GDT: Free Agency Day - 7/13 @ 12pm EST

[GoAwayPanarin]

MTL was pretty bad with discussions with the second overall, I don't mind Miller as a Devils fan but I'd love to aim higher + younger to fit with this core better. Severson+ for Nylander would be my thinking especially with the Leafs being linked to Severson multiple times in the past. Hopefully Devils-Rangers games could actually be fun again like 2012, but an awful decade so far lol. One of us ends up being bad every season since.

LOL.

Those pluses would have to be substantial.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

LOL.

Those pluses would have to be substantial.

Severson at 50% is 2.08M with the Leafs capped out to sign Sandin + Engvall lol. I'm obviously on a rivals boards so I obviously know I'm gonna catch flack for that suggestion but NJ would obviously the ones adding with Nylander on a good deal and virtually a PPG forward lol. But the suggestion for Bratt + Severson + first for Miller was utterly stupid.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Severson at 50% is 2.08M with the Leafs capped out to sign Sandin + Engvall lol. I'm obviously on a rivals boards so I obviously know I'm gonna catch flack for that suggestion but NJ would obviously the ones adding with Nylander on a good deal and virtually a PPG forward lol. But the suggestion for Bratt + Severson + first for Miller was utterly stupid.

So you follow it up with an equally silly idea?

I mean as far as devil fans go, you’re alright but come on man lol.

 

[Ola]

The only bad year is 26-27.

With a Goodrow buyout, Kakko 2 year bridge deal at $2.4M AAV and the $1M cap increase, the Rangers have nearly $23M in space for 23-24. $22,940,476. $83,500,000 cap in 23-24.

But with the caveat that we only have 10 players under contract, so it’s just 2.2m per player. Of the 10 dressed players we need replace/resign, the following group are RFAs:
KAM
Laf
Chytil
Kravy

And the following group are depth players:
Goodrow (bought out)
Blais
Reeves
Hunt
Carpenter
Halak

If all of Goodrow, Blais, Reeves, Hunt, Carpenter and Halak are resigned or replaced with max 1m player, we can afford to give KAM a long term deal.

Chytil and Kravy both have arbitration rights. Unless they stink really badly, we can’t afford to keep them. If either of them breaks out we can’t keep them.

I love a ton of things Drury have done, but we have zero margins going forward.

 

[NYR94]

Is that really the deal?

Not good. Pens got much better today. They upgraded Marino to Petry and shed Matheson who's terrible and addition by subtraction. Three goals in the series against us went in off his skate due to terrible positioning.

Petry has trade protections so Montreal's options were limited. Hughes said Montreal could still make more trades to shed additional salary.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

So you follow it up with an equally silly idea?

I mean as far as devil fans go, you’re alright but come on man lol.

I mean, idk how that's silly lol. It's dependent on how much Sandin + Engvall are asking. If they're asking for a lot, a Holtz + Severson 50% for Nylander + Holl wouldn't make sense for Toronto? You're getting the better RD at the same price as Justin Holl, mind you, have Matthews and Marner with an elite sniper prospect while your RHD would be Brodie, Severson, Sandin now that you have the money for him.

 

[Circus86]

I think rather than buying out Goodrow we should try to move him next offseason. He has a 15 team no trade? I mean he had a good season. He has value.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I mean, idk how that's silly lol. It's dependent on how much Sandin + Engvall are asking. If they're asking for a lot, a Holtz + Severson 50% for Nylander + Holl wouldn't make sense for Toronto? You're getting the better RD + have Matthews and Marner with an elite sniper prospect while your RHD would be Brodie, Severson, Sandin now that you have the money for him.

It’s really silly. You’re not getting him for a heavily flawed UFA to be and a prospect.

It would be easily topped by someone else’s.

They’re looking to move sandin anyway. Guarantee they’ll flip kerfoot out of town at some point to clear space before giving up Nylander for that much.

 

[Ola]

From my POV, there are three ways for Drury to create any kind of additional space before June 30, 2024.

1. We can trade Shestyorkin.
2. We can trade K’Andre Miller.
3. We can buy out Jacob Trouba.

(1) We are not trading Fox. Some will say that we won’t trade Shesty, and of course in all liklihood we won’t, but there is at least a theoretical argument that can be made that we could replace Shesty by a cheaper goalie who might be good enough while Shesty of course would return a prime young asset on an ELC. Ie it could potentially be a good move. But barely worth the space to discuss, it’s not happening.

(2) KAM is coming of his next contract without arbitration rights. He can sign what he is offered, or hold out. If a player without arbitration rights are presented a somewhat non offensive amount on a 5-6 year deal, they often sign it. KAM at a 5-6 year deal at 6m would be a huge steal, and it’s hard to see how that could be upgraded through trade for an ELC.

(3) If we buy out Trouba in 2023 we save 5.7m next season and 3.7m in 24’ and 25’. After that follows 3 years of 2.2m in dead space.

