GDT: Four Nations Face-Off

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Would be nice if they would add Russia and then maybe a world team to give other top stars like Draisaitl/Kopitar/etc a chance to play

That's pretty much my mid-season international tourney proposal I write on HF every year or so. Those exact 6 clubs, take a mid-season break every year for it and never do an all star game again.

Of course Bettman is the reason we haven't already been doing international tourneys like this - but he'll take credit for what a great idea it is just like he is with this tournament.
 
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That's pretty much my mid-season international tourney proposal I write on HF every year or so. Those exact 6 clubs, take a mid-season break every year for it and never do an all star game again.

Of course Bettman is the reason we haven't already been doing international tourneys like this - but he'll take credit for what a great idea it is just like he is with this tournament.
I think the IIHF guy (can't remember his name right now) shares his own part of the blame. Just felt like 2 ego's in a room trying to make money and everyone else suffers while noone made money
 
This is what the NHL has been starving us of for far too many years
The new schedule should increase excitement for all 3 events. Not having the all star game every year should make it more meaningful, but the NHL needs to accept that players aren't gonna take that as seriously as this or the Olympics. It just needs to be a fun break for the players as well as the fans.
 
I think it would be cool to have 3 Canadian teams - French, east, west or French, Ontario, other - plus a couple of American teams - maybe NE centered and Midwest centered and then add the rest of the people to one team or the other — plus some European teams - Sweden, Finland, Central Europe (Czechs, Slovaks, Swiss, Germans, etc). It would be wild to have a Werenski Midwest US jesrsey.
 
While I do love this I do think yearly international tournaments would get old quickly

Every 2 years sounds good.

As far as all star games go, yeah I hate them too. It should just be a skills competition and a chance for the fans to meet and talk to players. The game itself is dumb.
 
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The new schedule should increase excitement for all 3 events. Not having the all star game every year should make it more meaningful, but the NHL needs to accept that players aren't gonna take that as seriously as this or the Olympics. It just needs to be a fun break for the players as well as the fans.
It's amazing how different players play when it's their country crest on the jersey and not a shitty all star game more geared for small children than entertaining hockey.

I think they know that but owners and management see these guys as assets and seeing things like the Theodore injury doesn't help the cause with these in season tournaments. The ratings have got to be through the roof vs the recent all star games though I'd imagine

I think it would be cool to have 3 Canadian teams - French, east, west or French, Ontario, other - plus a couple of American teams - maybe NE centered and Midwest centered and then add the rest of the people to one team or the other — plus some European teams - Sweden, Finland, Central Europe (Czechs, Slovaks, Swiss, Germans, etc). It would be wild to have a Werenski Midwest US jesrsey.
I don't think Canada can do that anymore. Quebec and the east don't put out enough quality anymore. Maybe west and Ontario but I think you can still keep it a nation thing but gotta add that world team so the random players from smaller nations get a chance
 
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I think the IIHF guy (can't remember his name right now) shares his own part of the blame. Just felt like 2 ego's in a room trying to make money and everyone else suffers while noone made money

A tourney like this doesn't have and doesn't need IIHF approval. The NHL could have done this any non-Olympic year they wanted to.

The new schedule should increase excitement for all 3 events. Not having the all star game every year should make it more meaningful, but the NHL needs to accept that players aren't gonna take that as seriously as this or the Olympics. It just needs to be a fun break for the players as well as the fans.

The All Star game will be a dud no matter how many years you wait for it. Hockey without intensity just isn't worth watching.
 
That's pretty much my mid-season international tourney proposal I write on HF every year or so. Those exact 6 clubs, take a mid-season break every year for it and never do an all star game again.

Of course Bettman is the reason we haven't already been doing international tourneys like this - but he'll take credit for what a great idea it is just like he is with this tournament.
Without getting political, actions have consequences and I don't blame Bettman for not including Russia...



Having said that, you put a Russian team in this tourney and it takes it to a whole nother level with how good that team would be right now.
 
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A tourney like this doesn't have and doesn't need IIHF approval. The NHL could have done this any non-Olympic year they wanted to.



The All Star game will be a dud no matter how many years you wait for it. Hockey without intensity just isn't worth watching.
They could have alternated the World Cup and Olympics every 2 years and everyone should have been happy was more in line with my point.

