Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[Bileur]

Exactly what we need this offseason.

For this season it might be tough to grab a guy like that.

Looking around the league right now not a ton of guys that are available. Best case scenario you “help” maybe a top team “shed” some cap and get a decent player if they try to add a higher salary player at the deadline.

Otherwise guys like Bunting are probably on Staios’s radar, and on many other team’s radar, but he could make sense in terms of fit, salary and cost to acquire.

Have a feeling we’ll be going for a guy like Armia though. Good bottom 6 guy this year and has size and speed. Won’t cost too much to acquire, doesn’t cost too much as a player and Montreal could maybe retain a bit… we could keep him for next season as well.

I feel a very lowkey add coming our way. Probably one at F and one on D just to round things up and they’ll count on the core doing the damage.

Armia is a great target. Solid PK guy too.

 

[Ralph Malfredsson]

so basically Brannstrom (and two others) were traded for a 1st+ from NYR

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

so basically Brannstrom (and two others) were traded for a 1st+ from NYR

Such bad asset management by Staios. Don't know why he didn't think to ask for a first for Brannstrom!

 

[darude]

My read on the Miller trade is that Vancouver needed the guy out of their lockerroom bad enough they took a weak deal.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

brannchise on his 3rd team in 6 months

He's just that valuable an asset.

 

[NyQuil]

so basically Brannstrom (and two others) were traded for a 1st+ from NYR

Mrs_NyQuil was in bed so I came into the room to tell her about the "Brannstrom Trade".

"Who else was in the deal?"

"JT Miller."

"I'm turning the light on."

 

[StutzlingAway]

Does this man Pittsburgh is going for a firesale?

 

[Boud]

Does this man Pittsburgh is going for a firesale?

Yes. They’re too far out and played more games.

I like the move for Vancouver. They trade Miller but if Chytil can stay healthy and now they finally round out their defense… I think they’ll be better now than they were before moving Miller. O’Connor is a good bottom 6 guy too.

It’s a lot to give for a pending UFA but have to imagine they’ll sign him.



Two teams making that call to step back so far.. Penguins and Flyers

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Vancouver got a #2 d and 2 young top 9 talents for a guy that was killing their room.

they could have done a lot worse than that imo.

actually great trade

 

[Boud]

Vancouver got a #2 d and a young top 9 talent for a guy that was killing their room.

they could have done a lot worse than that imo.

I’m not sure who you’re refering to by top 9, Chytil or O’Connor, but both are good players. O’Connor is the type of guy we should add, he’s a sneaky add in this deal. The Nucks had to pay but I like how the deal ends up looking like going from Miller, cap dumps, and Ferntrom to Pettersson, Chytil, Mancini and O’Connor.

It feels like they did the right thing here and extracted some good value for a player who was a problem and only wanted to go to NY.

Nucks biggest flaw was their defense so with Pettersson and Mancini added I suspect they will be a better team overall. Not sure I’d call him a #2 but he’s a legit top 4 guy that’s really good in transition and these guys are very valuable.

+ No more locker room feud

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

I’m not sure who you’re refering to by top 9, Chytil or O’Connor, but both are good players. O’Connor is the tyoe of guy we should add, he’s a sneaky add in this deal. The Nucks had to pay but I like how the deal ends up looking like going from Miller, cap dumps, and Ferntrom to Pettersson, Chytil, Mancini and O’Connor.

It feels like they did the right thing here and extracted some good value for a player who was a problem and only wanted to go to NY.

Their biggest flaw was their defense m so with Pettersson and Mancini I suspect they will be a better team overall.

yea forgot they actually got two forwards in total which makes the trade even more beautiful.

agree about O'Connor, he's big fast and can score big goals by himself. prob will outplay a lot of the other forwards that are dealt this deadline.

3 potentially 4 core roster pieces for one malcontent.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

The problem with how some people on HF judge trades is they ignore the fact that teams have numerous stakeholders that they have to satisfy.

Yes, they are probably better off in the long run holding on to that 1st, especially with the kind of disarray the Rangers are in - but the GMs job is to execute the wishes of ownership or top management. Additionally, they have a franchise player who after this season is 2 years away from UFA status (sound familiar?). Missing the playoffs this year and next year virtually guarantees that Quinn Hughes probably leaves or at the very least doesn't extend early.

The got back a top pairing D, an iffy top 9 center, a top 9 forward, and an NHL ready #7 defenseman. If they can re-sign Pettersson, that's a decent outcome.

People would be more accepting if they never owned the first, but instead of Pettersson being part of the Miller return, now it's like they gave up McKenna for him to some people. (Which knowing Pittsburgh's luck, is probably the case, but that's not the point.0

Not to mention, they dumped two 2Mx2Y contracts that weren't working.

 

[Bileur]

Time to sell high on Oskar Pettersson.

Offer him to Vancouver for another first.

 

[GCK]

I really like the 2nd deal from Vancouver’s perspective.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

We have about 1 mil in cap space with everyone healthy and an 22 man roster, not taking into account any additional room we got from accumulating since that would be negligible due to the amount of time we were getting LTIR relief.

So, lets say JBD is traded (I suppose LTIR is also an option) and we send Ostapchuk or Gaudette down once everyone is healthy to bring us to a 20 man roster:

Tkachuk-Stu-Giroux
Greig-Pinto-Bath
Cousins-Norris-Perron
Gregor-Ostap/Gaud-Amadio

Sandy-Zub
Chabot-Jens
Kleven-Hammer

Ullmark
Forsberg

That leaves us with ~2.6 mil in space to add a 21st roster player
If we move out a player, be it Amadio, Cousins, or Ostapchuk it opens more space, lets assume Ostapchuk/Gaud is sent down, which would bring us to ~3.375 as a max for our target(s).

