Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals - 2025/26 Part II

[GoodinOsgoode]

Saw this the other day:



Imagine trading 3 players all in their mid 20s with a combined 165 points in 166 games and having nothing left to show for it 7 years later.

Disasterclass in GMing.

I actually thought that we did really well (at the time at least) on the Dzingel trade, getting Duclair + two 2nd round picks. Better return it seemed to me than Duchene or Stone.

On that note, I really liked Duclair the year (2019-20) that we had him.
We were not very good in those days and he was often our best forward on the ice (imho).

 

[GoodinOsgoode]

We can do that next year. This summer our first round pick is 32, we don't have a second or fourth from Dorion. Next draft and everything going forward will be 100% Staios and his group.

Then it's officially just the small matter of the buyout of Colin White and the retained cost of Korpisalo.
Both will be off the books by end of the 2027-28 season.

That Dorion sure leaves a lasting impression!

 

[Hale The Villain]

I actually thought that we did really well (at the time at least) on the Dzingel trade, getting Duclair + two 2nd round picks. Better return it seemed to me than Duchene or Stone.

On that note, I really liked Duclair the year (2019-20) that we had him.
We were not very good in those days and he was often our best forward on the ice (imho).

That trade was solid, it's wasting the two picks (and 10-20 million dollars) on Matt Murray and Derek Stepan that squandered the return.

 

[Cosmix]

Yup, it was just one gut punch after another.

JBD + Tychonik could have been K'Andre Miller.

Dorion was truly awful! DJ too!

 

[GoodinOsgoode]

That trade was solid, it's wasting the two picks (and 10-20 million dollars) on Matt Murray and Derek Stepan that squandered the return.

 

[stempniaksen]

Just go and OS Dorofyev for 5 x $9.55 for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. We get the pure sniper we've been looking for and get to hurt Vegas in the process which is a nice bonus. Doesn't leave a ton of room to do anything but bring the rest of the gang back and sign a backup G but if all 3 phases can play well at the same time that would be a real dangerous team on paper.

I know Vegas would find a way to send Hertl to the moon and match, just let me live in my pipedream for a minute.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Cossa could be on the move shortly, possibly to Edmonton

Doubt Yzerman would want to trade him within the division, but I'd take a shot at him for the backup role behind Ullmark next season.

We're talking about a 6'7 goalie who has a SV% of:

.921, .941 and .913 in his 3 CHL seasons
.913 in his first pro season in the ECHL
.913, .911 and .915 in his last 3 seasons in the AHL

Been remarkably consistent at every level, but the Wings refused to give him an opportunity to play and are going to trade him for far less than his draft position (15th OVR) after developing him for 5 years.

Could be like trading for Ben Bishop back in 2012.

 

[Loach]

Then it's officially just the small matter of the buyout of Colin White and the retained cost of Korpisalo.
Both will be off the books by end of the 2027-28 season.

That Dorion sure leaves a lasting impression!

Jfc.....Dorion just won't piss off.

 

[Loach]

That trade was solid, it's wasting the two picks (and 10-20 million dollars) on Matt Murray and Derek Stepan that squandered the return.

...and then letting Duclair walk and then spending more picks to dump Murray.

 

[BigRig4]

JBD + Tychonik could have been K'Andre Miller.

Dorion was truly awful! DJ too!

Did not know this, and you just ruined my day

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Just go and OS Dorofyev for 5 x $9.55 for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. We get the pure sniper we've been looking for and get to hurt Vegas in the process which is a nice bonus. Doesn't leave a ton of room to do anything but bring the rest of the gang back and sign a backup G but if all 3 phases can play well at the same time that would be a real dangerous team on paper.

I know Vegas would find a way to send Hertl to the moon and match, just let me live in my pipedream for a minute.

I like Dorofeyev . He can score but Ottawa lacks play makers .. guys with vision that can hold on to the puck and make plays.

Vegas has Stone, Eichel and Marner we have no one in that class of playmaker.

