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and yet some of the idiots on this board want to TrAdE zUb. :eyeroll:
 
I’ve literally never seen trading Zub as somethimg parroted here, at least not by more than a single person or something.

We’re utterly f***ed without him.
 
I’ve literally never seen trading Zub as somethimg parroted here, at least not by more than a single person or something.

We’re utterly f***ed without him.
There been talk about that in the off season here, due to the number of games he misses.
 
I’ve literally never seen trading Zub as somethimg parroted here, at least not by more than a single person or something.

We’re utterly f***ed without him.

I think there needs to be a distinction between pitching "Wouldn't it be great if we traded Zub" vs "I wonder if Staios will move Zub because of xyz".

I have seen and been part of discussions with some of the latter, but it doesn't mean people don't accurately understand how important of a role he plays.
 
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and yet some of the idiots on this board want to TrAdE zUb. :eyeroll:
I don't think people want to trade Zub. I think there's major concerns about his health, durability and ability to stay in the lineup.

2022-23: missed 29 games
2023-24: missed 13 games
2024-25: missed 25 games, so far

That's a lot of time he's not in the lineup every year. I don't think anyone is under the illusion that you can guarantee yourself you find a guy who dresses every game but he's only had 1 season out of 5 so far without major health issues. Is it idiotic to wonder if you can find someone who's reliably healthier?
 
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I don't think people want to trade Zub. I think there's major concerns about his health, durability and ability to stay in the lineup.

2022-23: missed 29 games
2023-24: missed 13 games
2024-25: missed 25 games, so far

That's a lot of time he's not in the lineup every year. I don't think anyone is under the illusion that you can guarantee yourself you find a guy who dresses every game but he's only had 1 season out of 5 so far without major health issues. Is it idiotic to wonder if you can find someone who's reliably healthier?

fluke injuries though.
 
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Zubs injury concerns are valid. It makes sense to want an upgrade but even 50 games if Zub that bring out the best in Sanderson is better than uncertainty.

This isn't like Norris where we have a serviceable player in Pinto that can step up. We don't have anyone that can fill in Zubs shoes without destroying our D. Put Jensen with Sandy and you make Chabot useless and make Hamonic a surefire for 2nd pairing minutes.

Really hope we can hit a few more homeruns in FA with random signings like Zub.
 
Zubs injury concerns are valid. It makes sense to want an upgrade but even 50 games if Zub that bring out the best in Sanderson is better than uncertainty.

This isn't like Norris where we have a serviceable player in Pinto that can step up. We don't have anyone that can fill in Zubs shoes without destroying our D. Put Jensen with Sandy and you make Chabot useless and make Hamonic a surefire for 2nd pairing minutes.

Really hope we can hit a few more homeruns in FA with random signings like Zub.
This is why I want someone like Fabbro.
 
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I don't think people want to trade Zub. I think there's major concerns about his health, durability and ability to stay in the lineup.

2022-23: missed 29 games
2023-24: missed 13 games
2024-25: missed 25 games, so far

That's a lot of time he's not in the lineup every year. I don't think anyone is under the illusion that you can guarantee yourself you find a guy who dresses every game but he's only had 1 season out of 5 so far without major health issues. Is it idiotic to wonder if you can find someone who's reliably healthier?
Ya I think they definitely explore the options, makes sense.
 
I am just reading that Duclair has left the NYI based on a recent blow-up with Patrick Roy.

There are certainly some red flags with this player (9 teams in 11 seasons) but I really liked him as a player when he was here (54 points in 87 games) and he is just 2 years removed from a 58-point in 74 games season with Florida, which included 31 goals.

Only Chabot & Tkachuk remain from his time time in Ottawa, so they would know if he is a problem.
At $3.5m for the 3 next seasons and just 30 years old as of this summer, could be something worth exploring, as I don't think that Lou would be looking for a big return. They might even retain some $ on the deal.

We know how thin our prospects are, especially in terms of skilled forwards. The flip side of that is we don't have the assets to be making trades for a top-6 level player and we are not a desired destination for free agents and if we were, we don't have much cap space for a proven top-6 player.

I think this could make sense if they think he can possibly play in the top-6 as I think we have enough 3rd liners on the team as it is now. It's a bit of a stretch but he has great speed and there is past history (whether good or bad I am not really sure).
 
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I am just reading that Duclair has left the NYI based on a recent blow-up with Patrick Roy.

There are certainly some red flags with this player (9 teams in 11 seasons) but I really liked him as a player when he was here (54 points in 87 games) and he is just 2 years removed from a 58-point in 74 games season with Florida, which included 31 goals.

