GDT: Free Agency Day 1: You're from Boston? Come on down

[OnMyOwn]

2 years? wtf did harkins do to get 2 years? Haha.

 

[SEALBound]

Absolutely laughing that the Blues traded a 2nd to get out of Hayes' deal just to trade for Faksa.

That money will go to Harley.

Also taking on Joseph as well.

That money will go to Pinto.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

St Louis getting paid to take Mathieu Joseph.

We out here signing Anthony Beauvillier...



Mathieu Joseph is a good player. Hayes is not.

Pittsburgh getting paid to take Hayes.

Anaheim out here signing Harkins for two years...

 

[Gurglesons]

St. Louis is getting paid a pick to take POJ’s brother. We should have been all over that one. I would have taken him for free no pick attached if need be.

Too busy signing hungry youth like Anthony Beauvillier lol.

Pittsburgh getting paid to take Hayes.

Anaheim out here signing Harkins for two years...

Cope. Mathieu Joseph is the exact type of player teams pony up for at the deadline.

Anthony Beauvillier is exactly the type of player Kyle Dubas can't move.

 

[SomeDude]

Lol St. Louis pays a 2nd to get out of Hayes just to get paid to take on Joseph. What are they doing

Potentially being smarter than us. If they recoup their 2nd by taking in a cheaper, younger, better player they can flip again in a year that’s a no brainer move.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

St Louis getting paid to take Mathieu Joseph.

We out here signing Anthony Beauvillier...



Mathieu Joseph is a good player. Hayes is not.

For a 2nd I would have taken him.

Holy smokes. I know GMs commonly trade with certain GMs though. But damn Ottawa reach out

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807922414682267842

Thank God

Watch him somehow score 20 goals next season.

Sullivan would be like:

 

[SEALBound]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808201631634182552

Interesting. Not who I had on my radar. Was a bottom pairing guy in NY. Could be a decent bottom pairng guy here.

Little crowded down there with Shea and JSI and now Gryz and Aho in the mix.

 

[OnMyOwn]

Beauvillier got moved twice in the same year. I’d say history shows he can be moved.

 

[canadianguy77]

I have a sneaking suspicion Sullivan is stuck on those Islanders playoff losses from like 5 years ago.

 

[SomeDude]

I have a sneaking suspicion Sullivan is stuck on those Islanders playoff losses from like 5 years ago.

If he was there’s 0 chance Jarry is handed that moronic contract last summer.

 

[Gurglesons]

Watch him somehow score 20 goals next season.

Sullivan would be like:

Watch him not get a single NHL game.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Because Sid has earned it. Sid is owed that time and privilege. End of story.

The longer people want to pretend that is not the case or that he's not deserving of it, the longer they will continue to be baffled by moves that support that viewpoint and the longer they will be mad about it.

Not trying to be harsh to you in particular or anything but people. need. to. get. this. through. their. heads: Sid WILL resign. They WILL try to "stay competitive for Sid's sake while building for the future. There will NOT be a full strip down involving trading Sid, Geno, and/or Letang. The true rebuild will start when Sid retires.

This is has been discusses by Dubas sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many f***ing times that it's baffling that people don't understand at this point. Do I think it's the right thing to do...yes, actually. I do. 100%. That doesn't mean I will like or defend every move or signing that supports that blueprint but we are in for some dark times once they leave. Enjoy the sunset while we can.

Re-read my post. Where in my post did I say I'm unaware he will do this? I literally said the opposite. So why bother explaining the state of affairs to me? It's weird.

I am talking about what SHOULD happen, not what WILL happen.

In your opinion they should prioritize Crosby's feelings. In my opinion they've already done that for 18 years and need to get assets at this time.

I don't want to "enjoy the sunset", and watch my team waste time and assets. That's stupid. I want to enjoy my team being 100% committed to winning championships again.
Sid is not bigger than the Pittsburgh Penguins, much like how Stamkos is not bigger than the Tampa Bay Lightning.
If you're a serious GM you don't give contracts based on feels. You put emotions aside and do what is necessary.

That's how Vegas won their Cup. They've proven being cold-hearted is a successful formula for sustained excellence. Nobody is special. Nobody is exempt.

 

[Gurglesons]

I take Joseph and a 3rd every day of the week over Hayes and a 2nd.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Watch him not get a single NHL game.

It would be a little like how we had to sit here and get lectured about how valuable ZAR AKSHULLY is for years and then watch him move on to another team and in like less than a season have to settle for a PTO.

Except Harkins is so bad even the diehard armchair coach, microstat obsessed fans were like "yeah I don't get it with this guy at all."

 

[Gurglesons]

Faksa, Joseph and a 3rd for a 2nd basically.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Too busy signing hungry youth like Anthony Beauvillier lol.



