

Any long term commitments to the team lower the franchise value for either restructuring debt or selling the team. If good ole Eugene is in the dire straits some seem to think he is, the less long term commitments, the more he can get for the team.

 

[Webster]

Nice if Karlsson wants to play for us, his buddy Hank could persuade him to come here

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Nice if Karlsson wants to play for us, his buddy Hank could persuade him to come here

His buddy can't lower the asking price though

 

[Gardner McKay]

To get out of the awful Ryan contract.

Would you make that deal if you were Ottawa?

 

[RGY]

Would you make that deal if you were Ottawa?

Spooner, ADA, 1st, 2nd? Maybe one more piece in a prospect form?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Spooner, ADA, 1st, 2nd? Maybe one more piece in a prospect form?

The post above to you still applies.

 

[NernieBichols]

Well if carp isn’t posturing for the rangers, then those of you saying they wouldn’t be in on karlsson were right.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

It’ll take Hayes and Skjei to get Karlsson.

Spooner Ada and picks lol. Maybe as additions to those two.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Spooner, ADA, 1st, 2nd? Maybe one more piece in a prospect form?

Again, if you were GM of Ottawa, would you trade EK for that package, just to get out of the Ryan contract? Me thinks the answer is no. There isn't enough quality there even if we are absorbing Bobby Ryan.

 

[RGY]

The post above to you still applies.

What would need to be added to take on that Ryan contract.