I would think that whoever loses the game between Finland-Sweden is pretty much out of the running for the final game. I know in North America we all know about the rivalry between Canada and USA, but anyone in international hockey knows that the rivalry between Sweden and Finland is just as fierce, maybe even more so at times.
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NHL was smart, would integrate a US vs Canadian women and play them on
Saturday afternoon before US-Canada game like tomorrow.
Brilliant , that would add even more to the rivalry. I like that idea very much. I also really like this event instead of the boring all-star weekend, where it was more of a joke and players not really trying.
I have the same feeling about this tournament, I have watched the two games so far and entertaining, because it has quality product to watch, but the timing of this tournament sucks, and not to include other countries is ridiculous. I get the feeling it was put together in such haste that it justifies, my original thoughts, nothing more than a cash cow. The players in my opinion were taken advantage of knowing their love to play in such competition, that they would not refuse. Good idea bad timing, and must include other countries, Draitsl, Stutzle, Ovie, and others, bottom line you do it do it right and get this sour taste out of my mouth.
I had not seen this.
This is very, very cool.
Obviously I don't know the Gaudreau brothers, the individual responsible for their deaths, or the Gaudreau family. I remain greatly saddened by what happened, and the circumstances surrounding it.
At its best, hockey is a community.
That is one of the reasons why I love the sport. The people who play it, have played it, and love it are a special sort.
This is an object example.
Thank you for posting.
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What would be "doing it right'? Because if limited to NHLPA players only, the numbers just don't work.
US has beaten Canada twice at the World Juniors in what was best on best in
2013 (Lockout Late Start) and 2021 (Covid Late Start). That's the last wins for US Hockey best on best at U20/NHL level. Before that 2010 Olympics Round Robin
when US beat Canada. Canada still the Gold Standard.
I just feel that it was just thrown together, I am not against this kind of hockey, its great the best against the best. . Do you think that right in the middle of the season, is the right time with playoffs around the corner and TDL, does this take away from the Stanley Cup, Fans support their teams all year and then a important player to their team goes down with injury, and effects that teams chances for the cup, now injuries can and do happen at any time. Now for the players not playing this break can be a positive, heal up some and get their game back and ready to go forward into the playoffs is a positive. Hockey is one of the most demanding sports, maybe if you are going to do these types of tournaments, take a look at shortening the regular season schedule. Bottom line this is great idea so as we get to watch the best against the best, but it needs some more thought put into the process, and just by that little creep Betteman, and Marty Walsh and the owners, and more input from the players and the fans.
They already lost to Finland in a more significant game at the 2014 Olympics when Rask shutout US.
Tkachuk brothers, incredible players. wow what a game from them.
Imagine if Hughes wasnt hurt on D, holy smokes.
Imagine if Hughes wasnt hurt on D, holy smokes.
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The only thing I ever liked about All Star weekend was the old timers game they used to have, it was fun seeing former greats out there playing again. Being the idiots they are the NHL got rid of it. I haven't watched anything All Star related in years.
With no Q. Hughes and Thompson (should absolutely be there) available, can we US fans whine we we didn't have our best if Canada beats us?
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I don't think it takes away from the Stanley Cup at all. Injury risk is a deterring factor I agree, but not enough of a reason to not do it. Given they've shut down in February now 5 times prior to this and the injury issue came up a couple times (Hasek I believe in 2006, Tavares in 2014) where an NHL team had a key player get injured and it seriously impacted their season.
And owners won't want to shorten the season to squeeze it in either. They want their 41 home dates. I would like to see the regular season start earlier (I'd have camp open the Wednesday after labour day, start playing 3rd week Sept.) but I'd say the same even without a mid-season tourney. In my perfect NHL, the cup is awarded before the Victoria Day/Memorial Day weekends in May. Once the warmer weather hits, you've lost me unless the Bruins are involved.
They have really two openings to do this, February and late August. Me personally, elite hockey in August has never done anything for me. Not either World Cup (96/04/16), not the time they did the World Juniors or the 2020 Playoffs due to Covid.
I do think holding the tournament in February results in more interest and better hockey. These guys are in mid-season form and it shows. Say they held the 2016 World Cup in February, not a chance that make-shift Team Europe makes the final. Seeing these guys in top form tells me mid-season is the right time to do it if that is the road they are going down.
It was thrown together but the brevity of this tournament to me sort of works to it's advantage. If they start adding too many teams and making it longer, now your games mean less. Maybe 6 teams is the right number.
I guess bottom line there is a lot to be discussed, and not sure any of us will agree with everything. I one thing you and I will agree on, you and I in a couple of posts might have put more though and talks into it than the powers, in charge.
The best part about watching these games is the pace of the games and the high level of talent throughout the line up. This is not the expansion watered down lineups of the NHL filled with NHL want-to-bees. These games are actually enjoyable to watch regardless of who wins.