Only Chabot & Tkachuk remain from his time time in Ottawa, so they would know if he is a problem.
At $3.5m for the 3 next seasons and just 30 years old as of this summer, could be something worth exploring, as I don't think that Lou would be looking for a big return. They might even retain some $ on the deal.

We know how thin our prospects are, especially in terms of skilled forwards. The flip side of that is we don't have the assets to be making trades for a top-6 level player and we are not a desired destination for free agents and if we were, we don't have much cap space for a proven top-6 player.

I think this could make sense if they think he can possibly play in the top-6 as I think we have enough 3rd liners on the team as it is now. It's a bit of a stretch but he has great speed and there is past history (whether good or bad I am not really sure).
I'd take him if we got Pageau back at 50% as well.

Cousins-Pageau-Amadio would be the perfect 4th line next year and could play 12-13 min to give the top guys a break most nights.
 
I would buy low on Duclair if possible.

Roy has sucked as the coach of the Islanders, and he's just taking it out on Duclair.
 
I'd take Duclair if NYI pays us an asset or two. He'd bring some speed into the line up that we could use, but if we bring him in, he's not going to be put in a scoring role. Tkachuk and Perron pretty much have that the LW spot on lock. We're not separating Greig from Pinto and it would be a bit of a waste to have a $3.5 million play on the 4th line when he's best suited for a top 6 role.
 
I'd take Duclair if NYI pays us an asset or two. He'd bring some speed into the line up that we could use, but if we bring him in, he's not going to be put in a scoring role. Tkachuk and Perron pretty much have that the LW spot on lock. We're not separating Greig from Pinto and it would be a bit of a waste to have a $3.5 million play on the 4th line when he's best suited for a top 6 role.
Would need retention, especially with 3 more years to go, I don’t see AD coming to Ottawa.
 
There are certain players that you don't want on your team and Duclair is one of them. He's wildly inconsistent and I don't think he's ever flourished on a good team. Even when he was here, it was basically a 20 game hot streak surrounded by brutal results the rest of the time. He's filler on a loser, that's it. Same as Sprong
 
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Duclair is a weird one. He had a great season with us albeit on an absolutely brutal team.
The best season of his career was on a pretty good 21-22 Florida team. This was the 115-point Huberdeau season just before the Matthew Tkachuk trade with Calgary. 58 points in 74 games, which is very close to a 65 point season over 82 games.

Not sure if he was on a line with Huberdeau that season or not to inflate his numbers but I think there is some history of him being a top-6 player.

That said, I am not sure if he is the answer but I do think Staois is going to have to be creative in finding some additional offence for this team going forward.

I do like the sets of pairs that they have right now with:
Stutzle-Tkachuk
Cozens-Batherson
Pinto-Greig

All of these players are young so that bodes well for the future.
The recent play of Pinto & Greig tells me that the can both be productive players for the team, which will take some pressure off the other lines.

That leaves Giroux, Perron, Zetterlund & Amadio to fill out these lines.
Amadio has proven to be effective with Pinto & Greig on a third line.
He can slide into a top-6 role on a temporary basis with injury but that would be about it.

Perron has proven to be a great linemate to Cozens-Bath in the last few weeks but is going to be 37 in May. Is probably still going to be a good fit for another season but certainly a question mark going any further than the 25-26 season.

Same goes for Giroux. He is a very savvy player and can still play in the top-6 for now but for how much longer is a big question. Probably better suited on a third-line going forward for however much longer he still plays.

That leaves Zetterlund. He has the skillset to play in the top-6 but has obviously not yet produced stats-wise. We know that it took him some time to start producing in San Jose after being traded from NJD.

Will be interesting to see how things play out for the rest of this season and into the off-season.
We know that cap space is very limited, there is really no prospect in Belleville that projects for the top-6 right now. Very little in the way of asset capital to make a trade and they should be holding on to their draft picks to rebuild the prospect pool.

If they can get retention and/or some incentives to make the trade for Duclair or another player that might be in this type of situation,
 
If the Panthers don't re-sign him, I wonder if the Sens go after Sam Bennett. He fits the style of play this team likes, and since he's Canadian, he may be more willing to sign in Ottawa than most players.

Granted we do already have Cozens as a 2C, but maybe the team could just move him to Stutzle's wing instead.
 
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If the Panthers don't re-sign him, I wonder if the Sens go after Sam Bennett. He fits the style of play this team likes, and since he's Canadian, he may be more willing to sign in Ottawa than most players.

Granted we do already have Cozens as a 2C, but maybe the team could just move him to Stutzle's wing instead.

Some team is going to throw an absolutely ludacrous contract at Bennett his summer and I'd rather it not be us.
 
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