If we BO him in 2024, we save 4m two years in a row and then 2m in dead space for 2 years.

Everyone else have NMCs and can’t be traded. Kreider, Ziba and Panarin can’t be bought out, no savings basically.

-> If one of the kids besides KAM breaks out really badly or KAM even exceeds expectations there is only one thing Drury can do from my POV, that is to buy out Trouba.

 

[Ola]

I think rather than buying out Goodrow we should try to move him next offseason. He has a 15 team no trade? I mean he had a good season. He has value.

Of course, but GMs in this league aren’t in the habit of helping each other out, and in this case we can’t retain anything. Just saying, I wouldn’t count on that we can trade Goodrow.

 

[Ola]

From my POV, it’s very likely that Chytil only has one more year in NY, at least so long as he doesn’t totally stink this up coming season.

Like let’s say he has a half decent year, what would he get in arbitration? Copp got 3.6m with like 40 in 60. Vrana got 5.2m. Bertuzzi got 3.5m. Buch and Compter got paid along those lines too.

We can in all likelihood not afford 3-3.5m for Chytil even if we buy out Goodrow and bridge Laf and Kravy. If we want to give either of those two a longer contract, we can’t afford him period. If Chytil breaks out next season and scores like 60 pts, we cant afford him period, We can afford Chytil if he is a 2m player, but then he sucked a lot this year.

If we are to deal Chytil next summer, I don’t mind if it reflects his usage this season. Both Laf and Kakko would really benefit from a center that can push the Ds back and get them the puck. Trochek is a good fit for them. Trochek will of course do well next to Panarin as well — but we as a team could at the bottom line do better from Trochek lifting Laf and Kakko and Panarin boosting Chytil.

Teams will always be looking for a good young center. If Chytil plays with Panarin and gets 50-60 pts he would return a lot for us next summer. We are talking about a 5-15 pick or a really good prospect.

Ultimately, next season will of course not be about maximizing the return for Chytil. But it’s something to think about.

Comparing these top 9s, there are pros and cons with both:
Kreider-Ziba-Kravy
Panarin-Trochek-Hunt/Blais/Goodrow
Laf-Chytil-Kakko

Vs

Kreider-Ziba-Kravy
Laf-Trochek-Kakko
Panarin-Chytil-Hunt/Blais/Goodrow

 

[Ola]

I think Zac Jones is a underrated prospect around this organization. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if he walks away with a spot either out of camp or at least come Christmas. Hajak and Jones (including perhaps Nils) takes turn at LD for a few months. Which pairing will play the best for us? I think Jones’ pairing will.

Jones is another RFA next summer. He could also be in for a bit of a raise. I wouldn’t at all be surprise if Jones played really good hockey for us this season. Jones has always been better than Ty Smith. He doesn’t have the pedigree, but he is a very good young player.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I think Zac Jones is a underrated prospect around this organization. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if he walks away with a spot either out of camp or at least come Christmas. Hajak and Jones (including perhaps Nils) takes turn at LD for a few months. Which pairing will play the best for us? I think Jones’ pairing will.

Jones is another RFA next summer. He could also be in for a bit of a raise. I wouldn’t at all be surprise if Jones played really good hockey for us this season. Jones has always been better than Ty Smith. He doesn’t have the pedigree, but he is a very good young player.

It’s Jones spot to lose IMO

Hopefully he takes Trouba off the PP. Give him third pair minutes and PP2 time from day 1 and he’s going to be a board favorite by the time we hit New Years.

 

[Crease]

It’ll be interesting what they do with the third pair. Jones and Lundkvist are ready, but there’s only one open spot. And that pair. Schneider and a rookie? Or do they break up the top four?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

It’ll be interesting what they do with the third pair. Schneider and a rookie? Or do they break up the top four?

That’s basically what Lindgren and Fox were when they broke into the league.

 

[Tob]

all these positive player cards moved from PIT and negative player cards going to PIT, Sullivan can manage his defense well. we'll see what the Pens can make out of Ty Smith. I'm very curious about which Ty Smith, rookie or sophomore is the real slim shady and whether Poeheling and Smith can excel if they play under Sully this year or the next. We'll be able to tell immediately though how Morino does in NJ playing under Ruff.

 

[bbny]

From my POV, there are three ways for Drury to create any kind of additional space before June 30, 2024.

1. We can trade Shestyorkin.
2. We can trade K’Andre Miller.
3. We can buy out Jacob Trouba.

(1) We are not trading Fox. Some will say that we won’t trade Shesty, and of course in all liklihood we won’t, but there is at least a theoretical argument that can be made that we could replace Shesty by a cheaper goalie who might be good enough while Shesty of course would return a prime young asset on an ELC. Ie it could potentially be a good move. But barely worth the space to discuss, it’s not happening.

