Speculation: Free Agent Frenzy Part II - Who is left?

[Edge]

Yeah that move would just run completely contrary to everything I thought the team was trying to do. I don't like everything they're doing, but I get it--it's clearly part of a cogent plan. That would just blow up all logic I thought existed.

I think the "concept" of signing Voynov is far more tangible than the reality of it.

I just don't see it happening.

But it makes for an interesting "what if" scenario to unnecessarily get the blood pressure going during an otherwise slow news cycle for the team.

 

[BringBackLibertys]

To be fair, we benched Hank for like 3 weeks and the backup was outstanding.

Stupid talented free to us (Not even a pick) young backup. What was he thinking trying to prove he belonged in the NHL?

 

[Inferno]

Can anyone recird the Gorton thing tonight? Was gonna stream it but I've got a beer league draft to attend..and we usually take like 3 hours to draft a 12 person team (nuts right?)

 

[Ghost of jas]

I was hoping it was about free agency/trades etc, however it sounds like this is a post-draft sort of thing. So....

1) For consecutive years now, the team has "reached" for a players who have been ranked by concensus significantly lower then where they were selected. The "pattern" seems very risky for a team that cashed in its chips to orchestrate a rebuild. Can you explain this new drafting strategy to the fans?

2) What didn't the Organization like about Oliver Wahlstrom, a player who potentially check a heck of a lot of boxes for the NYR's needs.

3) Outside of Dahlin and Svechnikov, who was the one player that the war room wanted that wasn't there with the #26 (#22), or #28?

Kravtsov ended up at 12 on McKenzie’s rankings. How exactly is that significantly lower than 9?

 

[Blueblood9]

The from what I've seen the last yr or so this seems to be a rebuild reminiscant of what the Bruins did in 05 06 07. Traded Thornton and other players signed chara and other key fa and filled on the rest with draft picks.

Wonder how he got that idea. There were a ton of moves don't have time to go into it but I've posted it here before. If this is the way hes modeling the rebuild then they're going HEAVY after Karlsson

 

[Ghost of jas]

Who exactly has connected the Rangers to Voynov? People seem to want to bitch for the sake of bitching.

 

[bobbop]

People envy the Buffalo and Arizona rebuilds.

Deplete all talent, finish last, get top 3 pick....keep finishing last.

I don't envy the Arizona rebuild. I've been watching it for years. The hockey got so bad a few years ago, I cancelled my tickets. I am talking bad AHL caliber hockey. The only time I go anymore is when the Rangers or other Metropolitan Division rivals are in town. A lot of you have no idea how bad a rebuild can get.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I think the "concept" of signing Voynov is far more tangible than the reality of it.

I just don't see it happening.

But it makes for an interesting "what if" scenario to unnecessarily get the blood pressure going during an otherwise slow news cycle for the team.

I believe the term the youngins use is ‘clickbait ‘. The silly season never ends around here.

 

[silverfish]

Who exactly has connected the Rangers to Voynov? People seem to want to ***** for the sake of *****ing.

I'm sure it's just rando people hitting the Rangers name whenever they post a tweet to get more traction but feels like every time Voynov comes up he's "linked to the Rangers". Is there any validity to this? I have no idea.

 

[Edge]

Who exactly has connected the Rangers to Voynov? People seem to want to ***** for the sake of *****ing.

I have to tell you, sometimes I feel like this board goes a little Sean Avery.

Just throwing crap against the wall to see if it garners a reaction.

There is literally nothing going on right now that should have people riled up.

The cupboard is as full as it's been in nearly 30 years.

The Rangers haven't signed any stupid contracts and even the ones they were "linked" to were pretty minor.

The Rangers haven't issued a declaration that everyone must go for whatever can be had, nor have they issued a declaration that they are going balls deep in their efforts to build a team that can contend now.

People are getting bent out of shape about the arguments they are mainly having in their own heads.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Can anyone recird the Gorton thing tonight? Was gonna stream it but I've got a beer league draft to attend..and we usually take like 3 hours to draft a 12 person team (nuts right?)

Can I bitch when you get picked for being an overdraft?

... Both here and on a radio program that no one listens to?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I'm sure it's just rando people hitting the Rangers name whenever they post a tweet to get more traction but feels like every time Voynov comes up he's "linked to the Rangers". Is there any validity to this? I have no idea.

Where has he been linked to the Rangers?

I've seen him linked to Philly before but never here.

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

What are they trying to build?

A lineup featuring 18 left handed defensemen.

 

[Blueblood9]

Last-to-first Bruins a fine example of rebuilding | The Star

They're a section in there that gorton was in charge of the draft cause chiarello couldn't partake cause of contract issues and he was pissed at gorton for taking lucic cause chi had him ranked lower.

If I remember correctly gorton also was the one that traded for raask

Edit found my post from the trade deadline thread

From the moves that Gorton has done this rebuild looks a lot like what the Bruins did a decade ago.

The thorton trade (agm at the time) i equate to the mcd trade as a change in leadership in the room. Also while agm was part of drafting bergeron, kreji, lucic and marchand.
He then became interim gm where he signed chara, and savard. Traded raycraft fosavers.

I see him trying to replicate a combo of what the Bruins did in 05-06 and in 15.

If that's the case I see them backing up the truck for doughty ala the chara deal. To speed up the rebuild. If we get the a top 3 pick and sign doughty this team will contend for the playofs in 2-3 years and a cup in 3-4

 

[Edge]

Where has he been linked to the Rangers?