Cope. Mathieu Joseph is the exact type of player teams pony up for at the deadline.

Anthony Beauvillier is exactly the type of player Kyle Dubas can't move.

Beau has 31pts in 55 playoff games. Joseph has 2pts in 10 playoff games. Beau makes $1.25M on an expiring contract. Joseph makes ~$3M with an extra year.

I'm sure Beau can get a 3rd if Dubas moves him at the TDL, just like Joseph. /shrug

Keep seething though you f***ing dumb whiner.

 

[Gurglesons]

It would be a little like how we had to sit here and get lectured about how valuable ZAR AKSHULLY is for years and then watch him move on to another team and in like less than a season have to settle for a PTO.

Except Harkins is so bad even the diehard armchair coach, microstat obsessed fans were like "yeah I don't get it with this guy at all."

it's weird how the same people that are saying to be patient with kyle dubas' great plan are the same people that groupthunk how good ZAR was.

very weird.

 

[Andy99]

I take Joseph and a 3rd every day of the week over Hayes and a 2nd.

Sullivan loves Hayes though and not a fan of Joseph brothers lol

 

[Gurglesons]

Beau has 31pts in 55 playoff games. Joseph has 2pts in 10 playoff games. Beau makes $1.25M on an expiring contract. Joseph makes ~$3M with an extra year.

I'm sure Beau can get a 3rd if Dubas moves him at the TDL, just like Joseph. /shrug

Keep seething though you f***ing dumb whiner.

Some teams make good moves.

 

[IcedCapp]

That's how Vegas won their Cup. They've proven being cold-hearted is a successful formula for sustained excellence. Nobody is special. Nobody is exempt.

Pens have 3 of them. I know you know this, because you know. And you're super cool. But I think Vegas would lick our balls to have 3 vs 1.

What's the point of being a fan if you don't have an emotional attachment to the team and players? I ain't window shopping for a new watch. I find the way Vegas ships people out as soon as they have a shiny new ruptured spleen to play with a bit off-putting, from a human perspective.

But, and I can't overstate how confused I am: if you aren't emotionally attached to the team and players, and you don't care about watching your team's most-important players finish with your team, and you really enjoy the vegas way of doing things, why the f*** aren't you just a fan of Vegas? Like, if you don't care about the attachments, go be unattached. Why care about Pittsburgh?

(to be super duper clear, I ain't gatekeeping fandom here, but the way you've described your feelings towards the Penguins' greats and your disdain for them sticking around, you seem to be a fan of the process more than anything, so.... like... why not go cheer for better processes? Hell, the way Tampa just got rid of Stamkos should have you harder than diamond right now)

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Some teams make good moves.

 

[Gurglesons]

Pens have 3 of them. I know you know this, because you know. And you're super cool. But I think Vegas would lick our balls to have 3 vs 1.

What's the point of being a fan if you don't have an emotional attachment to the team and players? I ain't window shopping for a new watch. I find the way Vegas ships people out as soon as they have a shiny new ruptured spleen to play with a bit off-putting, from a human perspective.

But, and I can't overstate how confused I am: if you aren't emotionally attached to the team and players, and you don't care about watching your team's most-important players finish with your team, and you really enjoy the vegas way of doing things, why the f*** aren't you just a fan of Vegas? Like, if you don't care about the attachments, go be unattached. Why care about Pittsburgh?

Any suggestions on how you think I can get Vegas to lick my balls?

 

[SEALBound]

Re-read my post. Where in my post did I say I'm unaware he will do this? I literally said the opposite. So why bother explaining the state of affairs to me? It's weird.

I am talking about what SHOULD happen, not what WILL happen.

In your opinion they should prioritize Crosby's feelings. In my opinion they've already done that for 18 years and need to get assets at this time.

I don't want to "enjoy the sunset", and watch my team waste time and assets. That's stupid. I want to enjoy my team being 100% committed to winning championships again.
Sid is not bigger than the Pittsburgh Penguins, much like how Stamkos is not bigger than the Tampa Bay Lightning.
If you're a serious GM you don't give contracts based on feels. You put emotions aside and do what is necessary.

That's how Vegas won their Cup. They've proven being cold-hearted is a successful formula for sustained excellence. Nobody is special. Nobody is exempt.

I literally said in my post that wasn't talking about you to you. It was more a global announcement or soapbox about others.

That said:
1. Sid is a WAY bigger deal to the Pens than Stammer was to the TBL.
2. Vegas didn't have a Sid. It's easy if you're cycling through guys VGK have had.
3. Pens are not wasting assets at the moment. They are collecting assets.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

The difference between moving on from a Stamkos and moving on from a Crosby is worlds apart IMO.