If we were to send out Forsberg in a trade with nothing coming back that would go up to ~5.3

Thanks.

That doesn't leave a lot of cap space. I could certainly see Forsberg as a player to be shipped out if they look to acquire a bigger contract.

With such little cap space that would essentially leave Pat Maroon, Craig Smith, Brett Leason and Mathieu Olivier from my list as trade options.

I guess there is also a chance that teams are willing to retain salary. They are only allowed three retainment slots per year correct? That would make it challenging for any player that isn't on an expiring contract. Brandon Tanev could still be an option then.

Alex Tuch, Anders Lee, Nick Foligno, Michael Bunting and Boone Jenner are forwards with only 1 year left and Jacob Trouba, Radko Gudas, Luke Schenn amie Oleksiak and Erik Gudbranson are d men with only 1 year left. Some of those teams might have a retainment slot available and there is also the option to involve a third team if they are willing to use one of their retainment slots as well.

The issue is probably the cap space though..

Here are the cap hits for the second list of players:
Alex Tuch $4.75m, Anders Lee $7m, Nick Foligno $4.5m, Michael Bunting $4.5m, Boone Jenner $3.75m, Jacob Trouba $8m, Radko Gudas $4m, Luke Schenn $2.75m, Jamie Oleksiak $4.6m, Erik Gudbranson $4m

 

[Golden_Jet]

Well half right, Sens didn’t claim him.

 

[starling]

Vancouver got 3 Petterssons. Now that's what I call asset management.

 

[Stutzlaaaa]

Thanks.

That doesn't leave a lot of cap space. I could certainly see Forsberg as a player to be shipped out if they look to acquire a bigger contract.

With such little cap space that would essentially leave Pat Maroon, Craig Smith, Brett Leason and Mathieu Olivier from my list as trade options.

I guess there is also a chance that teams are willing to retain salary. They are only allowed three retainment slots per year correct? That would make it challenging for any player that isn't on an expiring contract. Brandon Tanev could still be an option then.

Alex Tuch, Anders Lee, Nick Foligno, Michael Bunting and Boone Jenner are forwards with only 1 year left and Jacob Trouba, Radko Gudas, Luke Schenn amie Oleksiak and Erik Gudbranson are d men with only 1 year left. Some of those teams might have a retainment slot available and there is also the option to involve a third team if they are willing to use one of their retainment slots as well.

The issue is probably the cap space though..

Here are the cap hits for the second list of players:
Alex Tuch $4.75m, Anders Lee $7m, Nick Foligno $4.5m, Michael Bunting $4.5m, Boone Jenner $3.75m, Jacob Trouba $8m, Radko Gudas $4m, Luke Schenn $2.75m, Jamie Oleksiak $4.6m, Erik Gudbranson $4m

From that list the only fit I see is Tuch maybe Foligno ( if he can still skate). For D only Gudas is a fit . The rest are meh don't move the needle much. If they retain on Anders Lee might be good rental.
But obviously we need to create cap space by moving guys first.

 

[Big Muddy]

Thanks.

That doesn't leave a lot of cap space. I could certainly see Forsberg as a player to be shipped out if they look to acquire a bigger contract.

With such little cap space that would essentially leave Pat Maroon, Craig Smith, Brett Leason and Mathieu Olivier from my list as trade options.

I guess there is also a chance that teams are willing to retain salary. They are only allowed three retainment slots per year correct? That would make it challenging for any player that isn't on an expiring contract. Brandon Tanev could still be an option then.

Alex Tuch, Anders Lee, Nick Foligno, Michael Bunting and Boone Jenner are forwards with only 1 year left and Jacob Trouba, Radko Gudas, Luke Schenn amie Oleksiak and Erik Gudbranson are d men with only 1 year left. Some of those teams might have a retainment slot available and there is also the option to involve a third team if they are willing to use one of their retainment slots as well.

The issue is probably the cap space though..

Here are the cap hits for the second list of players:
Alex Tuch $4.75m, Anders Lee $7m, Nick Foligno $4.5m, Michael Bunting $4.5m, Boone Jenner $3.75m, Jacob Trouba $8m, Radko Gudas $4m, Luke Schenn $2.75m, Jamie Oleksiak $4.6m, Erik Gudbranson $4m

I’d think (guess) Buffalo will re-sign Tuch. They’ll have plenty of cap space next year and he’s a good player.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I really like the 2nd deal from Vancouver’s perspective.

Ya, they really needed to fix their D. It's been a big problem. Rolling out guys like Juulson, Brannstrom, Desharnais and other borderline AHL dmen just wasn't working out. And they needed to push Myers and/or Soucy down to hopefully get them being more effective again in a lesser role. Feels like they're all decently slotted now. Hopefully they can re-sign Petterson.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Granlund & Ceci to Dallas... we officially lost the Cec-stakes.

 

[GoSenatorsGo]

Friedman just doubled down on Weekes post about Garlund to Dallas, adding Ceci is going too. Gotta think the Miller trade opened the flood gates

 

[Golden_Jet]

Granlund & Ceci to Dallas... we officially lost the Cec-stakes.

Probably a NHL body to make up for Heiskanen.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Dallas trading for Ceci already lost the trade don’t even need to see what they are giving :p

 

[Emerica]

Granlund and Ceci for 1st and conditional 4th