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World Cup: Four Nations Tournament-Team Canada

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Watched Winnipeg-Chicago tonight; I don’t know what they see in Adam Lowry, but apart from winning face offs he doesn’t really do anything special and had his pocket picked several times. Scheifele offers an interesting skillset and Morrisey is basically a lock.

Bedard needs to start driving play more 5v5, I’ve found his start this year pretty pedestrian compared to last year in terms of overall impact
 
This has got to be seen as a dress rehearsal for the olympics. If I ran Hockey Canada - and I honestly think random fans could do a better job, I would be looking at proving out my best roster for next year.

Dobson & Bouchard would get lots of action. If they take the next step to Elite defencemen the Canada's D would look alot better.

Guys like Owen Power would get a look because I can really see him breaking out in the next 16 months.

Same for Bedard and Celebrini.

The older guys like Crosby, Pietrangelo would get looks to see if they can still keep up on best on best.

This tournament is fun but I really care about the olympics.
 
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Silky Johnson said:
This has got to be seen as a dress rehearsal for the olympics. If I ran Hockey Canada - and I honestly think random fans could do a better job, I would be looking at proving out my best roster for next year.

Dobson & Bouchard would get lots of action. If they take the next step to Elite defencemen the Canada's D would look alot better.

Guys like Owen Power would get a look because I can really see him breaking out in the next 16 months.

Same for Bedard and Celebrini.

The older guys like Crosby, Pietrangelo would get looks to see if they can still keep up on best on best.

This tournament is fun but I really care about the olympics.
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I agree with this perspective. I do not think that Hockey Canada agrees. I'd be content for the four nations roster to be experimental and err on the side of youth.
 
Canada is stacked on the left side with Toews/Theodore/Morrisey, but the more and more I watch Dallas the more I think Thomas Harley needs to find a place in this team. Skates really for his size and puts out fires for Heiskanen whilst providing good first pass and offensive impact.

Would trust him more than Dobson or Bouchard to play against the opposition’s best players
 
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Canada is stacked on the left side with Toews/Theodore/Morrisey, but the more and more I watch Dallas the more I think Thomas Harley needs to find a place in this team. Skates really for his size and puts out fires for Heiskanen whilst providing good first pass and offensive impact.

Would trust him more than Dobson or Bouchard to play against the opposition’s best players
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He’ll be in the conversation, but as you said Canada’s Left Side is STACKED. Will be hard for him to break through. Canada ahs the luxury of leaving guys like Vince Dunn, Dougie Hamilton, Alex Pietrangelo and Aaron Ekblad off their blue lines.
 
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Mark Scheifele and Mark Stone are making excellent cases for why they should be on Team Canada over the youth movement . I always love how Canadian players always play their best during the years of Olympics and in this case, 4 Nations.

Brad Marchand off to a slow start the first couple of games, but I’m sure he’ll still be a 70-80pt guy.

Connor Bedard may have had his best game yet against the Oilers

Crosby and McDavid still waiting for their 1st goals of the season
 
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Monty should be the starter, no question.

Laf deserves a serious looks at 2LW
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I have to say that Montreal is the premium market for average to poor goalie stats being somehow extrapolated to be good because they are on a "bad" team.

This happened with most of Carey Price's bad seasons, now this is happening with Montembeault. He is not a good goalie this season, and he was not a good goalie last season. He is a goalie that is sub .900 in his 150 games played. He has no proven pedigree, just poor to average stretches of play.
 
Robert Thomas OUT. Re-evaluated in 6 weeks. Fractured ankle.

Devon Toews expected to return Tuesday

Drew Doughty still month-to-month
 
Caroline Says ll said:
I have to say that Montreal is the premium market for average to poor goalie stats being somehow extrapolated to be good because they are on a "bad" team.

This happened with most of Carey Price's bad seasons, now this is happening with Montembeault. He is not a good goalie this season, and he was not a good goalie last season. He is a goalie that is sub .900 in his 150 games played. He has no proven pedigree, just poor to average stretches of play.
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This can be said about 95%+ of Canadian goaltending. Just gotta pick the guy that can get hot. No Canadian goalie has strung together multiple good seasons since Fleury/Kuemper. Its all just a stretch here and there.

Kind of odd to compare to Price though... Sure he had off years but he was fantastic anytime he had a Maple Leaf on his chest.
 