(2) KAM is coming of his next contract without arbitration rights. He can sign what he is offered, or hold out. If a player without arbitration rights are presented a somewhat non offensive amount on a 5-6 year deal, they often sign it. KAM at a 5-6 year deal at 6m would be a huge steal, and it’s hard to see how that could be upgraded through trade for an ELC.

(3) If we buy out Trouba in 2023 we save 5.7m next season and 3.7m in 24’ and 25’. After that follows 3 years of 2.2m in dead space.

If we BO him in 2024, we save 4m two years in a row and then 2m in dead space for 2 years.

Everyone else have NMCs and can’t be traded. Kreider, Ziba and Panarin can’t be bought out, no savings basically.

-> If one of the kids besides KAM breaks out really badly or KAM even exceeds expectations there is only one thing Drury can do from my POV, that is to buy out Trouba.

I’m thinking something between Lindgren (3x3) and Sergachev (2nd contract, 4.8x3) for Miller. $4M x 3. Something like that.

I originally wanted to sign Lafreniere and Miller both longer term. That’s out with the Trocheck signing, but I think they should still be able to do long term for one of them. I’d pick Lafreniere.

 

[egelband]

Letang isn't really dirty. He's been the recipient of many dirty hits over the years if anything. Malkin OTOH is a dirtbag, but he's really all they got in that regard.

I have no doubt that they'll be in the playoffs, but they'll be one and done again, especially if Jarry is healthy enough to play.

Even malkin isn’t that dirty. He’s opportunistic and big but he’s not running around looking for headshots.
I think the pens are a Frankenstein monster. I guess their coach could bring it together but really they don’t look so hot to me.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

From my POV, there are three ways for Drury to create any kind of additional space before June 30, 2024.

1. We can trade Shestyorkin.
2. We can trade K’Andre Miller.
3. We can buy out Jacob Trouba.

(1) We are not trading Fox. Some will say that we won’t trade Shesty, and of course in all liklihood we won’t, but there is at least a theoretical argument that can be made that we could replace Shesty by a cheaper goalie who might be good enough while Shesty of course would return a prime young asset on an ELC. Ie it could potentially be a good move. But barely worth the space to discuss, it’s not happening.

(2) KAM is coming of his next contract without arbitration rights. He can sign what he is offered, or hold out. If a player without arbitration rights are presented a somewhat non offensive amount on a 5-6 year deal, they often sign it. KAM at a 5-6 year deal at 6m would be a huge steal, and it’s hard to see how that could be upgraded through trade for an ELC.

(3) If we buy out Trouba in 2023 we save 5.7m next season and 3.7m in 24’ and 25’. After that follows 3 years of 2.2m in dead space.

If we BO him in 2024, we save 4m two years in a row and then 2m in dead space for 2 years.

Everyone else have NMCs and can’t be traded. Kreider, Ziba and Panarin can’t be bought out, no savings basically.

-> If one of the kids besides KAM breaks out really badly or KAM even exceeds expectations there is only one thing Drury can do from my POV, that is to buy out Trouba.

Where are the trade Kreider and or Trouba options here?

Those two are going to be the first two out the door when the time comes to move salary. I know everyone has the warm and fuzzies about Kreider after his season but he’s first to go on my list when the time comes.

 

[RangersFan1994]

he must really wanted to play for the Panthers. No way that was the best offer.

 

[egelband]

The only bad year is 26-27.

With a Goodrow buyout, Kakko 2 year bridge deal at $2.4M AAV and the $1M cap increase, the Rangers have nearly $23M in space for 23-24. $22,940,476. $83,500,000 cap in 23-24.

If they wouldn’t buy out Nemeth I assume they won’t be buying out goodrow.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I don't think a Trouba buyout will be necessary. I know he has a NMC for 1 more year after this year but if he knows the Rangers are looking to move him would he really force them to wait another year instead of working with them to go somewhere he wants?

 

[Tob]

I don't think a Trouba buyout will be necessary. I know he has a NMC for 1 more year after this year but if he knows the Rangers are looking to move him would he really force them to wait another year instead of working with them to go somewhere he wants?

We know JD likes him, we know they just paid a huge premium for a tough guy like Gudbranson. They're gonna need to get better still. Columbus has the best medical care facilities in the world for his wife. Trouba to CBJ for a pick and a prospect in a few years.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I don't think a Trouba buyout will be necessary. I know he has a NMC for 1 more year after this year but if he knows the Rangers are looking to move him would he really force them to wait another year instead of working with them to go somewhere he wants?

Yet another player I was right about. You guys better enjoy my posts while you can, it's only a matter of time before I get poached for an NHL GM job. Man will it ever be satisfying when Kravtsov turns out to be the greatest athlete in the history of professional sports.

 

[Ola]

Where are the trade Kreider and or Trouba options here?

Those two are going to be the first two out the door when the time comes to move salary. I know everyone has the warm and fuzzies about Kreider after his season but he’s first to go on my list when the time comes.

They have NMCs running up to July 1, 2024.