Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[Big Muddy]

We arn't getting Trouba or Zadorov. We have to build our own. Gotta get that Solberg kid.

Trouba (from Michigan) pushed his way out of Winnipeg & will have a 15 team No Trade List this year.

You see some people throwing out rosters with 3 new, good defenders on it. We’d need to corner the market for this to happen and might as well say let's get McDavid & Draisaitl while we're at it.

Fantasy & dreams are fun though I suppose.

 

[LiseL]

No Karlsson??

I do like Larsson though. Steady, size, some physicality. Would fit in well I think.

Would prefer to grab one of the RD in UFA, but if prices are too high a trade may be in order.

Let's not forget Anton Forsberg, another Swede. Brannstrom too but I expect he won't be here next year.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

f*** it, offer Matt Roy 7 mil if the Tanev plan falls through. Probably won’t beat out Detroit but go for it.

 

[PlayOn]

Winnipeg reporter says Ottawa, SJ and Columbus are some of the teams interested in McGroarty.

Article is speculating, but discusses Chychrun and Chabot as possible trade pieces.

Edit: actually, I think it’s moreso Chabot, he was linking Chychrun to Ehlers. It’s interesting regardless because we don’t really have much to offer outside of that.

Rutger McGroarty trade destinations: What could the Jets get back?

McGroarty has garnered interest from several teams and could be moved before the draft begins Friday.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Ouroboros]

Winnipeg reporter says Ottawa, SJ and Columbus are some of the teams interested in McGroarty.

Article is speculating, but discusses Chychrun and Chabot as possible trade pieces.

Edit: actually, I think it’s moreso Chabot, he was linking Chychrun to Ehlers. It’s interesting regardless because we don’t really have much to offer outside of that.

Rutger McGroarty trade destinations: What could the Jets get back?

McGroarty has garnered interest from several teams and could be moved before the draft begins Friday.

www.nytimes.com

Hard to come up with a deal that makes sense. They obviously won't trade McGroarty for one year of Chychrun, and the 7th OA is probably a little too high.

Maybe if they added a little something. McGroarty and Barron for 7th maybe?

 

[Ouroboros]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806118701831266713

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Hard to come up with a deal that makes sense. They obviously won't trade McGroarty for one year of Chychrun, and the 7th OA is probably a little too high.

Maybe if they added a little something. McGroarty and Barron for 7th maybe?

Chabot makes more sense for them because of his term. Similar to the discussion about Chabot going to Utah, Winnipeg has a difficult time attracting players. 4 years of term provides them a lot of stability. Ottawa could possibly take back Nate Schmidt to help offset some of the short term cap. Nate Schmidt would be a cap dump, he is no longer an impact player.

If the Senators make the deal to move down to 12, that would be a more appropriate pick to trade for McGroarty, but even that seems high given the context of the situation. I don't think the Jets are going to recoup a similar level of pick that they used on him because they are dealing from a position of weakness.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806118701831266713

I wonder if we see the Bruins turn around and dump Korpisalo if they can somehow do it for something like a 2nd and another plus. The logic being, they basically traded Ullmark+(cost to dump Korpisalo) for 25th overall when they had no other way to get a 1st for Ullmark.

 

[PlayOn]

Chabot makes more sense for them because of his term. Similar to the discussion about Chabot going to Utah, Winnipeg has a difficult time attracting players. 4 years of term provides them a lot of stability. Ottawa could possibly take back Nate Schmidt to help offset some of the short term cap. Nate Schmidt would be a cap dump, he is no longer an impact player.

If the Senators make the deal to move down to 12, that would be a more appropriate pick to trade for McGroarty, but even that seems high given the context of the situation. I don't think the Jets are going to recoup a similar level of pick that they used on him because they are dealing from a position of weakness.

It’s hard to imagine what the Sens will do if they move Chabot and Chychrun.

They’d for sure have to buyout Schmidt because we don’t have enough cap to pay him 6 million to play on our third pairing. But all that being said it’s hard enough finding a top 4 RD, in a world where Chabot gets traded I think a similar defenceman needs to be coming back.

 

[bacon25]

Winnipeg reporter says Ottawa, SJ and Columbus are some of the teams interested in McGroarty.

Article is speculating, but discusses Chychrun and Chabot as possible trade pieces.

Edit: actually, I think it’s moreso Chabot, he was linking Chychrun to Ehlers. It’s interesting regardless because we don’t really have much to offer outside of that.

Rutger McGroarty trade destinations: What could the Jets get back?

McGroarty has garnered interest from several teams and could be moved before the draft begins Friday.

www.nytimes.com

Ehlers would be a fantastic pick up

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806118701831266713

The Rights to Lafferty aren't worth a ton, mikheyev is far too expensive for only a 2nd rounder. Would be nice to make a run at Lafferty though.

 

[Ouroboros]

Chabot makes more sense for them because of his term. Similar to the discussion about Chabot going to Utah, Winnipeg has a difficult time attracting players. 4 years of term provides them a lot of stability. Ottawa could possibly take back Nate Schmidt to help offset some of the short term cap. Nate Schmidt would be a cap dump, he is no longer an impact player.

If the Senators make the deal to move down to 12, that would be a more appropriate pick to trade for McGroarty, but even that seems high given the context of the situation. I don't think the Jets are going to recoup a similar level of pick that they used on him because they are dealing from a position of weakness.

I'm willing to take Staios at his word and believe that he isn't discussing trades involving Chabot.

I agree it would make sense after a trade down, but Friedman recently made it sound like whatever was cooking between Ottawa and Philly is dead now. Sounds like Michkov coming over sooner than expected may have changed their plans.

