Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

When everyone is healthy, I have zero issues with any spot right now. JBD has looked good next to Kleven and Hamonic is fine as a 7th. Perron we haven't gotten to really see yet, at least not while dealing with his current situation, so that is tbd, but I think it'll be fine.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

I don't think we need help at forward so long as Norris can remain healthy. We have a deep and versatile forward group. Could we add a veteran 4th liner or something at the deadline? Sure. But we don't need anything substantial.

We need a legitimate #5D. The way Hamonic is used, he is in that role, but I think most people here agree we would benefit from Hamonic slotting back into a more conservative role. By legitimate #5D, I mean a veteran bottom pairing defender who can take minutes with our top 4D when needed. A right hand would be ideal because both Chabot and Sanderson are lefties.

 

[Loach]

Let em cook.

 

[Beech]

Let em cook.

who have you set on fire?

 

[Qward]

Let em cook.

I abandoned my son!

 

[Keli]

What do you guys think of trying Pinto on the RW with Brady and Stu? Has he played wing before?

 

[bicboi64]

What do you guys think of trying Pinto on the RW with Brady and Stu? Has he played wing before?

I'd prefer Pinto as 3C with Perron and Amadio. Would have 3 solid scoring lines

 

[Cosmix]

I'd prefer Pinto as 3C with Perron and Amadio. Would have 3 solid scoring lines

I think the proposed Perron - Pinto - Amadio line would be a strong defensive-oriented line that can contribute some points and make a positive contribution to the GF/GF+GA stat, but not a high "scoring" line. Perron and Amadio are too slow and Pinto is not a high-scoring forward.

What do you guys think of trying Pinto on the RW with Brady and Stu? Has he played wing before?

I think he is better used as our 3C; however, I would be willing to try him there if we need some scoring. I think Gaudette might be a good RD on the first or second line as he is a goal scorer with decent speed.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I think the proposed Perron - Pinto - Amadio line would be a strong defensive-oriented line that can contribute some points and make a positive contribution to the GF/GF+GA stat, but not a high "scoring" line. Perron and Amadio are too slow and Pinto is not a high-scoring forward.

Pinto had 20 year before last, and 9 in 41 last year, so he's basically a 20 goal 3rd line center. That's pretty solid. Perron usually scores high teens to mid 20's, so not bad for a track record there either. Amadio has averaged over 18 goals per 82 gp the last 3 seasons as well.

They likely won't put that up this year, but those are good 3rd line player goal totals and 2 of the 3 have proven they can hit that 20 goal mark.

 

[Cosmix]

Giroux will likely go year to year. He’s not going to hold the team hostage. I’d expect around 5M if he has a good season.

He has earned multiple millions; I expect him to want $5M over 2 seasons rather than one season, assuming he still wants to play.

Given that he is from Ottawa, I see him wanting to stay here. Is his wife from Ottawa too? If yes, I think signing in Ottawa is a major benefit for him and his family.

Giroux will be 37 in January. Yes he's a point a game player this year but it's only been 11 games and in comparison a bunch of guys on the team are lighting it up. ( eg Gaudette is on pace to score 49 goals!
People are downplaying his dramatic lack of scoring in the second half of last season (24points) and believe that he will be a 65 points plus guy for the next 2 years to justify $5 million per over that time. I think his production and performance are going to drop off to the point where he's not worth more than $3 million per year.

Yes, Giroux is likely to start regressing at his age and its possible he will regress to a $3M level; however, I think he will still want to be well-paid at $5M per season.

 

[Cosmix]

I don't think we need help at forward so long as Norris can remain healthy. We have a deep and versatile forward group. Could we add a veteran 4th liner or something at the deadline? Sure. But we don't need anything substantial.

We need a legitimate #5D. The way Hamonic is used, he is in that role, but I think most people here agree we would benefit from Hamonic slotting back into a more conservative role. By legitimate #5D, I mean a veteran bottom pairing defender who can take minutes with our top 4D when needed. A right hand would be ideal because both Chabot and Sanderson are lefties.

Agreed. A one-year signing of a vet RD to play this season. Next season, I think Yak will be here as 3RD with JBD as #7. Hamonic will be gone.