These six NHL playmakers rank as follows: 1. Mitch Marner, 2. Jack Eichel, 3. Mark Stone, 4. Tim Stützle, 5. Drake Batherson, 6. Jake Sanderson. This order is based on their assist-generating abilities, overall playmaking vision, and status as elite offensive drivers. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
A detailed breakdown of their playmaking profiles:

1. Mitch Marner (RW, Vegas Golden Knights): Marner is an elite, top-tier playmaker in the NHL. He is a brilliant passer who consistently drives the offense and elevates the play of his linemates. With a high assist-per-game pace throughout his career, his vision and hockey IQ place him at the top of this list. [1, 2, 3, 4]
2. Jack Eichel (C, Vegas Golden Knights): Eichel is a dynamic, high-volume center with incredible skating and playmaking abilities. He acts as the primary offensive engine for his team, distributing the puck at an elite rate while commanding heavy minutes. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
3. Mark Stone (RW, Vegas Golden Knights): Stone is more of a cerebral, two-way playmaker rather than a high-end speedster. He excels at puck possession, steals, and making highly intelligent passes to open teammates in the offensive zone. [1, 2, 3, 4]
4. Tim Stützle (LW/C, Ottawa Senators): Stützle is an explosive, creative offensive player. He is the primary driver of the Ottawa Senators power play and is capable of dazzling, high-danger passes, though he can occasionally suffer from inconsistency. [1, 2, 3, 4]
5. Drake Batherson (RW/C, Ottawa Senators): Batherson is a very capable, reliable offensive winger who puts up solid assist numbers, particularly on the power play. While he might not control the pace of the game like the top three players on this list, he remains a consistent point producer. [1, 2, 3, 4]
6. Jake Sanderson (D, Ottawa Senators): Sanderson is a highly skilled two-way defenseman. While his primary value lies in his excellent skating, defensive play, and logging massive minutes, he still contributes nicely as a puck-moving defenseman on the backend. [1]

I think Dorofeyev's effectiveness drops some on the Sens with fewer players that can get him the puck in good spots consistently

 

[BigRig4]

Bruce says Faulk and Parayko both wouldn't waive their NTC's for us at the deadline

 

[Boud]

Bruce says Faulk and Parayko both wouldn't waive their NTC's for us at the deadline

Not very surprising for Parayko since he wouldn’t waive for Buffalo. Teams in a similar spot geographically and the teams are in a similar position on the ice (I.E. improving and relatively young).

Faulk would’ve been a decent target but not at that price tag.

And to be honest it’s way funnier to see Detroit trade a 1st and a 3rd for him only to miss the playoffs and now have their captain request a trade lmao.

Trading a 15th overall pick for a 34 year old defensemen who has a year left on his deal is way too steep for us. That trade turned out ridiculously well for St-Louis.

 

[Ouroboros]

Bruce also says "Kyrou doesn't make any sense".

Top-six winger: A league executive told the Ottawa Citizen last week that the Senators are in the market for a forward who can play with top centre Tim Stutzle and captain Brady Tkachuk. The proviso? The Senators don’t have many assets and aren’t willing to give up a lot in return. Names mentioned include Jordan Kyrou (St. Louis Blues) and Mason McTavish (Anaheim Ducks). Kyrou doesn’t make sense, but we’re told McTavish is a realistic target.

Doesn't sound like they're serious about adding here.

 

[Senator Stanley]

Bruce also says "Kyrou doesn't make any sense".


Doesn't sound like they're serious about adding here.

I take that to mean he doesn’t make sense at the price St. Louis is asking. And based on what’s been speculated about their asking price, I’m fine with that.

 

[PlayOn]

Bruce also says "Kyrou doesn't make any sense".


Doesn't sound like they're serious about adding here.

This was the best part:

There are scenarios in all three cases where the answers come from within because the core of this group is being kept in place.

Lars Eller 2.0 here we come!

 

[Ouroboros]

I take that to mean he doesn’t make sense at the price St. Louis is asking. And based on what’s been speculated about their asking price, I’m fine with that.