But yes, the NHL had this power. I'd shift the blame from the IIHF to the NHL owners though. At the end of the day Bettman represents them
 
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A tourney like this doesn't have and doesn't need IIHF approval. The NHL could have done this any non-Olympic year they wanted to.



The All Star game will be a dud no matter how many years you wait for it. Sports without intensity just isn't worth watching.
It's that way with every sport though really, I haven't cared about the NFL all star game or skills comp basically ever. Even the NBA dunk competition kinda got played out, there's only so many new ways to dunk a ball.

Maybe in place of the all star game they instead do a divisional round robin tourney. Would help build some of those conference rivalries a little bit.
 
Many hate him, but man, would it be great to get Brady in Columbus


I agree, but still Canada only scored 1 goal so far
USA scored 2 saveable goals. Could easily be a 1-1 game now

Things why people like the Tkachuk's now is why Columbus took the risk of drafting Lindstrom. Physical, talented power forwards are a rare breed who can change any given game
 
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People who stood out to me:

Boldy, Guentzel, McAvoy

Morrissey, Point

The guy who didn’t seem to make any impact at all even though he played a lot - Mitch Marner. Why would anyone want to pay him a ton of money?

Forget the fighting, what impressed me is the USA forwards seemed like they were committed to playing defense.
 
Without getting political, actions have consequences and I don't blame Bettman for not including Russia...



Having said that, you put a Russian team in this tourney and it takes it to a whole nother level with how good that team would be right now.

I wasn't talking about Russia this year - obviously it was never an option, the other teams wouldn't have shown up if Russia was invited. But next year it might be an option.

But yes, the NHL had this power. I'd shift the blame from the IIHF to the NHL owners though. At the end of the day Bettman represents them

I think that lets Bettman off the hook too easily. He has the power to set the agenda - if he says "we have to do international every couple years, so let's do it our way" then they do it.

or a real goalie

Canada has a real goalie?

I can think of a few I like more than Binnington, but I don't think any are that good.

It's that way with every sport though really, I haven't cared about the NFL all star game or skills comp basically ever. Even the NBA dunk competition kinda got played out, there's only so many new ways to dunk a ball.

Maybe in place of the all star game they instead do a divisional round robin tourney. Would help build some of those conference rivalries a little bit.

Why wouldn't you do international instead of a mid-season tourney of regular club teams?
 
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People who stood out to me:

Boldy, Guentzel, McAvoy

Morrissey, Point

The guy who didn’t seem to make any impact at all even though he played a lot - Mitch Marner. Why would anyone want to pay him a ton of money?

Forget the fighting, what impressed me is the USA forwards seemed like they were committed to playing defense.
Everytime his teammates give him shit for being a perimeter player he looks like he's on the verge of tears
 
I wasn't talking about Russia this year - obviously it was never an option, the other teams wouldn't have shown up if Russia was invited. But next year it might be an option.



I think that lets Bettman off the hook too easily. He has the power to set the agenda - if he says "we have to do international every couple years, so let's do it our way" then they do it.



Canada has a real goalie?

I can think of a few I like more than Binnington, but I don't think any are that good.



Why wouldn't you do international instead of a mid-season tourney of regular club teams?
It doesn't let Bettman off easy, it was a failure on multiple levels and Bettman should bear the brunt of it.

Canada said they were going to select a team based off of their season totals and then left Thompson off because of experiences in Vegas. We don't have a Price/Brodeur/Roy/etc anymore but I refuse to believe Binnigton is the best we have to offer
 
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Werenski looked good to me aside from that one McDavid rush. He was on for very little against. He's getting a lot of praise on the Canadian broadcast.

But he was also not getting a lot of minutes period - he and Fox got very limited third pair minutes. That's disappointing.

That was a 50/50 game that the US won because Connor Hellebuyck is the best goalie in the world. No other way to slice it

That's the most predictable thing about this matchup.

Another way of saying it - it's not really 50/50 if Hellebuyck is versus a Canadian goalie.
 
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Canada said they were going to select a team based off of their season totals and then left Thompson off because of experiences in Vegas. We don't have a Price/Brodeur/Roy/etc anymore but I refuse to believe Binnigton is the best we have to offer

They ought to put another goalie in.

I don't think any of them are good but one of them might get hot, and I don't think Binnington can do it.
 

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