Folks - you must stop with the political jabs.
This isnt the place for it. Whilst I wasnt here last night I see Globals and Admins had to respond to a number of posts.
Ultimately it’s up to ‘you’ to control yourself.
If any of you get warned or banned dont DM me. You all know the rules that you agreed to.
This isnt the place for it. Whilst I wasnt here last night I see Globals and Admins had to respond to a number of posts.
Ultimately it’s up to ‘you’ to control yourself.
If any of you get warned or banned dont DM me. You all know the rules that you agreed to.
I am good with either team winning. Great hockey with no injuries please
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I'm cheering for a great game that goes down to the wire, I'm rooting for Canada but I honestly think this tournament is the USA's to lose...mainly because of our goaltending vs theirs.....really wish we (Canada) had invited Logan Thompson...don't have faith in the 3 we brought but anything can happen
On Team USA, Charlie McAvoy’s player-coach relationship with Mike Sullivan has added significance - The Boston Globe
McAvoy is married to Sullivan’s daughter, Kiley. The couple recently welcomed their first child.
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MONTREAL — Charlie McAvoy has taken some hits.
Oh, not the ones delivered by opponents in the heat of the battle on the ice, although he’s no stranger to those.
These fall into the category of friendly fire delivered in the friendly confines of the locker room.
File under: Chop busting 101.
It happens when your father-in-law is the coach.
McAvoy, the Bruins defenseman and alternate captain, is married to Mike Sullivan’s daughter, Kiley. The couple recently welcomed their first child, a boy, Rhys Michael.
“A little bit. And it’s fun. Everybody gets it at this point in the hockey world,” said McAvoy before Team USA played its first game of the 4 Nations Face-Off, against Finland Thursday night at Bell Centre. “I know it’s kind of more broadcasted now and especially on display for this tournament, but my friends all know and everybody really knows. So, it’s certainly funnier now and easier for guys to make a couple jokes about it.”
American goalie Jake Oettinger has a good sense of humor, but he hasn’t dipped his toes into this particular arena.
“I haven’t, no. I don’t want Sully to overhear me and then get mad at me,” Oettinger said with a sly smile. “It’s pretty cool for them, though.”
Oettinger’s connection with McAvoy — and his wife — goes back to their college days when they played two seasons together at Boston University.
“I know Kiley as well, I went to BU with her, so just pretty cool to see from where they were to where they are now, and now obviously they have a newborn,” said Oettinger. “And to play for your father-in-law, I mean, I think about myself playing for my father-in-law, how cool that would be. So, it’s pretty cool.”
joking aside, McAvoy has enjoyed the buildup to this tournament and appreciates the uniqueness of his player-coach relationship. He has enjoyed seeing Sullivan from a new perspective.
“Seeing his coaching style, obviously professionally, he’s had incredible success,” said McAvoy. “And it’s the same for us being pros, we both made it to the top tier that we can for our country, and that in itself is such an accomplishment. And yeah, it’s definitely been unique getting to see his coaching style and it’s been great and certainly we’re going to be prepared for this tournament, and all the hard work [the staff has] done, and it’s been a great three days of practice so far.”
Sullivan paused for a bit when asked about the opportunity to coach McAvoy. “Well, I can’t tell you what it means to our family and myself to have the opportunity to participate in an event like this with Charlie,” said Sullivan, a Marshfield, Mass., native, who like his son-in-law played at BU and for the Bruins before coaching his hometown NHL team. “First and foremost, he means the world to us for obvious reasons, and he’s a terrific person and we’re thrilled that he’s part of our family. To have an opportunity to coach him, I’m not sure I ever envisioned that.”
Sullivan said pretournament chats with McAvoy have been minimal. The coach set the tone early.
“I said to him, ‘Listen, when we’re in the tournament here, it’s all business and we’re trying to win.’ He’s all business and I’m all business and we’re trying to win,” said Sullivan. “Someday, we’re going to look back on it. We’re going to smile and we’re going to appreciate this opportunity that we have. And to be able to share it with him is a thrill for me and my whole family.”
It’s a family that recently grew with the addition of Sullivan’s first grandson and second grandchild.
McAvoy has seen Sullivan’s interaction with his first grandchild — “he’s a great grandpa” — and he’s excited for him to meet Rhys next week when the 4 Nations shifts to Boston.
“Quite honestly, what it’s like when him and my daughter just had their first baby, and for my wife and I, it’s an incredible thrill,” said Sullivan. “It’s certainly a privilege to be a grandparent and we’re enjoying that process also. And it’s new. He’s only two weeks old, I believe. So, it’s exciting times for our family. This event just adds to the excitement. Certainly, from my standpoint, I can’t tell you what it means to me to have the opportunity to share in this event with them.”
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