the valiant effort
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Let Bedard continue dealing with some “adversity” and earn his way onto the Olympic team
World Cup: Four Nations Tournament-Team Canada
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Hockey Canada needs to win both 4 Nations and the WJC with the selections they’ve been making lately. They will be publicly crucified if they lose with all the questionable selections.
A TON OF skill left off this team in lieu of grinders if the rumours are true:
-Robert Thomas
-Connor Bedard
-Mark Scheifele
-Matthew Barzal
-Nick Suzuki
-Carter Verhaege
-Alexis Lafreniere
A TON OF skill left off this team in lieu of grinders if the rumours are true:
-Robert Thomas
-Connor Bedard
-Mark Scheifele
-Matthew Barzal
-Nick Suzuki
-Carter Verhaege
-Alexis Lafreniere
Interesting pick if true.
Leads all NHL players in 5v5 xGF% this year but also has a PDO of .950. I havnt seen much of him this season but I hope he kills it for us if hes the guy.
HFpapi
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Not sure a single one of those guys should be on the team based on merit/needs.
I've been a big proponent of Thomas being on the team but he's been injured this season. Bedard I think we all expected to be there but he's been really struggling and given his lack of 200 foot play and lack of experience he couldn't afford a poor start.
None of the other guys were ever front runners for the team and have all largely struggled or at least not stood out.
Rumors can make some interesting lineups. Lemme try.
Hagel-McDavid-Marner
Point-MacKinnon-Konecny
Marchand-Crosby-Reinhart
Bennet-Cirelli-Stone
Jarvis
Team Canada has taken the 2-way puck hound approach. Puck pressure on the opposing teams is going to be intense. Maybe worries about net front?
Hagel-McDavid-Marner
Point-MacKinnon-Konecny
Marchand-Crosby-Reinhart
Bennet-Cirelli-Stone
Jarvis
Team Canada has taken the 2-way puck hound approach. Puck pressure on the opposing teams is going to be intense. Maybe worries about net front?
Rob Brown
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I have a hard time taking the D seriously with Parayko and Sanheim on it, personally. And goaltending is a clear weakness compared to the other three.
Team looks good, but I would have opted for a more skilled LW option instead of Bennett wit this set-up. Could have been Verhaege, Thomas (move Cirelli to wing) Laf or Scheifele. Think it would made the team gel better and created a more well-rounded bottom 6.
TheBeastCoast
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I mean Sanheim is really really good. Just because he is wildly under rated doesn't make him a bad choice. Parayko shouldn't be there over someone like Weegar though.
Rob Brown
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My understanding of Sanheim was that he's had a tough few years but maybe I'm wrong and it's a misperception thing.
ConnorMcMullet
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Seems like Jarvis did indeed make it as the 13F. Interesting.
Parayko too, which isn’t surprising.
Parayko too, which isn’t surprising.
TheDoldrums
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Cliff notes from the CJ/Lebrun piece at the Athletic about the decisions:
Projected forward lineup
Reinhart – McDavid – Marner
Marchand – Crosby – MacKinnon
Hagel – Point – Stone
Bennett - Cirelli - Konecny
Jarvis
- Tavares, Duchene and Stamkos didn't get support over younger options
- Scheifele isn't a 4th liner (reading between the lines, defensive concerns)
- Jarvis starting as the 13th forward
- Wanted to take the two established NHL pairs on defense in Toews/Makar and Theodore/Pietrangelo
- Offensive defensemen boxed out with Makar dominating the PP time
- Doughty had inside track on a spot before his injury
- Binngton and Hill taken for Cup wins
- Montembault taken because he's young enough to be an Olympic candidate (uh Logan Thompson is younger but okay)
Overall a lot of talk about taking Cup winners...
Projected forward lineup
Reinhart – McDavid – Marner
Marchand – Crosby – MacKinnon
Hagel – Point – Stone
Bennett - Cirelli - Konecny
Jarvis
- Tavares, Duchene and Stamkos didn't get support over younger options
- Scheifele isn't a 4th liner (reading between the lines, defensive concerns)
- Jarvis starting as the 13th forward
- Wanted to take the two established NHL pairs on defense in Toews/Makar and Theodore/Pietrangelo
- Offensive defensemen boxed out with Makar dominating the PP time
- Doughty had inside track on a spot before his injury
- Binngton and Hill taken for Cup wins
- Montembault taken because he's young enough to be an Olympic candidate (uh Logan Thompson is younger but okay)
Overall a lot of talk about taking Cup winners...
TheDoldrums
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Definitely not a bad roster. My two biggest problems with it are taking Colton Parayko and not taking Logan Thompson.
Also kind of concerned there's not a great 3C option if they want to move Point up to the top 6. Swap him and Marchand and you have the 6 most skilled players all together, but Bennett or Cirelli being the 3C feels a bit much for them. I might've picked another centre ahead of Jarvis as the 13th forward for more flexibility. Honestly, I would probably have Celebrini as the 13th forward for another skilled centre option.
Also kind of concerned there's not a great 3C option if they want to move Point up to the top 6. Swap him and Marchand and you have the 6 most skilled players all together, but Bennett or Cirelli being the 3C feels a bit much for them. I might've picked another centre ahead of Jarvis as the 13th forward for more flexibility. Honestly, I would probably have Celebrini as the 13th forward for another skilled centre option.
Hodge
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Every pick except Montembeault makes sense. Barzal, Tavares, Duchene, Bedard, Stamkos, etc. aren't skilled enough to play top six/top PP unit on this team and the forwards who made the cut are more reliable in depth/PK minutes while still being plenty skilled. Sanheim-Parayko is who you want on your third pair over offensemen like Bouchard and Dobson. Canada should be the favorite to win the tournament in spite of goaltending.
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jj cale
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Daccord must be crushed. when you gotta break it to a kid from Massachusetts that his life long dream of playing for Team Canada is not going to happen that can't be anything less then soul extinguishing.
I never would have expected Jarvis, good call by some of the guys here thinking Cirelli was a legit option. Parayko is less of a surprise though I don't think many people thought going into this season he really would be here but I can see why he is here and I think he can do well. My man Monty made it ...................chance for you be our good luck charm again? Konecny flat out played his way on and so did Sanheim.
I never would have expected Jarvis, good call by some of the guys here thinking Cirelli was a legit option. Parayko is less of a surprise though I don't think many people thought going into this season he really would be here but I can see why he is here and I think he can do well. My man Monty made it ...................chance for you be our good luck charm again? Konecny flat out played his way on and so did Sanheim.
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GlassesJacketShirt
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What makes you think the Amerks' staff won't make similarly questionable decisions?
JackSlater
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If the rumoured team is true it is a somewhat conservative team but pretty easy to imagine it functioning. Everyone has a clear role, though there are a lot of RW types. It's basically a team built to win a harder version of the Stanley Cup playoffs, but there are no seven game series here. Clear premium placed on championship experience and a fair number of tenacious players. If that is the team then I am disappointed that they were not able to go younger, though I still hope for the best.
