Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[2CHAINZ]

Zaitsev back in Russia.

 

[bicboi64]

I mean yeah.. HELL yeah! Sign me up.

But why does Philly do this?

Cuz Torts can bring out Boucher's inner beast and Briere thinks he can't move anyone else on the roster to make capspace for Zamula

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Cuz Torts can bring out Boucher's inner beast and Briere thinks he can't move anyone else on the roster to make capspace for Zamula

 

[Hale The Villain]

I mean yeah.. HELL yeah! Sign me up.

But why does Philly do this?

Because NHL GMs are dinosaurs and love to overpay for toughness.

I bet Boucher still has decent value around the league, even if he's a 4th liner at best.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Cuz Torts can bring out Boucher's inner beast and Briere thinks he can't move anyone else on the roster to make capspace for Zamula

They'll have plenty of cap space when Ellis is put on the LTIR.

If they trade Zamula it'll be because they have 12 forwards and 7 defensemen on 1 way contracts + Michkov and Forester, which gives them a full roster.

 

[Daffy]

Because NHL GMs are dinosaurs and love to overpay for toughness.

I bet Boucher still has decent value around the league, even if he's a 4th liner at best.

Toughness is a massive part or the game. If you don't have team toughness, you aren't winning the Cup.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Because NHL GMs are dinosaurs and love to overpay for toughness.

I bet Boucher still has decent value around the league, even if he's a 4th liner at best.

Honestly you might be right. From a Sens perspective I'd do that trade in a New York minute though.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Toughness is a massive part or the game. If you don't have team toughness, you aren't winning the Cup.

Doesn't mean trading a whole draft class for Jeannot, or even a 2nd+, is justified.

 

[Sens Vader]

Still hoping we can bring in Nick Cousins and a another d man for the bottom pair

 

[Maraz]

Guys I would like to know your opinion on some of the remaining UFAs that are either past their prime, had down year or dealt with some other off-ice issues (except Cousins) but are still interesting and can be signed for cheap.

Cousins - 31, C/LW, 69-7-8-15
Labanc - 28, RW, 46-2-7-9
Blais - 28, LW, 53-1-6-7
JvR - 35, LW, 71-11-27-38
Pitlick - 27, C/RW, 27-14-19-33 (AHL)

Ruhwedel - 34, RD, 52-1-3-4
Kylington - 27, LD, 33-3-5-8
Scandella - 34, LD, 65-2-6-8
Shattenkirk - 35, RD, 61-6-18-24
Addison - 24, RD, 72-1-16-17
Zboril - 27, LD, 46-0-13-13 (AHL)

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Still hoping we can bring in Nick Cousins and a another d man for the bottom pair

I'm not hoping. It's a necessity. At least if Ottawa wants to make the playoffs.

Kleven-JBD might not make some AHL team's top pair. They're not fit enough to be a regular bottom pair. We need someone experienced.

And that 4th line is atrocious. The NHL is about depth. We need it in spades and it starts with minimum another 4th line (on the higher end like Cousins) and a another bottom pair (on the higher end like Shatty).

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

Guys I would like to know your opinion on some of the remaining UFAs that are either past their prime, had down year or dealt with some other off-ice issues (except Cousins) but are still interesting and can be signed for cheap.

Cousins - 31, C/LW, 69-7-8-15
Labanc - 28, RW, 46-2-7-9
Blais - 28, LW, 53-1-6-7
JvR - 35, LW, 71-11-27-38
Pitlick - 27, C/RW, 27-14-19-33 (AHL)

Ruhwedel - 34, RD, 52-1-3-4
Kylington - 27, LD, 33-3-5-8
Scandella - 34, LD, 65-2-6-8
Shattenkirk - 35, RD, 61-6-18-24
Addison - 24, RD, 72-1-16-17
Zboril - 27, LD, 46-0-13-13 (AHL)

Can Shattenkirk still play? Hasn’t really been on my radar the past few years.

 

[Tuna99]

David Savard in Montreal would be a good target - Hab’s won’t trade him but the perfect bottom pairing guy for Kleven

 

[Big Muddy]

They'll have plenty of cap space when Ellis is put on the LTIR.

If they trade Zamula it'll be because they have 12 forwards and 7 defensemen on 1 way contracts + Michkov and Forester, which gives them a full roster.

Your right. When they put Ellis on LTIR, I believe (cursory glance at CapFriendly) they’ll have about $7 m of cap space and 21 players under contract. I doubt the Flyers would consider Zamula for Boucher. That seems like yet another far fetched dream scenario.

 

[Icelevel]

Can Shattenkirk still play? Hasn’t really been on my radar the past few years.

