GDT: Free agency madness, brought to you by the letter G

[Deku]

I remember Klingberg being really good in the bubble playoffs during their run to the finals. Then he was a -28 on a playoff team this year. Woof.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I don’t think we’re getting a d-man without parting with Formenton. Bruce wouldn’t float his name out there as trade bait if he was in the team’s long-term plans.

 

[Bevans]

Pens just signed Rutta I wonder if that is their insurance to losing a roster guy, like Marino?



Shouldn't this make us want to trade him more?

And other people want to trade for him less.

 

[edguy]

And other people want to trade for him less.

But why are fans around here so against trading him? If Formenton is being asked about should we not listen?

 

[bert]

I think that having the puck on your stick more, the upfront guys, should also help the defence?

Starts at the back end. If they can't get the forwards the puck then they won't be able to produce. This team is light back there its not new news to anyone. They have to address it and they are trying to.

But why are fans around here so against trading him? If Formenton is being asked about should we not listen?

Can't trade him now after losing Brown.

 

[edguy]

Can't trade him now after losing Brown.

Sure we can, if we are getting that surefire top 4 RHD back. There are free agents out there we can add to fill the void Formenton leaves. Guys like Kessel and Neiderreider could both fill that void short term until Greig is ready. Or Milano could be a more long term fit on that 3rd line.

 

[bert]

Sure we can, if we are getting that surefire top 4 RHD back. There are free agents out there we can add to fill the void Formenton leaves. Guys like Kessel and Neiderreider could both fill that void short term until Greig is ready. Or Milano could be a more long term fit on that 3rd line.

Phil Kessel is going to fill Formentons role. What? Polar opposite players. Kessel doesn't kill penalties or work hard. Sens still need to be hard to play against. Formenton is just getting started. I cannot wrap my head around this boards dislike of Formenton. He's such a unique player 18 goals as a rookie none on the pp at a very affordable cap hit. People think this is NHL 2022?

 

[Yak]

Rutta would been a good deal!

Klingberg wants to get paid and he is not the young good Klingberg anymore and wants term and we need to stay clear of that.

Marino is interesting and honestly I don't know a lot about him but he has term and is highly regarded.

Weegar is looking to get paid and term and is honestly not the stay at home defensive style we need.

Soucy from the Kraken is a player I would look at, he is 1 year away from UFA and was solid for the Wild.

Getting a top 4D is going to be harder then Cat trade or Big G signing!

 

[edguy]

Phil Kessel is going to fill Formentons role. What? Polar opposite players. Kessel doesn't kill penalties or work hard. Sens still need to be hard to play against. Formenton is just getting started. I cannot wrap my head around this boards dislike of Formenton. He's such a unique player 18 goals as a rookie none on the pp at a very affordable cap hit. People think this is NHL 2022?

Nobody dislikes Formenton. Stop spreading false narratives, thats not healthy for anyone. There is a difference between trading him for scraps and dealing him for a legitimate top 4 RHD. If we want quality players we have to give up quality players. You are right this is not NHL22, if we want a top end piece like a Chychrun or Weegar or Marino, we have to give up pieces we won't want to lose under regular conditions.

We are in a spot we need a quality top 4 RHD badly, and we are going to have to pay for that piece and Formenton is by far the most replaceable, valuable player on our roster. Formenton is not a unique player, who is irreplaceable, he is a good piece, yes. Irreplaceable? No way.

 

[Korpse]

I'm pleasantly surprised Gaudreau went to Columbus. Not to count CBJ out before the season starts but I feel better about the chance of sneaking into the playoffs with him there rather than a place like NJ.

 

[bert]

Nobody dislikes Formenton. Stop spreading false narratives, thats not healthy for anyone. There is a difference between trading him for scraps and dealing him for a legitimate top 4 RHD. If we want quality players we have to give up quality players. You are right this is not NHL22, if we want a top end piece like a Chychrun or Weegar or Marino, we have to give up pieces we won't want to lose under regular conditions.

We are in a spot we need a quality top 4 RHD badly, and we are going to have to pay for that piece and Formenton is by far the most replaceable, valuable player on our roster. Formenton is not a unique player, who is irreplaceable, he is a good piece, yes. Irreplaceable? No way.

You're willing to trade him and replace him with Phil Kessel. You're lost. I'm not spreading false narratives you said it. He is very unique you just don't know what you're talking about when evaluating this player. This team is bad defensively they need players like this. He is one of the best pkers in the league. They traded their best one.

 

[edguy]

You're willing to trade him and replace him with Phil Kessel. You're lost. I'm not spreading false narratives you said it. He is very unique you just don't know what you're talking about.

Come on Bert, you are better than this. You know the false narrative you said was regarding the hatred of Formenton.
It is easy to discredit others immediately when they disagree with you, but in what world is a 3rd line LW an untouchable piece for a top 4 RHD?

 

[bert]

Come on Bert, you are better than this. You know the false narrative you said was regarding the hatred of Formenton.
It is easy to discredit others immediately when they disagree with you, but in what world is a 3rd line LW an untouchable piece for a top 4 RHD?

