Speculation: Fowler or Dobes future starter of Habs?

[MM425]

I have to think Dobes has the highest ceiling out of all of them just based on his combination of size and athleticism.

If he shores up some of the flaws in his game, there is legitimate dominant goalie potential with him.

 

[Kojo]

I have to think Dobes has the highest ceiling out of all of them just based on his combination of size and athleticism.

If he shores up some of the flaws in his game, there is legitimate dominant goalie potential with him.

Dobes doesn't have Fowler's swagger. Dobes is almost 25 years old he reached his ceiling already. He's going to be a very good backup goalie.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Can we have both and pay each guy exactly half of what an elite goalie makes?

Seeing the struggles of hellebick in the playoffs i don’t ever want to see my team go with an “elite” starter and warm body backup. You need to have a good 1b

 

[Frank Drebin]

Dobes doesn't have Fowler's swagger. Dobes is almost 25 years old he reached his ceiling already. He's going to be a very good backup goalie.

Huh? Goalies with 20 nhl games don’t reach their ceiling at 23.

Montembault was waived by a bad Florida team when he was 25

 

[Kojo]

Huh? Goalies with 20 nhl games don’t reach their ceiling at 23.

Montembault was waived by a bad Florida team when he was 25

Montembault shouldn't be mentioned in the same conversation. What did you see in Montembault when he was 20 years old? That's right, a whole lot of nothing. What are you trying to do here?

Are you trying to convince us that Monty is the goalie for the future? What's you plan?

Montembault won the stupid 4 nation tourney, that's his greatest achievement so far.

 

[JianYang]

This is the habs circa 2007.

Montembeault = Huet
Dobes = Halak
Fowler = Price

I'm comparing situationally.. not talent wise.

 

[nhlfan9191]

I’m scared they trade Dobes and keep Monty to make room for Fowler and Dobes becomes a legend. His size and those far-post glove and pad Carey Price-like saves have me convinced. Good poise, can play the puck… Weird having too many good goalies!

I think they might ride Montembault and one of the kids for one more season and reaccess the situation next year. I doubt the staff is confident going with a Dobes/Fowler tandem at this point in time. They’re both still very green.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Montembault shouldn't be mentioned in the same conversation. What did you see in Montembault when he was 20 years old? That's right, a whole lot of nothing. What are you trying to do here?

Are you trying to convince us that Monty is the goalie for the future? What's you plan?

Monty is a decent starter today and was waived by a terrible florida team when he was a year older than dobes is now.

You just finished saying that a 23 year old goalie who has played 20 nhl games in his career has reached his ceiling. Im just hoping to illustrate to you how absurd that is by using monty as an example.

 

[expy]

Monty is a decent starter today and was waived by a terrible florida team when he was a year older than dobes is now.

You just finished saying that a 23 year old goalie who has played 20 nhl games in his career has reached his ceiling. Im just hoping to illustrate to you how absurd that is by using monty as an example.

We don't need a decent-at-best goalie, and shouldn't settle for such.

 

[Kojo]

Monty is a decent starter today and was waived by a terrible florida team when he was a year older than dobes is now.

You just finished saying that a 23 year old goalie who has played 20 nhl games in his career has reached his ceiling. Im just hoping to illustrate to you how absurd that is by using monty as an example.

How much can Dobes improve until Fowler arrive and take over?

 

[Frank Drebin]

How much can Dobes improve until Fowler arrive and take over?

I dont know. I prefer monty for the next 3-5 years over him anyway. I just think it’s silly to say he’s reached his ceiling after this season

 

[Frank Drebin]

We don't need a decent-at-best goalie, and shouldn't settle for such.

Properly constructed teams can easily win cups with montembault level goaltending. At least what he showed us in the first 3.5 games this year

 

[BLONG7]

Pleasant problem eh guys.
It's likely to be Fowler, remember the Billy Ryan rant, all he does is win guys.
Also........why does Primeau dominate the AHL and struggle so bad when in the NHL??

Can we trade Primeau? Would anyone take a chance on him?

 

[NobleSix]

Fowler has the pedigree to be a very good NHL starter. He looks a bit on the smaller side even though he's listed at 6'2".

Dobes has a very rare mix of size and athleticism. His positioning and movement does get him into trouble so he'll need to work on that.

Volokhin should be included in this discussion as well. Just a solid goaltender in all areas. I personally believe he has the highest ceiling of the three.