The Rights to Lafferty aren't worth a ton, mikheyev is far too expensive for only a 2nd rounder. Would be nice to make a run at Lafferty though.

I would expect they'll get him signed, much like they did with Foligno and Perry last year.

Bottom-six options starting to dry up. Blueger re-upped in Vancouver too.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Winnipeg reporter says Ottawa, SJ and Columbus are some of the teams interested in McGroarty.

Article is speculating, but discusses Chychrun and Chabot as possible trade pieces.

Edit: actually, I think it’s moreso Chabot, he was linking Chychrun to Ehlers. It’s interesting regardless because we don’t really have much to offer outside of that.

Rutger McGroarty trade destinations: What could the Jets get back?

McGroarty has garnered interest from several teams and could be moved before the draft begins Friday.

www.nytimes.com

Do we even know if Rutger would sign with us? Is he one of those “I only want to play for the Rangers” guys?

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

I'm willing to take Staios at his word and believe that he isn't discussing trades involving Chabot.

I agree it would make sense after a trade down, but Friedman recently made it sound like whatever was cooking between Ottawa and Philly is dead now. Sounds like Michkov coming over sooner than expected may have changed their plans.


I would expect they'll get him signed, much like they did with Foligno and Perry last year.

Bottom-six options starting to dry up. Blueger re-upped in Vancouver too.

I agree about Staios and Chabot, but if McGroarty was on the table and the Senators value him close to a top 10 pick, that changes the situation. That turns it into more of a give to get scenario, than shopping any one player.

 

[PlayOn]

Do we even know if Rutger would sign with us? Is he one of those “I only want to play for the Rangers” guys?

Don’t think that’s the issue here, he essentially just wants a guaranteed roster spot and Winnipeg wouldn’t give him one. Plus half our team is young Americans, he probably knows a bunch of guys.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

The Rights to Lafferty aren't worth a ton, mikheyev is far too expensive for only a 2nd rounder. Would be nice to make a run at Lafferty though.

I think the logic with taking Mikheyev for only a 2nd is that he is still a player, just overpaid. I think the Walman trade follows a similar logic. These are players who can contribute on rebuilding teams. The rebuilding teams cannot attract free agents without overpaying anyways. For Mikheyev, it isn't a 2nd round pick to take 9.5M of dead cap - it's a 2nd round pick and maybe 4M of dead cap because Mikheyev might be a 2M-3M type player, not a 5M player.

 

[SENStastic]

Ehlers would be a fantastic pick up

Indeed, he would fit nicely on our LTIR along side Norris

 

[jake1]

The best thing about Rutger M. is his name. I don't think he's that great.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Don’t think that’s the issue here, he essentially just wants a guaranteed roster spot and Winnipeg wouldn’t give him one. Plus half our team is young Americans, he probably knows a bunch of guys.

He wants that from Winnipeg because of their deployment of other prospects. I think he would be more flexible elsewhere. The fact that they wouldnt sign him to play a game just to burn a year off of his ELC probably annoyed him enough.

I think the logic with taking Mikheyev for only a 2nd is that he is still a player, just overpaid. I think the Walman trade follows a similar logic. These are players who can contribute on rebuilding teams. The rebuilding teams cannot attract free agents without overpaying anyways. For Mikheyev, it isn't a 2nd round pick to take 9.5M of dead cap - it's a 2nd round pick and maybe 4M of dead cap because Mikheyev might be a 2M-3M type player, not a 5M player.

Mikheyev can be a $4.5m player, especially in Chicago. He had a really tough ACL injury and really struggled to get back up to speed, but he wouldnt be the first guy to need some time. He was a very useful middle 6er in 21-22 & 22-23 (pre-injury). Vancouver cant afford to roll the dice… Chicago can. Wouldnt surprise me at all to see him flipped for a 3rd or more at the 25-26 deadline.

 

[Senator Stanley]

Hard to come up with a deal that makes sense. They obviously won't trade McGroarty for one year of Chychrun, and the 7th OA is probably a little too high.

Maybe if they added a little something. McGroarty and Barron for 7th maybe?

7OA should be off limits in any conversations with Winnipeg, but something built around Chychrun for McGroarty would be intriguing. He'd help the team a lot sooner than a return of picks.

Maybe Winnipeg could sell Chychrun on finally playing for a playoff team...

 

[JaredCowen4Norris]

OTT:
Chabot
(Maybe add Joseph if they want a Crouse replacement)

UTA:
Crouse
JJ Moser
+ Pick or Prospect

Might be one of the few chances we have to move Chabot without retention to a team that views his contract as a positive. Clear up some cap space, get a heavy LW, and younger depth 2/3LD.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

OTT:
Chabot
(Maybe add Joseph if they want a Crouse replacement)

UTA:
Crouse
JJ Moser
+ Pick or Prospect

Might be one of the few chances we have to move Chabot without retention to a team that views his contract as a positive. Clear up some cap space, get a heavy LW, and younger depth 2/3LD.

Thats a ton of value coming our way.

 

[Ouroboros]

7OA should be off limits in any conversations with Winnipeg, but something built around Chychrun for McGroarty would be intriguing. He'd help the team a lot sooner than a return of picks.

Maybe Winnipeg could sell Chychrun on finally playing for a playoff team...

I think you'd need Pierre Dorion to be the GM in Winnipeg to get that sort of deal.

 

[Senator Stanley]

I think you'd need Pierre Dorion to be the GM in Winnipeg to get that sort of deal.

It's our turn, dammit.

 

[Senscore]

I think it's a good sign that Staios is kicking the tires on any situation where another GM is dealing from a position of weakness.