Caroline Says ll said:
I have to say that Montreal is the premium market for average to poor goalie stats being somehow extrapolated to be good because they are on a "bad" team.

This happened with most of Carey Price's bad seasons, now this is happening with Montembeault. He is not a good goalie this season, and he was not a good goalie last season. He is a goalie that is sub .900 in his 150 games played. He has no proven pedigree, just poor to average stretches of play.
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Monty has had fantastic advanced analytics the past couple of seasons. I would encourage you to look them up. Is he an elite goalie? We can’t say for sure, because we haven’t seen him play in front of a competent team other than a horrible and injury-ridden Montreal defence.

I will say that he’s a good goalie and is probably on the same level of a Hill and Binnington, which is all that you can hope for if you’re Team Canada.
 
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That is an extremely uninspiring Canada sweater, it looks like some sort of non-trademark souvenir you’d buy at Pearson airport
 
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View attachment 920701That is an extremely uninspiring Canada sweater, it looks like some sort of non-trademark souvenir you’d buy at Pearson airport
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This pic says something about the NHL but I'm not quite sure what it is. LOL.

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This article https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5867348/2024/10/24/nhl-stats-elias-pettersson-tom-wilson-rangers/ talks about the possibility of Wilson making Canada. There has been a fair bit of smoke about that going back to before the 2022 Olympics. Luszczyszyn is no insider though. Also notes Bedard's dominant underlying numbers to start this year.
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When Wilson is on his game, he's a force. He wouldn't be the worse addition Team Canada could come up with.
 
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This pic says something about the NHL but I'm not quite sure what it is. LOL.


When Wilson is on his game, he's force. He wouldn't be the worse addition Team Canada could come up with.
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I don't necessarily think that Wilson would be as awful as people sometimes claim.... but it's hard to know. He hasn't played internationally since the u18 level. If they have a Wilson itch that needs scratching, better at this NHL event than an event like the 2026 Olympics with the IIHF involved.

Several times I've wanted to see him at the IIHF world championship level to see how he would look and adapt in that sort of environment. In his favour is that variety is a good thing on a hockey team and there are not many players like Wilson around anymore, especially those who actually have some genuine ability. I have a perverse curiosity to see Wilson internationally... but more at that lower level.
 
JackSlater said:
I don't necessarily think that Wilson would be as awful as people sometimes claim.... but it's hard to know. He hasn't played internationally since the u18 level. If they have a Wilson itch that needs scratching, better at this NHL event than an event like the 2026 Olympics with the IIHF involved.

Several times I've wanted to see him at the IIHF world championship level to see how he would look and adapt in that sort of environment. In his favour is that variety is a good thing on a hockey team and there are not many players like Wilson around anymore, especially those who actually have some genuine ability. I have a perverse curiosity to see Wilson internationally... but more at that lower level.
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perverse curiosity is the correct phraseology. No thanks, not even an NHL exhibition tourney that I'm probably not even going to watch.
 
JackSlater said:
I don't necessarily think that Wilson would be as awful as people sometimes claim.... but it's hard to know. He hasn't played internationally since the u18 level. If they have a Wilson itch that needs scratching, better at this NHL event than an event like the 2026 Olympics with the IIHF involved.

Several times I've wanted to see him at the IIHF world championship level to see how he would look and adapt in that sort of environment. In his favour is that variety is a good thing on a hockey team and there are not many players like Wilson around anymore, especially those who actually have some genuine ability. I have a perverse curiosity to see Wilson internationally... but more at that lower level.
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This I agree with. I've long suspected that the management group would consider Wilson (or someone like him...of which there aren't many nowadays) for an event such as this. On NHL-sized ice, for a non-IIHF event...sure, go for it. Why not. Canada isn't exactly stacked with big, physical, truculent wingers like it used to be, and Wilson is pretty good at putting the puck in the back of the net.

Lets see if Wilson can keep up his hot start. Personally I'm more bullish on Wilson than on someone like Lowry. Wilson is a more unique player than is Lowry...he is used to playing alongside star players, and would be an asset in the bottom-6 to provide a physical dimension alongside a smaller stature player like Point (or Marchand, or Suzuki, or any number of depth wingers/centres we've been discussing).

I'm very bullish on Lafreniere to start the season. I think he's a really good bet to make the team. And with respect to Hyman, he's very close to fumbling what should have been a really good chance at a roster spot. I think he finds himself on the outside looking in at this point.
 
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