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GCK

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if you only rely on the stat sheet to be able to tell who is playing well you definitely can't.
If your eyes don’t show you that Brady is in the process of changing his game to what Green wants then I could understand your point. This team is still thinking, it takes time to play instinctive and reactive, at least 20 games and much more for other players.
 
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If your eyes don’t show you that Brady is in the process of changing his game to what Green wants then I could understand your point. This team is still thinking, it takes time to play instinctive and reactive, at least 20 games and much more for other players.
Poster doesn’t know hockey, just looks at hockeydb for players, and has an agenda.
 

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Lol they aren't trading Brady, especially not for a futures package. Basically signaling to the rest of the group they're throwing in the towel for now and they can all start picking their next destinations.
 

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Funny how MacTavich having 3 pts in 8 games, and he's struggling out of the gate but will be fine (I'm sure he will be), meanwhile people are complaining about Brady struggling to the point that their coming up with trade proposals, yet he's got 11 pts in 8 games... what does Brady look like when his game is on if this is Brady having a rough start...

I'm not that worried about Brady, as I'm 98% sure he's playing through an injury, but that said I have no idea how he's racked up 11 points in 8 games given how poorly he's played.

Lot of invisible assists in there where he didn't contribute much to the goal I reckon.
 

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If your eyes don’t show you that Brady is in the process of changing his game to what Green wants then I could understand your point. This team is still thinking, it takes time to play instinctive and reactive, at least 20 games and much more for other players.

naw Brady is actually backchecking and putting in a basic level of defensive effort compared to last few seasons. less cheating for breakways too, it used to be comical how much he would cheat.

defensive impact still needs a lot of work. hopefully Green and Alfredsson are able to teach him.

the real thing is consistency though. I held Spezza, Alfredsson, Karlsson, Stone to the same standard but when you apply it to Brady you're just a hater.

But he wears the C and is paid north of 8 mill.

We had higher standards, the players had high standards, and the fans had high standards, now it's like some hand holding shit.
 

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If we don't make it to the playoffs this season it wasn't because of DBC, Joseph, Chychrun or Korpisalo that the club has a loser identity.
 

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naw Brady is actually backchecking and putting in a basic level of defensive effort compared to last few seasons. less cheating for breakways too, it used to be comical how much he would cheat.

defensive impact still needs a lot of work. hopefully Green and Alfredsson are able to teach him.

the real thing is consistency though. I held Spezza, Alfredsson, Karlsson, Stone to the same standard but when you apply it to Brady you're just a hater.

But he wears the C and is paid north of 8 mill.

We had higher standards, the players had high standards, and the fans had high standards, now it's like some hand holding shit.
Bingo. It’s a process and he seems to be trying, just going to take time.
 

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I'm not that worried about Brady, as I'm 98% sure he's playing through an injury, but that said I have no idea how he's racked up 11 points in 8 games given how poorly he's played.

Lot of invisible assists in there where he didn't contribute much to the goal I reckon.
Ya him leaving and coming back twice in the Kraft hockeyville pre-season game, sealed it for me. He has a shoulder injury, just don’t recall which shoulder he was favouring.

Different note:
Also recall Gord Miller pointing out in the game, when Chabby was behind the offensive net, that Brady was back covering the point.
 

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I'm not that worried about Brady, as I'm 98% sure he's playing through an injury, but that said I have no idea how he's racked up 11 points in 8 games given how poorly he's played.

Lot of invisible assists in there where he didn't contribute much to the goal I reckon.
He’s been good offensively, but there are a few chincy assists.

One last night where Chabot’s 2nd assist got given to Brady because it looks like the puck nips his skate in front.

Brady will be fine, needs to shore up his game, but definitely not worried about him at all.
 

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I'm not that worried about Brady, as I'm 98% sure he's playing through an injury, but that said I have no idea how he's racked up 11 points in 8 games given how poorly he's played.

Lot of invisible assists in there where he didn't contribute much to the goal I reckon.
I agree. I think he is injured and it is shoulder related. He is hopefully playing through something that will resolve itself and not require prolong rest or surgery. There was that weird play(can't remember the game), when he was favoring his arm. It didn't look right.
 

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I agree. I think he is injured and it is shoulder related. He is hopefully playing through something that will resolve itself and not require prolong rest or surgery. There was that weird play(can't remember the game), when he was favoring his arm. It didn't look right.
See my post, a few posts up.
 
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Karlsson ain’t ever gonna change.

Tkatchuk and stutzle vibes.

His Norris season convinced me that he has selective motivation. He can turn it up 110 percent when he has something to motivate him, but trapped by his unmovable contract on a rebuilding team he slacks. When he won that Norris, I'm sure the implication sold to him was that if you want us to be able to move you to a contender, you have to be elite again, and he may have really wanted to go.