It will come down to who develops better over the next 3 years and adapts their games and shortcomings better to the NHL game. There should be a relatively good tandem made of whichever two we decide to keep.

 

[BLONG7]

I dont know. I prefer monty for the next 3-5 years over him anyway. I just think it’s silly to say he’s reached his ceiling after this season

Monty is not going anywhere yet, but not so sure he has another 3-5 years in him in Montreal.

 

[salbutera]

G has become a science, the margin of difference between G is thin & mainly all about compete & mental approach

Fowler’s “differentiator” & why he was drafted was specifically his mental approach - ability to focus & remain calm under crazy conditions

Dobes has the worst rebound control / positioning compared to Diekembe & Fowler, with latter probably having the best - mechanics though can be worked on & improved over time

If Fowler pulls a Price circa 2007 Calder Cup run, he will have pole vaulted himself to top of the food chain.

I would seriously gauge what market is willing to offer for Diekembe this off-season - past seasons performance + very manageable AAV for next 2-seasons might net an impressive return from a disappointed contender / wannabe

 

[calder candidate]

Dobes is the most physically gifted, bigger and faster but doesn’t have the same mental focus.

Fowler has the technique and focus doesn’t have the size.

Everyone writing off Primeau but he but plenty of goalie that took long time and detours to make it.

 

[jaffy27]

Way too early to tell but the way Fowler has played since reporting to Laval is eye opening.
But I will stick with...too early to tell.

Ya, it’s tough to tell, love them both….then add Volokhin in the mix and a very likeable Monty and you got yourself Mexican standoff….

I believe Dobes and Fowler will be an excellent tandem for the next decade easy, maybe one stands out more which makes the other one tradeable and Volokhin becomes your #2….?

This one has as many endings as a Thai message parlour….will have to wait for the ending lol

 

[Vachon23]

So hard with goalie so it’s to early to tell..

Fowler seems like a better bet, he’s more composed and calm while I don’t see Dobes being a starter if he doesn’t improve his rebond control and his cool in the net.

But Fowler hasn’t played a game in the NHL yet so he could be a total flop too

 

[jaffy27]

Think this is pretty clearly Fowler right now

Not so fast….I’m thinking this picture comes into focus in 2-3yrs.

With the proper coaching, DOBES can become technically sound and with that size and athleticism…a nightmare for opposing shooters.

Think we in good hands between the pipes for the next 15yrs

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Not so fast….I’m thinking this picture comes into focus in 2-3yrs.

With the proper coaching, DOBES can become technically sound and with that size and athleticism…a nightmare for opposing shooters.

Think we in good hands between the pipes for the next 15yrs

Yes, I think Dobes has a great future. Fowler, however, is the best goalie prospect in the world.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Fowler has the pedigree to be a very good NHL starter. He looks a bit on the smaller side even though he's listed at 6'2".

Dobes has a very rare mix of size and athleticism. His positioning and movement does get him into trouble so he'll need to work on that.

Volokhin should be included in this discussion as well. Just a solid goaltender in all areas. I personally believe he has the highest ceiling of the three.

It will come down to who develops better over the next 3 years and adapts their games and shortcomings better to the NHL game. There should be a relatively good tandem made of whichever two we decide to keep.

Volokhin is tough to gauge for me. Technically sound, but playing on an absolutely terrible Sochi team and getting lit up with no supporting cast.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Dobes reminds me of when Melanson was Price’s coach and he was all over his crease.

Fowler reminds me of prime Price when he was in control of his movements and positioning.

Fowler starter, hands down. Dobes future backup.

 

[sbhatt]

Internal competition is a good thing. If hearing Fowler's footsteps leads to Dobes working his a** off during the off-season on rebound control, great. Let them compete for the backup role during camp and the exhibition games. I like the idea of a meritocracy where draft pedigree/seniority mean nothing.

 

[Paddyjack]

Montembault shouldn't be mentioned in the same conversation. What did you see in Montembault when he was 20 years old? That's right, a whole lot of nothing. What are you trying to do here?

Are you trying to convince us that Monty is the goalie for the future? What's you plan?

Montembault won the stupid 4 nation tourney, that's his greatest achievement so far.

Dude, his point was that the Monty of today is greatly improved over the Monty of before, despite being waived at 25, so talking of ceiling at 23 for a goalie is ridiculous.