They need defensive hard to play against players. He has potential to be a 25/30 goal top defensive player in the league Top 5 fastest players in hockey. They just traded Connor Brown their best pk guy. They trade Formenton and it creates another hole. I see so many sens fans wanting to trade this guy. He is part of the core he is 22! This team isn't peaking next year it's going to be in 2 to 3. Where he will be absolutely integral. When you suggest things like simply replacing him with Kessel and Niederreiter it makes me question if you have a good handle on these players.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

They need defensive hard to play against players. He has potential to be a 25/30 goal top defensive player in the league Top 5 fastest players in hockey. They just traded Connor Brown their best pk guy. They trade Formenton and it creates another hole. I see so many sens fans wanting to trade this guy. He is part of the core he is 22! This team isn't peaking next year it's going to be in 2 to 3. Where he will be absolutely integral. When you suggest things like simply replacing him with Kessel and Niederreiter it makes me question if you have a good handle on these players.

If the organization does trade him, it will be hard not to assume they know something about the Hockey Canada incident that the public doesn't. I agree, its seems really odd to have his name put out there so much after a successful rookie season.

That said if they're bringing in a top 4 D, we probably won't like what it costs whether it's Formenton or not.

 

[Korpse]

If the organization does trade him, it will be hard not to assume they know something about the Hockey Canada incident that the public doesn't. I agree, its seems really odd to have his name put out there so much after a successful rookie season.

Feels like there is something there. Found it odd when Dorion was asked about the investigation recently.

 

[bert]

If the organization does trade him, it will be hard not to assume they know something about the Hockey Canada incident that the public doesn't. I agree, its seems really odd to have his name put out there so much after a successful rookie season.

That said if they're bringing in a top 4 D, we probably won't like what it costs whether it's Formenton or not.

So why would he have any value at all then? Burns cost nothing need to find a similar situation.

 

[IranCondraAffair]

I remember Klingberg being really good in the bubble playoffs during their run to the finals. Then he was a -28 on a playoff team this year. Woof.

He's basically done a complete 180 since he was put under a new coach.

Maybe that turns around, and maybe it doesn't

 

[edguy]

They need defensive hard to play against players. He has potential to be a 25/30 goal top defensive player in the league Top 5 fastest players in hockey. They just traded Connor Brown their best pk guy. They trade Formenton and it creates another hole. I see so many sens fans wanting to trade this guy. He is part of the core he is 22! This team isn't peaking next year it's going to be in 2 to 3. Where he will be absolutely integral. When you suggest things like simply replacing him with Kessel and Niederreiter it makes me question if you have a good handle on these players.

We can't have a core so large that it stretches to include 3rd line players. This is where we disagree. I think we both believe in Formenton's ability and skills. But to consider a 3rd liner, who kills penalties part of the core is where ya lose me. These kinds of players get moved all the time, look at Pageau who we had in that role and wasn't considered part of our core. Both great complimentary pieces, not core pieces. Both great assets, but expendable for a piece we have been in desperate need of.

 

[Yak]

We can't have a core so large that it stretches to include 3rd line players. This is where we disagree. I think we both believe in Formenton's ability and skills. But to consider a 3rd liner, who kills penalties part of the core is where ya lose me. These kinds of players get moved all the time, look at Pageau who we had in that role and wasn't considered part of our core. Both great complimentary pieces, not core pieces. Both great assets, but expendable for a piece we have been in desperate need of.

Forms is our C. Brown replacement but with more potential. We have other pieces and tons of draft capital that will help us aquire a top 4D.

We can argue all day and night but once we make the trade is when we can decide if it was over payment or not.

We need to identify targets and hopefully PD can target them for us...lol

 

[OttawaSenators11]

I just hope whoever they get to play D is legit - I rather pay the price money and assets for a really good one personally.

 

[GCK]

Rutta would been a good deal!

Klingberg wants to get paid and he is not the young good Klingberg anymore and wants term and we need to stay clear of that.

Marino is interesting and honestly I don't know a lot about him but he has term and is highly regarded.

Weegar is looking to get paid and term and is honestly not the stay at home defensive style we need.

Soucy from the Kraken is a player I would look at, he is 1 year away from UFA and was solid for the Wild.

Getting a top 4D is going to be harder then Cat trade or Big G signing!

Look at the rumoured D targets, Dorion is looking for a RD that can bring some offence not a stay at home type.

 

[edguy]

Forms is our C. Brown replacement but with more potential. We have other pieces and tons of draft capital that will help us aquire a top 4D.

We can argue all day and night but once we make the trade is when we can decide if it was over payment or not.

We need to identify targets and hopefully PD can target them for us...lol

The only guys I think Formenton would be worth moving for are Chychrun, Weegar (with an extension), and Marino. All Top 4 D, who make an immediate impact on this roster and allow us a better chance at playoff hockey.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Reading some of you guys' speculation really has me hoping Dorion fills that top-4 hole ASAP. No offense!

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Johnny Hockey taking less money to play for the Jackets has to be one of the biggest shockers we’ve seen over last little bit.

Feel bad for Calgary but thrilled that CLB was able to finally attact a high profile player for once!

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Forms is our C. Brown replacement but with more potential. We have other pieces and tons of draft capital that will help us aquire a top 4D.

We can argue all day and night but once we make the trade is when we can decide if it was over payment or not.

We need to identify targets and hopefully PD can target them for us...lol

Are we sure Formenton is staying?