Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[Wallet Inspector]

Seravalli indicated Chabot might be on the trade block when he mentioned Detroit's D options. It is Frank though and he's been off for a while.

Edit: Staios just denied it.

Good.

When he's on his game, Chabot is our best defenseman, and he looked good in most games under Martin's coaching.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Good.

When he's on his game, Chabot is our best defenseman, and he looked good in most games under Martin's coaching.

The guy has spent most of his NHL career anchored by Zaitsev and Hamonic. We loved him when he played with Demelo a few years ago, and he looked good when playing with Zub the last couple years. Would hate to see him flourish elsewhere.

 

[Big Muddy]

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Then a draft pick or prospect to Seattle for Tanev w/ 1.25M retained (or Seattle taking Forsberg).

How mad would you guys be out of car commercials?

Didn’t I read today that Staois isn’t buying out any player?

Regardless, I don’t think a buy out would be necessary if the Senators want to move Joseph.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Buying out Hamonic and signing De Haan is absolutely a better move.

 

[aragorn]

Hamonic RD only played 48 games last season & was clearly injured for a good portion of the season. He is a yr removed from a 21 pt season & plays the hard nosed game Staois seems to want. He's also in the last yr of a cheap $1.1 mil contract & should be able to mentor both Kleven & JBD who I expect he will share that 3rd pairing RD spot. They will also have a few RD in Belleville that can be called up when needed.

Adding Tanev RD to play with Sanderson frees up Zub to play with Chabot which should improve the top 4 dramatically.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Unfortunately just 20 games of Hamonic is way too harmful to our season. He just needs to be off this team, period. He's arguably the worst player in the league (not exaggerating).

He'll be less harmful if the team around him is better. A part of the reason he looks as bad as he does is he's a poor defenseman on a team that's bad defensively.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

I would imagine that Hamonic gets traded as part of the return for a depth d. For example, if the Sens acquire Luke Schenn then Hamonic would be part of the package going the other way to offset the cap. He may have a no movement clause but they can tell him that he simply won't play if he decides to veto a trade.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I would imagine that Hamonic gets traded as part of the return for a depth d. For example, if the Sens acquire Luke Schenn then Hamonic would be part of the package going the other way to offset the cap. He may have a no movement clause but they can tell him that he simply won't play if he decides to veto a trade.

That would be terrible PR. The second that happens every player in the NHL will know about it.

 

[Big Muddy]

"Insiders" having a very tough time with the new regime lately.

Agreed. There haven’t been any leaks and these guys are tight-lipped and play their cards close to the vest. The speculation was off the charts and incorrect on the Ullmark situation if anyone needed another example of this.

 

[Senscore]

That would be terrible PR. The second that happens every player in the NHL will know about it.

The Rangers just flim flammed Barclay Goodrow and nobody cares.

 

[Blotto71]

The Rangers just flim flammed Barclay Goodrow and nobody cares.

I think we can all agree that attracting players to Ottawa is different from attracting players to the New York Rangers.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

The Rangers just flim flammed Barclay Goodrow and nobody cares.

Nothing is ever going to stop New York from being a desired destination for players. Ottawa circumventing an NMC by basically coercing a player to waive it could absolutely do damage to Ottawa when it comes to future signings.

 

[Micklebot]

Generally throughout the season there’s injuries and even someone who’s a 7th D will get playing time. Imo a ~150k surplus against the cap is worth having an upgrade at that slot.

Generally your replacement level Dman doesn't have a full NMC so he'd be sent down if you had a better option, we aren't talking about generally though, we are talking about a unique situation where you have 1 year left of a guy with a full NMC on a deal so cheap buying him out and replacing him with a near league min contract actually costs more.

Buying him out has us spending more money for longer than simply playing a callup ahead of him every time there is an injury.

An upgrade on Hamonic isn't an upgrade on the ice, it's an upgrade to the press box. Wasted money.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Maybe I am being over dramatic. But I don’t think this team can be competitive with Chabot on the roster.

He plays 5 good games. Gets injured . Comes back. Plays like shit for 10 games . Finds his game plays good for 5 games gets injured….

You get like maybe 15-20 games a year where he looks like a top 4 D. His 8m could be way better used. I rather keep Chychrun.

 

[Senscore]

Nothing is ever going to stop New York from being a desired destination for players. Ottawa circumventing an NMC by basically coercing a player to waive it could absolutely do damage to Ottawa when it comes to future signings.

I don't think it's circumventing at all. He's free to exercise his right to veto any movement.

It's a more than fair ultimatum given how much money this team has given him for subpar performance.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

That would be terrible PR. The second that happens every player in the NHL will know about it.

It wouldn't be terrible PR. Hamonic is a player at the tail end of his career. He is fortunate enough to have a decent salary and a no movement clause in his contract for next season as he wouldn't get anything like that on the open market. The senators are obligated to pay him his salary and respect his rights of his no movement clause. They are under no obligation whatsoever to play him in the lineup.

If Hamonic is on the Sens roster next season there is a very good chance that he will barely play anyway. If the Sens have a trade lined up they can offer him the chance to waive his NMC and maybe play with that other organization. If he doesn't want to waive it then he can go back to simply not playing. They aren't coercing him into waiving his NMC.

 

[Senator Stanley]

Maybe I am being over dramatic. But I don’t think this team can be competitive with Chabot on the roster.

He plays 5 good games. Gets injured . Comes back. Plays like shit for 10 games . Finds his game plays good for 5 games gets injured….

You get like maybe 15-20 games a year where he looks like a top 4 D. His 8m could be way better used. I rather keep Chychrun.

Sounds like the Josh Norris of defenceman.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I would imagine that Hamonic gets traded as part of the return for a depth d. For example, if the Sens acquire Luke Schenn then Hamonic would be part of the package going the other way to offset the cap. He may have a no movement clause but they can tell him that he simply won't play if he decides to veto a trade.

Not seeing hammer waive his NMC, since he only wanted to play in Ottawa.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Chris Johnston saying that NY might be looking to get rid of a dman.

Speculates about Trouba because they have Fox and Schneider playing RD and his $8M cap hit is a luxury on the 3rd pair.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

Overpay a bit for the FA RHD if you have to and sell chych for futures. Restock the cupboard instead of trading assets away all the time.

Would be nice to say #assetmanagement in relation to the Senators without being sarcastic for once.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Chris Johnston saying that NY might be looking to get rid of a dman.

Speculates about Trouba because they have Fox and Schneider playing RD and his $8M cap hit is a luxury on the 3rd pair.

I'd be trying to get rid of Trouba too.

 

[Senscore]

Chris Johnston saying that NY might be looking to get rid of a dman.

Speculates about Trouba because they have Fox and Schneider playing RD and his $8M cap hit is a luxury on the 3rd pair.

I'd love an asshole like Trouba on the team but not at that salary.

 

[Sens Vader]

I’d take Trouba, he’s an asshole

 

[Gil Gunderson]

What's TJ Brodie's injury status? He's a lefty but has played on the right side for his entire career. Could be an underrated UFA signing if he's healthy.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

I'd love an asshole like Trouba on the team but not at that salary.

You have to pay for ass.