I've seen him linked to Philly before but never here.

Supposedly the Rangers are one of five teams for which he'd want to play. Ironically, that goes back to my original point about the Rangers not having to worry about being an attractive destination for players --- even if they are scum bags.

But that rumor aside, there has been zero indication the Rangers are interested. There's nothing linking him to the Rangers; no nuggets dropped by the team --- nothing.

Brooks mentioned as much back in April, but it keeps coming up because of the perceived need the Rangers have for a 28 year old right handed defenseman.

 

[silverfish]

Where has he been linked to the Rangers?

I've seen him linked to Philly before but never here.

Again, anywhere official? No. In weird Russian outlets? Yes.

I suppose I'll caveat again that I do not expect the Rangers to be interested in obtaining Voynov's services.

 

[E-Train]

People are getting bent out of shape about the arguments they are mainly having in their own heads.

Luckily, it seems to be a small percentage of the board.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I have to tell you, sometimes I feel like this board goes a little Sean Avery.

Just throwing crap against the wall to see if it garners a reaction.

There is literally nothing going on right now that should have people riled up.

The cupboard is as full as it's been in nearly 30 years.

The Rangers haven't signed any stupid contracts and even the ones they were "linked" to were pretty minor.

The Rangers haven't issued a declaration that everyone must go for whatever can be had, nor have they issued a declaration that they are going balls deep in their efforts to build a team that can contend now.

People are getting bent out of shape about the arguments they are mainly having in their own heads.

I wanted to post a diatribe about the last three months.

1). The Rangers issue the letter.

2). They say they’re going to move people at the deadline. They move just about everyone they expected to move for good to very good returns. Along the way, the critics were in total disbelief and didn’t think they would do it.

3) When Gorton was asked about the status of the head coach, he was noncommittal. ‘The Rangers are going to keep AV’, was the cry. He was canned on the night of the end of the season.

4). Gorton said he was looking for a coach that could grow with the team. ‘The Rangers will hire a retread’ we heard. Quinn gets hired.

5). Gorton says the Rangers are looking at speed, skill and character, especially in the first round. ‘The Rangers are going play it safe and draft for character at the draft.’ They go for three high end picks in terms of upside.

6). Gorton says the Rangers are not looking at signing players to long term deals. Half the board doesn’t understand why the Rangers didn’t sign a bunch of overpriced FAs on day one of the free agency.

Everything Gorton has said he was going to do, he’s done so far. There’s no mystery here. But, it is apparently difficult for people to overcome their own preconceived notions.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I'm sure it's just rando people hitting the Rangers name whenever they post a tweet to get more traction but feels like every time Voynov comes up he's "linked to the Rangers". Is there any validity to this? I have no idea.

Maybe I read it wrong, but I saw nothing on the tweet posted about Voynov that connected him to the Rangers.

 

[bobbop]

Kravtsov ended up at 12 on McKenzie’s rankings. How exactly is that significantly lower than 9?

One of the things that was very obvious from McKenzie's ratings and his commentary on TV was that Gordie Clark was one of his sources.

Right before the pick, he said the Rangers had spent a lot of time in Russia. Hint, Hint. Sort of like the NBA commentator who couldn't reveal the picks but he telegraphed the pick before it was announced.

 

[Lion Hound]

Kravtsov ended up at 12 on McKenzie’s rankings. How exactly is that significantly lower than 9?

Thats one service. He was also #36 on ISS, and #28 on FC. Redline had him at #11. First question isn't singling out Kravtsov. Its almost every selection they make. Maybe Kravtsov was closer, but last year the concensus ranking was was off for both first rounder.

Lindbom was selected at #39. Consensus ranking was about #98.

The questions i want to see posed should address they why, and also what they didnt like about some of the other players.

 

[TheTakedown]

I don’t like this whole idea of “proper” rebuilding on here. One particular aspect that irks me is not wanting Gorton to improve the team for the sake of being as bad as possible. The farther the team falls, the higher they’ll eventually have to climb.

If there was such a thing as "proper rebuilds", then every team would be doing it.

 

[member 116805]

Andreas Martinsen wants to be a Ranger, he's the tough guy they are looking for. Huge truck, hits hard and fights. Gorton, talk to the Blackhawks about a trade. And Zucc wouldn't mind another Norwegian in the lineup

No he does not. If he did, how come he signed with the Blackhawks a few weeks ago?

 

[Lion Hound]

One of the things that was very obvious from McKenzie's ratings and his commentary on TV was that Gordie Clark was one of his sources.

Right before the pick, he said the Rangers had spent a lot of time in Russia. Hint, Hint. Sort of like the NBA commentator who couldn't reveal the picks but he telegraphed the pick before it was announced.

Definatly...Gordie has to be one of the ten. McKenzie was all over it. He himself might have even said it was a reach. I have to listen to it again.

 

[Mikos87]

One of the things that was very obvious from McKenzie's ratings and his commentary on TV was that Gordie Clark was one of his sources.

Right before the pick, he said the Rangers had spent a lot of time in Russia. Hint, Hint. Sort of like the NBA commentator who couldn't reveal the picks but he telegraphed the pick before it was announced.

It's more than Bobby Mac. It's Macguire too, he lives very close to the Rangers practice facility and has a lot of ties in the area. They know about the picks, players in advance, but as journalists with integrity they don't give it away. Like before the McIlrath pick: "They like toughness".