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Four Nations Standings
USA 6 points ( 2 regulation wins )
Canada 2 points ( 1 OTW over Sweden 1 Regulation lost)
Finland 2 points ( 1 OTW over Sweden 1 Regulation lost)
Sweden 2 points ( 2 OT losses )

USA is in the Championship game - Thursday

Canada is in with a regulation win over Finland (have tie breaker over Sweden) - Monday's early game
Canada is in with a OT win over Finland if USA wins in regulation or game goes OT
Canada is out if they win in OT and Sweden wins in Regulation - Monday's evening game
Canada is out if they lose to Finland in any fashion.

Finland is in if they win in Regulation (have tie breaker over Sweden)
Finland is in with a OT win and the USA-Sweden goes to OT
Finland is out with any lost (Canada will have more points)

Sweden is only in with a Regulation win and Canada-Finland goes to OT ( an OT win won't help as either Canada or Finland will win and both have the tie breaker over Sweden)
 
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Omni Owl said:
Besides his nice pass to McNugget on the goal, Drew didn't look all that impressive. He has a bad habit of taking long predictable wind up slap shots at the point, too easy to block and anticipate. Looks behind on a lot of plays, hopefully his timing comes back. He also made a bad change on Larkin's goal, but Crosby is partially responsible for that turnover. Fully expected Chuckf*** to take a run at him, which he did. At least he didn't get injured. One of the craziest starts to a game I've ever seen, but things seemed to wind down after the 1st. I can't believe Scheifele isn't on team Canada, he's almost Mackinnon tier. The goalie situation is also grim for the 'Nadiens, how did they not invite Logan Thompson with the season he's having?
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He wasn't great but he was the best canada dman by a large margin. I think that's more damning of Canada than praise for Drew, though. He's very clearly not up to speed, laboring. Morrissey was great at moving the puck but got posterized too many times. Considering Drew's geriatric, missed the season till now, is coming off a major injury, and is just walking into a best on best tourney with a young partner fresh off the plane with no international experience, that was a much better performance than i expected. And re: the change, not sure why everyone is laying into Drew when he was the one closest to the bench and Crosby made one of the worst turnovers I've seen in a tournament. That was all Sid. It was a Fiala special but in slow motion.
 
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killermiller said:
I'm Canadian and i'm embarrassed at all the anti USA rhetoric going around, keep your personal/political feelings outside of sports. Doesn't make any sense to lump a whole country and their people (our biggest ally, neighbor, import/export) all together. So many people can't even cope with the fact that the American hockey system has been getting better from year to year, feels like we've lost to them on the world stage at every level within the last decade.

Canadians are so stuck in this weak national identity of being better at the Americans at anything we can that brings out the worst in our country and the people here. I'm almost rooting for USA in this tournament as much as I am Canada and I hope at the very least the stupid booing during the anthems will stop soon
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Don’t mind the booing at all. On some level it must’ve made last night’s loss even more demoralizing for them and I just think that’s beautiful.
 
KingsOfCali25 said:
I got banned from the main board thread because I clicked on the live feed and didn't see the mod warning about sensitive topics. I joked about the US and Canada becoming one, so you might have a point lol
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Typical for the main board on this site.
 
KingsOfCali25 said:
I don't go there often except for the Trade and rumors part, but it definitely was the wrong move. I see why so many people complain that us Kings fans stay on the Kings page. They are way to sensitive on the main boards
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For me, I like a lot of folks there and want to be involved--but there's a combo of both that sensitivity and an ignorance/arrogance towards "LA isn't a hockey market, you don't know shit" attitude that lands in the discussion.

See such hits as "I wouldn't trade Anderson for Vilardi, I wouldn't even trade a 7th, we'll just get him off waivers you're just overrating your prospects" and "Danault will be worth 1 million a goal, you guys are idiots"

Every time we try to join a prospect thread for updates we're immediately outed as dumb sunbelt fans. At this point it's why even bother. I just stick around here for the most part or you're gonna have to eat some points calling out the confident ignorance of the above since we are VASTLY outnumbered by rival fans. There's very often way more substantial and in-depth discussion here, even when it's just opinions.
 
Hockey is weird and I don't like to prematurely wave the white flag but I don't see any way Finland comes back, they look hapless and overwhelmed
 
DoktorJeep said:
Canada gonna regret taking Koceckny and Jarvis over Scheiffle and Vilardi.
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It's the same issue with Tage Thompson and Cole Caufield for the USA, they probably aren't going to be effective playing down the lineup and not getting PP time.

Raccoon Jesus said:
Brock Faber with another ho hum 25 minutes, +3, including making the poised play out of the zone that led to the empty netter

probably not a top pairing dman though and kind of worthless, etc.
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99% of players just shoot that puck around the boards, but he has the sense to know how much time he has, stop on a dime, spin to his forehand and throw a dart to Larkin (knowing that the only way it's knocked down is with a high stick). The guys hockey IQ in the defensive zone is possibly the best in the world. To be 22 years old and sent out to protect a 1 goal lead in the final 90 seconds against the 6 guys they had out there was truly remarkable.

But hey, we have people who point out that he hadn't scored in 10 games and then make a mocking joke about him being a hall of famer, because you know it's just totally normal for a player to be this good and be given that kind of responsibility at his age.
 
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Big ratings for this tournament on Thursday night in Boston. It will be tough for the U.S. to beat Canada twice in a row. USA will have to be even more physical in the game on Thursday night.
 
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KINGS17 said:
Big ratings for this tournament on Thursday night in Boston. It will be tough for the U.S. to beat Canada twice in a row. USA will have to be even more physical in the game on Thursday night.
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I know, I am nervous this will be like the 2010 Olympics.

In 2002 Canada lost to Sweden in the prelims and came back to beat the USA in the Gold-Medal game. In 2010 they lost to Team USA in the prelims and beat them in the Gold Medal game.

The one thing that does give me hope is Canada's defense is not that great and Binnington is playing with zero confidence. I think the big thing for Team USA is Matthews and Hughes being more dangerous offensively, Matthews played a solid 200 foot game vs. Canada and their loaded centers, but he's going to need to put one in on Thursday, he has a chance to be the best American born player of all-time, this is a moment he needs to shine.

Between the lack of any kind of playoff success and no international hockey, it's been a long-time for us Kings fans that we have been able to watch a game this meaningful. June 2014 was a long time ago.
 
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I think in hindsight they should have done a semi-final game.

Do the round-robin, KO the 4th place team, have 2/3 play in a semi-final on Thursday and have the championship game be on weekend night instead of a Thursday.

This makes the RR still mean a lot, really incentivizing winning it by getting a bye to the final and obv finishing last KO's you.
 
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I'm also having 2010 flash backs.

In that tournament Canada was having goaltending problems with Brodeur/Luongo while the USA goaltender Miller played great. In the first game USA won while Canada carried the play.

Feels like a similar setup.

Matthew Tkachuk looks injured too.
 
johnjm22 said:
I'm also having 2010 flash backs.

In that tournament Canada was having goaltending problems with Brodeur/Luongo while the USA goaltender Miller played great. In the first game USA won while Canada carried the play.

Feels like a similar setup.

Matthew Tkachuk looks injured too.
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Is there time to clone Adam Deadmarsh?

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Yeah a really underwhelming game for the US even if there wasn't anything on the line. Doesn't help losing Matthews before the game and immediately losing Brady as well. Only gave up 2 goals, but both Tkachuk brothers not being at a 100% is concerning, they both made a huge difference in the Canada game.
 
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