 

[Cosmix]

Pinto had 20 year before last, and 9 in 41 last year, so he's basically a 20 goal 3rd line center. That's pretty solid. Perron usually scores high teens to mid 20's, so not bad for a track record there either. Amadio has averaged over 18 goals per 82 gp the last 3 seasons as well.

They likely won't put that up this year, but those are good 3rd line player goal totals and 2 of the 3 have proven they can hit that 20 goal mark.

I hope all 3 reach or exceed the 20 goals/season.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I hope all 3 reach or exceed the 20 goals/season.

Thaaaat I'm not betting on this year lol, especially with 2 of them having goose eggs 10 games in, just highlighting that all 3 at least do have a history of putting the puck in the net at a decent clip for a 3rd liner.

 

[HSF]

Looking at the roster, what do you see as the weakest points in their roster spot (don't worry about cap just performance)?

Perron as 2LW?
JBD as 3RD?

Hamonic is not an everyday nhl defensemen let alone playing on the top pairing

JBD and Kleven alone are okay but they struggle together when the going gets tough which makes sense due to their age...its a pairing that won't work consistently

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Let em cook.

They’re cooking alright

 

[TheNewEra]

if nashville does a retool/rebuild then nyquist would be interesting target. Works cap wise, he can skate well and he doesnt have a contract with term

Tkachuk-Stutzle-Nyquist
Giroux-Norris-Batherson
Perron-Pinto-Greig
Cousins/Gregor-Gaudette-Amadio

 

[bicboi64]

The Preds might be having a firesale/major retool happening.

Go acquire Fabbro or Carrier Staios, asap. Tell Hamonic he's being benched for the rest of the season or will sit in the pressbox unless he waives his NMC.

Don't let November sink us again.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Have a hard time seeing Nashville going with the rebuild option after just locking up Stamkos, Saros, Marchessault and Skjei for 28.24M for the next 4 years.

If they continue to suck they'll probably just trade a couple guys and try to run it back next year.

I'd like to buy low on Tomasino and Fabbro, two young guys who haven't gotten a fair shake for whatever reason, but I don't know what we'd have that the Preds would want in return.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Have a hard time seeing Nashville going with the rebuild option after just locking up Stamkos, Saros, Marchessault and Skjei for 28.24M for the next 4 years.

If they continue to suck they'll probably just trade a couple guys and try to run it back next year.

I'd like to buy low on Tomasino and Fabbro, two young guys who haven't gotten a fair shake for whatever reason, but I don't know what we'd have that the Preds would want in return.

I must say that after all the hoopla and even Trotz spoke openly about their location/tax advantages benefitting them this summer with all the signings, I am kind of enjoying it not working out for them.

 

[bicboi64]

Have a hard time seeing Nashville going with the rebuild option after just locking up Stamkos, Saros, Marchessault and Skjei for 28.24M for the next 4 years.

If they continue to suck they'll probably just trade a couple guys and try to run it back next year.

I'd like to buy low on Tomasino and Fabbro, two young guys who haven't gotten a fair shake for whatever reason, but I don't know what we'd have that the Preds would want in return.

If they were to rebuild, they'd be in a pretty good position. Josi and Forsberg are the only NMCs and could fetch them nice returns. They've got enough vets signed long term to insulate young players and they've got 3 first round picks this year.

Definitely agree on buying low on Fabbro though. We don't have too much trade capital, but can't be more than a 2nd or 3rd.

 

[Cosmix]

Have a hard time seeing Nashville going with the rebuild option after just locking up Stamkos, Saros, Marchessault and Skjei for 28.24M for the next 4 years.

If they continue to suck they'll probably just trade a couple guys and try to run it back next year.

I'd like to buy low on Tomasino and Fabbro, two young guys who haven't gotten a fair shake for whatever reason, but I don't know what we'd have that the Preds would want in return.

Draft picks

 

[GCK]

If they were to rebuild, they'd be in a pretty good position. Josi and Forsberg are the only NMCs and could fetch them nice returns. They've got enough vets signed long term to insulate young players and they've got 3 first round picks this year.

Definitely agree on buying low on Fabbro though. We don't have too much trade capital, but can't be more than a 2nd or 3rd.

I don’t think Fabbro is much of an upgrade on JBD, especially at triple the salary.