Looks like he had 24 pts in 61 games last year. Not sure how good he is defensively. Might not cut it

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

David Savard in Montreal would be a good target - Hab’s won’t trade him but the perfect bottom pairing guy for Kleven

Same guy I thought of as he was on some trade bait lists, but if doesn't seem realistic since they would likely want a decent haul for him and we also would need them to hold back cap.

 

[Bileur]

David Savard in Montreal would be a good target - Hab’s won’t trade him but the perfect bottom pairing guy for Kleven

That would put a ton of puck movement responsibility on Kleven and would be too expensive in any event.

 

[Senator Stanley]

I'm not hoping. It's a necessity. At least if Ottawa wants to make the playoffs.

Kleven-JBD might not make some AHL team's top pair. They're not fit enough to be a regular bottom pair. We need someone experienced.

And that 4th line is atrocious. The NHL is about depth. We need it in spades and it starts with minimum another 4th line (on the higher end like Cousins) and a another bottom pair (on the higher end like Shatty).

At this point, I'm expecting them to go with a veteran defenceman on a camp PTO, rather than signing a veteran to a contract. We already have one veteran anchor (Hamonic) we can't move, and I doubt they want to risk having another on a guaranteed contract.

My expectation is it'll be a camp battle for the 3rd RHD spot, with JBD, Hamonic, Guenette, Matinpolo and a veteran PTO in the mix. Of that group, I'm most curious to see how Matinpolo looks. He and Kleven were paired together last year, they led Belleville in plus-minus, and he brings good size and mobility.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Other teams are still sorting out their roster and cap.

I could see us getting a castoff that way. Maybe we have a target or two and we are waiting on a domino.

People think the Joseph trade was for Pinto, but we had the money for Pinto. I think it was to clear some cap so that we could acquire a D.

We legitimately do not have a #5 or #6 NHL defenseman. Kleven is still a tweener until proven otherwise, then we have a glut of players like JBD and Harmonic who are find as 7th-8th depth options, as in you don't want to see them play but if there are 2+ injuries you're happy to have JBD there.

We need another D.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Other teams are still sorting out their roster and cap.

I could see us getting a castoff that way. Maybe we have a target or two and we are waiting on a domino.

People think the Joseph trade was for Pinto, but we had the money for Pinto. I think it was to clear some cap so that we could acquire a D.

We legitimately do not have a #5 or #6 NHL defenseman. Kleven is still a tweener until proven otherwise, then we have a glut of players like JBD and Harmonic who are find as 7th-8th depth options, as in you don't want to see them play but if there are 2+ injuries you're happy to have JBD there.

We need another D.

We're also going to be pretty early on the waiver claim wire to start the season. Maybe Staios will wait to see if something shakes loose there.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1809249296925241649

 

[operasen]

Recreated the PIZZA line and placing his order?
I'll bet his phone has been pretty busy these last weeks.

PS Thanks for your comments and vids from Camp. Keep us in the loop.

 

[Blotto71]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1809249296925241649

"Hello? Gabriel? I hear there is a Senator GM special?..."

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

We're also going to be pretty early on the waiver claim wire to start the season. Maybe Staios will wait to see if something shakes loose there.

That's true, but I don't think you can really depend on that for anything other than patch work. Like how the Ducks claimed Lassi from us because they had injuries.

I think they need a legitimate veteran #5 D who is a known quantity and ideally on an expiring contract. It's not going to be a David Savard or an option people are super excited about.

Ideally, they would add two veteran defenseman to get depth and force Kleven or whoever else to have to fight for their spot.

If Edmonton is willing to bundle a pick to dump Ceci, maybe we could do a deal where we send that pick to a 3rd party for some retention. Pittsburgh is a team who wants to accrue picks to re-tool with. Something like Edmonton sends Ceci+3rd to Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh retains on Ceci and sends him to us for JBD.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1809249296925241649

"Pierre, for the last time, you're not supposed to be at dev camp."

 

[Hale The Villain]

Other teams are still sorting out their roster and cap.

I could see us getting a castoff that way. Maybe we have a target or two and we are waiting on a domino.

People think the Joseph trade was for Pinto, but we had the money for Pinto. I think it was to clear some cap so that we could acquire a D.

We legitimately do not have a #5 or #6 NHL defenseman. Kleven is still a tweener until proven otherwise, then we have a glut of players like JBD and Harmonic who are find as 7th-8th depth options, as in you don't want to see them play but if there are 2+ injuries you're happy to have JBD there.

We need another D.

I think we may need to wait until after training camp and hit up the waiver wire. Not much left out there.

Not sure why we didn't sign Fleury for some cheap depth. Was decent in Tampa in a limited role, has spent time playing both sides, and didn't even get a 1-way contract.