Trading for him would not be the right move, but if this entire team falls apart it would at least be a sound marketing ploy. Additionally, maybe Alfredsson knows how to motivate him.

In NHL 25 I re-acquired Karlsson at the tail end of his career and convinced him that if he wanted to stay in the NHL he has to reinvent himself as a hard nosed grinding right winger. He took to it very well and had one more season before finishing out his career in the AHL.
 

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we're missing a Connors, Ehlers, Nylander, Marner

people will call them soft perimeter players but those teams are good in large part because of these guys.
 

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His Norris season convinced me that he has selective motivation. He can turn it up 110 percent when he has something to motivate him, but trapped by his unmovable contract on a rebuilding team he slacks. When he won that Norris, I'm sure the implication sold to him was that if you want us to be able to move you to a contender, you have to be elite again, and he may have really wanted to go.

Trading for him would not be the right move, but if this entire team falls apart it would at least be a sound marketing ploy. Additionally, maybe Alfredsson knows how to motivate him.

In NHL 25 I re-acquired Karlsson at the tail end of his career and convinced him that if he wanted to stay in the NHL he has to reinvent himself as a hard nosed grinding right winger. He took to it very well and had one more season before finishing out his career in the AHL.
Even in that season he was dogging it defensively. Just everything he did ended up in the other teams net
 

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Nah, I watched a lot of Pitts games this season. Karlsson doesn't give a flying f. He's been horrendous in large parts in that he doesn't care at all. If he wanted to, he'd be the best D yet again.
 

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Men in their 20s lose motivation once their bank account hits 8-digits?

I am shocked i tell you.
 

Agent Zuuuub

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Karlsson just can't skate as efficiently anymore, I mean he's missing his OG ankle bones.

Like even that video that was posted it wasn't a lack of effort, homie just can't pivot.

It's compounded by Penguins being the slowest team in the league. So all of Crosby, Malkin, Karlsson, Letang have to have good skating games or the team is toast.

Contrast that to Giroux, like the guy is slow but since he's surrounded by young fast players he never really has skate really hard all the time. He can be selective.

Penguins stars should each be on a young team where they can be complimentary stars to young legs who carry the team. Instead of being all together and being asked to carry the team.

They will probably blow it up this tdl, and it will be interesting whether they trade Crosby. Like I can't imagine Crosby would be very happy finishing his career by only winning every two games, with no hope of playoffs, even if it's on the Penguins.
 

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Funny how MacTavich having 3 pts in 8 games, and he's struggling out of the gate but will be fine (I'm sure he will be), meanwhile people are complaining about Brady struggling to the point that their coming up with trade proposals, yet he's got 11 pts in 8 games... what does Brady look like when his game is on if this is Brady having a rough start...
I wouldn't trade Brady for the sake of trading him. The only scenario I bring it up in is if there are signs he'll request a trade once his NMC kicks in on July 1st. If the Sens don't make the playoffs this year, is the idea that far-fetched?
 

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I wouldn't trade Brady for the sake of trading him. The only scenario I bring it up in is if there are signs he'll request a trade once his NMC kicks in on July 1st. If the Sens don't make the playoffs this year, is the idea that far-fetched?

its as dumb as Flames turning on M .Tkachuk thinking he was part of the problem. People forget the stuff that happened with M Tkachuk for him to want out of the flames. One being the team not having his back when he flipped on Muzzin and instead asking him to tone his game down
 
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people keying in on Karlsson but that Pens team is terrible. Way to old for some of those guys to be carrying the team and zero talented depth.

Karlsson would be fine on a better team. His cap hit is just to high
 
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people keying in on Karlsson but that Pens team is terrible. Way to old for some of those guys to be carrying the team and zero talented depth.

Karlsson would be fine on a better team. His cap hit is just to high

I could see Karlsson with salary retention to Montreal for Josh Anderson and some sort of conditional picks.

I don't think there would be a market for Karlsson at all, even half-retained. He has a NMC, and I assume he only waives for a contender, or for somewhere geographically close to his home in Ottawa.

Vegas, Dallas, Florida, etc aren't trading for him.

He doesn't fit what we're going for. Although, I could see the logic in going after him in the summer if we miss the playoffs again and Brady gets moved. That would be more of a marketing pickup to try and get season seat holders excited after another letdown than an on ice one.

It'll be something like Karlsson (4.5M retained) for Josh Anderson, a 3rd, and a D-prospect, with a bunch of conditions tied to the third that might make it a 2nd, and people will moan that Karlsson should have gone for more.
 

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its as dumb as Flames turning on M .Tkachuk thinking he was part of the problem. People forget the stuff that happened with M Tkachuk for him to want out of the flames. One being the team not having his back when he flipped on Muzzin and instead asking him to tone his game down

too many people equate Brady and Matthew as the same.

lots over here even prefer Brady to Matthew. wack
 

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