Yeah not sure how many times a number 1 center has moved over to wing in their prime.
You’re assuming he’s good there and also wants to play there long term
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I'm not making moves based on what Greig 'wants' other than the fact that I'm pretty sure he wants to win a cup. If that means the team needs your service on the wing than you're moving to the wing. He has no say until he is UFA and by the time he is UFA it's safe to say our C situation will have changed.
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Duschene would be one example.
He's been good on the wing when we've played him there, and what he wants is less important than what makes us better.
Well then odds are he will a DEFInITELY be asking for a trade because the odds of us are winning are incredibly low. Canadian team hasn’ t won in 30 + years
I don’t think he has been. Now he’s very young. So he can definitely improve.
Duchene? In Colorado? Where he was infamously disgruntled?
if Greig does blow up then don’t know if we can even afford him and pinto
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Likely just watching the game a few hours up the road/hour in the air and on a night off
There were so many people there because the game was in Toronto and every other team had the night off
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Was Duchene disgruntled because he was playing wing or because they were losing?
Giroux was listed as a winger until he was 25, then started playing wing again in Philly at 29.
Centers playing wing isn't as uncommon as you are suggesting.
If Greig does blow up and we can't afford him, deal with it then, his value will be higher and we'll get more for him.
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lol at pushing the trade Greig agenda
I said number 1 centers moving over to wing in their prime is not common. Because I was responding to a post that implied we can have all 4 of stutzle moves over to wing.
Right. So. If he blows up. Will have to deal one. Likely.
If he doesn’t blow up. We got a ok to good maybe winger slash center. And might not be worth much in a trade.
Which is what brings me to my point now. Now I’m maybe in veeerrrry wrong and his value is not that high around the league (I do think that maybe we the fans like Greig way more than the rest of the league does)
But. Swapping Greig in the next couple seasons for a solid young d man to replace chabot in the next couple years…. It’s. A play
Discussion board premise is sometimes lost on some.
Also these are random 20 something year old dudes. I think it’s okay that we discuss the possibility of one of them perhaps not skating around on ice in our home city anymore.
It’s not an agenda. It’s an idea. An idea that is kind of likely to play itself out? Just look at the makeup of our team? 1 of stutzle Greig Norris or pinto will be traded or lost to FA.
If Greig explodes. Then it’s almost GUaRENTEED one of them will be moved.
Unless he becomes a legit top 6 winger and giroux money can pay for Greig.
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For Cap relief they can always Trade Chabot in 2-3 years once Yakemchuk, Kleven and JBD are fully broken in and ready for full time success
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1. Greig is currently a utility player that can play anywhere in the top 9. He will fill in at C and will play some 4C.
2. He expressed a preference to C because that has been his position coming up. (pre his one game on wing this year) He is not a prima donna that is going to make it an issue.
3. He is a good, young, two-way player that plays with an edge
4. He can be played in multiple roles
5. Giroux and Perron will be moving and Greig's role will only increase
Show us how he runs out of runway and how it looks like its inevitable that he'd be moved or Pinto will be moved .. something you've recently added
IMO those 2 guys will be here a long time
Trading chabot toughest move on the roster. In a couple years tho may be easier you’re right.
And there are other ways to get a good defensman rather than trading Greig or pinto.
Ostapchuk and Halliday arent going to just jump into a 3C role and be as good as Pinto. Also Greig is much more injury prone and does not play a two way game like Pinto...yet
Ask me again in 2 years
Also Greig fits the identity we are trying to build it seems being a fast physical team
if we need cap relief then say bye bye to Giroux and Perron.
Yes, and I am discussing it. Do you think a discussion board is just an echo chamber to reinforce your thoughts?
C depth is a hallmark of successful teams, in addition to solid D and goaltending. I am not sure that even the end of the year is a good time to take a step back in our C depth. I don't see any reasonable way that any of our lower tier C will step in and be as effective as we believe Pinto can be.
Guys that can play W or C are valuable to a team, but not necessarily on the trade front.
In general, I am a fan of rounding out the team, but we won't know what we need for another year or 2, IMO.
Stamkos for 1. I’d try it out considering it seems he hasn’t won a faceoff since the WJC
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ya the sens who have some serious injury prone centers and have been at the bottom of the league should be trading away centres when they are all finally playing together
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When you're taking about trading Pinto, you have to consider that Norris is injury prone until proven otherwise, and Giroux is nearing retirement and declining as a top 6 forward.
You trade Pinto and there could very well be a scenario where the team loses all 3 of those players.
I would be more open to trading Greig than Pinto, but I understand people who like what Greig brings in terms of being a pest with a harder edge who can score.
In terms of Pinto's money, it's not an issue, he can be taken to arbitration after this contract, so they don't have to go 8x8, and they don't have to worry about him refusing to sign. Our window with this core if Brady stays is the next 3-4 years. Which is not to say that we can't compete for longer, but that's the approx. time frame before a large amount of the cost controlled contracts end and players have the option to walk.
You trade Pinto and there could very well be a scenario where the team loses all 3 of those players.
I would be more open to trading Greig than Pinto, but I understand people who like what Greig brings in terms of being a pest with a harder edge who can score.
In terms of Pinto's money, it's not an issue, he can be taken to arbitration after this contract, so they don't have to go 8x8, and they don't have to worry about him refusing to sign. Our window with this core if Brady stays is the next 3-4 years. Which is not to say that we can't compete for longer, but that's the approx. time frame before a large amount of the cost controlled contracts end and players have the option to walk.
Greig is super injury prone for the style he plays. Lets see if he can continue to play a physical brand of hockey with his body
Giroux did not go to win in his prime he went to the wing in his 30s. Before that it was a lot of years going head to head with Crosby
Greig is a perfect fit as a guy who should ideally be a winger when everyone is healthy, but can step in if Norris gets injured again.
Don't see any reason to consider trading him, unless some team is willing to overpay big time.
Don't see any reason to consider trading him, unless some team is willing to overpay big time.
No, you expressed how dumb an idea it was and just ran on with your opinion. Now you are discussing it, but still not without tossing around insults.
I certainly did not expect an "echo chamber" and actually asked if the mere idea was just crazy. As has been fairly pointed out, the end of this year is likely to early to know exactly what we have, and the question might better be revisited at the end of the 2025-26 season.
Hope that offends your sensabilities you big meanie!