Teams are not going to give you a prime age scorer on a fairly reasonable contract for nothing, and I don't expect that what they're offering [probably a package of Zetterlund and Hensler] is going to buy them much of anything on the trade market. Just seems so unappealing.

Either they're serious about adding up front or they're not, and I get the sense that they aren't.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Bruce also says "Kyrou doesn't make any sense".


Doesn't sound like they're serious about adding here.

Kyrou makes plenty of sense, but he's the opposite player type they typically go after, so maybe that's why Garrioch is throwing a wet blanket over the idea.

 

[PlayOn]

 

[Ouroboros]

This was the best part:

There are scenarios in all three cases where the answers come from within because the core of this group is being kept in place.

Lars Eller 2.0 here we come!

People got big mad at me a week or so ago when I suggested that all Staios would do this summer is sign some mid-30's plug and sell it as a huge addition. Obviously they'll add a backup goalie, but all those guys are pretty much the same so it hardly matters.

I'm feeling Jaden Schwartz. 'Only a year removed from scoring 26 goals, he'll probably hit 35 on Stutzle's wing'.

 

[Hale The Villain]

People got big mad at me a week or so ago when I suggested that all Staios would do this summer is sign some mid-30's plug and sell it as a huge addition. Obviously they'll add a backup goalie, but all those guys are pretty much the same so it hardly matters.

I'm feeling Jaden Schwartz. 'Only a year removed from scoring 26 goals, he'll probably hit 35 on Stutzle's wing'.

It's probably going to be the same as last season.

We acquired Zetterlund at the deadline as both a rental + an acquisition for the following season, and we did the same thing at the 25/26 deadline with Foegele, so he'll be our main forward acquisition.

Once we re-sign Giroux and Cousins we'll have 12 NHL quality forwards + 6 NHL quality D, so I'm not sure why people would be expecting something significant to happen.

I'm sure he'll look at adding a top 6 forward by offering a guy like Zetterlund+ but with how pathetically weak the UFA class is, there will be a ton of interest in players like McTavish, so it's difficult to see the Sens bidding the most given how little we have to trade.

I'm perfectly fine staying the course. Would be a much better strategy than going all-in for Brady's last season in Ottawa or trading Spence to overpay for a bigger tougher worse RD.

 

[Senator Stanley]

Teams are not going to give you a prime age scorer on a fairly reasonable contract for nothing, and I don't expect that what they're offering [probably a package of Zetterlund and Hensler] is going to buy them much of anything on the trade market. Just seems so unappealing.

Either they're serious about adding up front or they're not, and I get the sense that they aren't.

I am skeptical when a team asks the moon for a player who they are, at best, ambivalent about. Buyer beware.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Kyrou makes plenty of sense, but he's the opposite player type they typically go after, so maybe that's why Garrioch is throwing a wet blanket over the idea.

yah Garrioch's opinion on what makes sense or not carries little weight he's just pumping out a column

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Teams are not going to give you a prime age scorer on a fairly reasonable contract for nothing, and I don't expect that what they're offering [probably a package of Zetterlund and Hensler] is going to buy them much of anything on the trade market. Just seems so unappealing.

Either they're serious about adding up front or they're not, and I get the sense that they aren't.

Still bothers me that they assumed that Zetterlund would fill a top 6 spot and they paid him 4.25 x 3 years before proving himself here...and they tried to play him with Stutzle before he worked his way down to the 4th line. He has a good shot and he works hard while accomplishing little up and down the ice.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

yah Garrioch's opinion on what makes sense or not carries little weight he's just pumping out a column

Ya, why are we still treating Brucie like he's gospel on their plans. He's very hit or miss since the new regime took over.

I'm not buying it. I get that everyone was beat down by PD's incompetence, but SS is a smart guy and he knows what this team needs. He may strike out, but he's not gonna be like PD and roll out some non solution like Kubalik or Schwartz and talk up some bs lies as if all fans are too stupid to see through it. It may not be a ppg 25 y/o winger like we'd prefer, but I dont think itll be some washed useless scrub sold as a solution while needing to be waived 30 games in.