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[Micklebot]

Yes, I do agree on that (bolded) point. And, thanks for clarifying!

One thing in terms of a little more detail on the advanced stats is that I have mentioned a few weeks ago that our advanced stats have regressed. I’m thinking the October stats look better than the November stats. I don’t think the idea that the advanced stats could regress got a huge amount of attention.

Hmm... Idk about that. 5v5 fancy stats at least look almost universally better in Nov. The big difference is we aren't scoring on the chances we create at the same rate as we were in Oct,

Month​

GP​

Points​

Point %​

CF%​

SF/60​

SA/60​

SF%​

GF/60​

GA/60​

GF%​

xGF/60​

xGA/60​

xGF%​

SCF/60​

SCA/60​

SCF%​

HDCF/60​

HDCA/60​

HDCF%​

October​

9​

10​

0.556​

49.31​

31.34​

27.89​

52.91​

2.76​

2.9​

48.78​

2.37​

2.46​

49.05​

24.57​

28.02​

46.72​

8.14​

10.77​

43.07​

November​

14​

11​

0.393​

54.57​

29.56​

25.95​

53.26​

1.95​

2.78​

41.18​

2.32​

2.08​

52.63​

28.26​

25.58​

52.5​

9.08​

8.9​

50.52​

The other big factor is the PP went from 17.5GF/60 to about 7.3

 

[Big Muddy]

Hmm... Idk about that. 5v5 fancy stats at least look almost universally better in Nov. The big difference is we aren't scoring on the chances we create at the same rate as we were in Oct,

Month​

GP​

Points​

Point %​

CF%​

SF/60​

SA/60​

SF%​

GF/60​

GA/60​

GF%​

xGF/60​

xGA/60​

xGF%​

SCF/60​

SCA/60​

SCF%​

HDCF/60​

HDCA/60​

HDCF%​

October​

9​

10​

0.556​

49.31​

31.34​

27.89​

52.91​

2.76​

2.9​

48.78​

2.37​

2.46​

49.05​

24.57​

28.02​

46.72​

8.14​

10.77​

43.07​

November​

14​

11​

0.393​

54.57​

29.56​

25.95​

53.26​

1.95​

2.78​

41.18​

2.32​

2.08​

52.63​

28.26​

25.58​

52.5​

9.08​

8.9​

50.52​

The other big factor is the PP went from 17.5GF/60 to about 7.3

Ya, I didn’t do a deep dive. What did the all situation stats look like? You devote more time to this than I do (I’m often too lazy admittedly).

Interesting that the correlation between improved advanced stats and scoring hasn’t materialized. If the “expected” stats behave the way they are supposed to (a future indicator) then we should see some improvement.

 

[Dionysus]

Wrong thread.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Titles don't matter in the NHL. What matters is who is actually in control. Usually control and responsibility is delegated completely differently from team to team, regardless of whether their executives have the same title. One GM might be running the show, while another GM might be a sounding board for the POHO who makes the real choices.

I think the reason that he was brought in as POHO was because Dorion was already GM and they took over the team at the worst possible time near the end of the offseason. Whether they had more nefarious reasons for keeping Dorion, like they wanted to use him as a scapegoat if/when his build failed, or they valued him, or they simply weren't ready from a day-to-day perspective to replace the management team, who knows.

I guess what I am getting at is that he probably does the same job regardless of what he is called. So being called both POHO and GM doesn't matter. He could be called the Emperor of Kanata and his role is still the same.

So the guy spent a billion dollars on an NHL franchise and didn't have a plan for the key executive positions in the organization beyond "my buddy Steve won with me in the OHL"??? Come on. When are you guys going to stop with this nonsense?

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

So the guy spent a billion dollars on an NHL franchise and didn't have a plan for the key executive positions in the organization beyond "my buddy Steve won with me in the OHL"??? Come on. When are you guys going to stop with this nonsense?

I don't know how you got that from my post.