Four Nations-cup

[Frank the Tank]

This, Just brutal selections as a whole. Parayko and Doughty especially slow. So frustrating listening to Doughty's pre-tourney interview because it comes off as he knew all along he was gonna be a part of this as long as he was 'healthy enough' to play...despite literally missing half the season.

Parayko made zero sense too

I stated prior to Doughty's selection that the Oilers elite players feasted on him the last 3 playoffs. What made anyone in Canada's management team think that teams compromised entirely of elite players wouldn't do the same at the 4 Nations?

 

[ToeMcDrag83]

Petty and late, but little annoying to see this gear from Connor that's been largely missing all year for us.
Semi-kidding aside, hope he is refreshed/rejuvenated and healthy after this tournament, because we need him at his game-breaking best for the next few months.

 

[whatkubabine]

Marner is such a zero in games played at this pace. He simply can't elevate.

In almost any other year he would have been an easy omission, but Canada is a little thin in top end talent for the first time ever. Even at that, give me Schiefele all day over him. Or Thomas. Those guys actually know how to compete and adapt their game for their role.

Same with Reinhart. I know he’s a good scorer in the NHL but his play was that of most players — he’s a secondary guy. Feels like on this rare opportunity you want to put game breakers out there together like we do with McDrai.

At least give McDavid players who can make instant reads on a play. Crosby would be the perfect linemate. Reinhart and Marner and milquetoast guys who will produce inevitably, but in a short tournament it seems obvious to get guys who can make better plays with the puck up there. Marner is a terrible fit and Reinhart seems fine as a one-shot scorer type…but like with Hyman it’s annoying seeing these guys fail to put the puck on Davo’s stick.

Wouldn’t see that with Crosby.

 

[frag2]

I stated prior to Doughty's selection that the Oilers elite players feasted on him the last 3 playoffs. What made anyone in Canada's management team think that teams compromised entirely of elite players wouldn't do the same at the 4 Nations?

I wrote in ATL thread. Legacy picks. They choosing guys that either played for them or have 'history' with HC. Still not merit based selections.

Same with Reinhart. I know he’s a good scorer in the NHL but his play was that of most players — he’s a secondary guy. Feels like on this rare opportunity you want to put game breakers out there together like we do with McDrai.

At least give McDavid players who can make instant reads on a play. Crosby would be the perfect linemate. Reinhart and Marner and milquetoast guys who will produce inevitably, but in a short tournament it seems obvious to get guys who can make better plays with the puck up there. Marner is a terrible fit and Reinhart seems fine as a one-shot scorer type…but like with Hyman it’s annoying seeing these guys fail to put the puck on Davo’s stick.

Wouldn’t see that with Crosby.

Reinhart is slow and Marner is too scared to get hit. None of these guys work well with McD

 

[bone]

I wrote in ATL thread. Legacy picks. They choosing guys that either played for them or have 'history' with HC. Still not merit based selections.



Reinhart is slow and Marner is too scared to get hit. None of these guys work well with McD

I think Marner was adjusting through the game. Marner can be a linemate in a similar way that RNH is for McDavid. The square peg to me was Reinhart as he didn't seem to read what McDavid was doing whatsoever. Hopefully he watched a bunch of iso-cams of Hyman over the last couple days so he can find the best spots to go to when McDavid gets going.

 

[frag2]

I think Marner was adjusting through the game. Marner can be a linemate in a similar way that RNH is for McDavid. The square peg to me was Reinhart as he didn't seem to read what McDavid was doing whatsoever. Hopefully he watched a bunch of iso-cams of Hyman over the last couple days so he can find the best spots to go to when McDavid gets going.

We'll see how Marner is next game assuming hes on same line. Seems like neither Marner nor Reinhart crash the net like Hyman does for McD.

 

[ToeMcDrag83]

I think Brayden Point is the ideal linemate for Connor with what's available.

 

[bellagiobob]

now that've decided Harley can join team Canada after all

what a clusterf***

This is odd for the league, to have not thought ahead to potential scenarios. I mean they would never make a team give up a draft pick if the conditions of a trade weren’t met. Oh wait…

 

[Bobieque]

I think Brayden Point is the ideal linemate for Connor with what's available.

I was thinking this today, and agree, but them I'm not sure what they do with the third line.

I thought Point was outstanding and that line (that not only scored) was a real threat all night, so you may be sacrificing too much just to marginally improve the first line.

But when I thought "who could they put up there?" he seemed the only real choice.

 

[harpoon]

Marner is such a zero in games played at this pace. He simply can't elevate.

He literally scored the GWG. I’m no great fan of Marner, but calling him a zero after he scores the game winner seems a little weird.

 

[K1984]

He literally scored the GWG. I’m no great fan of Marner, but calling him a zero after he scores the game winner seems a little weird.

He was fortunate enough to have a launched wrister from distance go through some D men's legs and find a hole in OT, but was largely useless, and a detriment to his line for most of the night.

Is that better?

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

Marner sucked aside from the 0.3 seconds between the puck leaving his stick and hitting the back of the net.

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

I wrote in ATL thread. Legacy picks. They choosing guys that either played for them or have 'history' with HC. Still not merit based selections.



Reinhart is slow and Marner is too scared to get hit. None of these guys work well with McD

We learned our lesson after Turin, Yzerman nailed the 2010 roster. He went with who’s hot NOW, not 5-10 years ago and he also made some chemistry picks, selecting linemates like Kunitz for Crosby and Perry/Getz.

Hockey Canada much like the world is rapidly losing brain cells I guess.

 

[LeonDraisaitl29]

Isn't Harley American? I mean how hard is he really going to play against Team USA, lol

His parents are both from Edmonton, but he was born and raised in the US, so he's a dual citizen who chooses to play for Canada. Like Freddie Freeman, who plays for Canada internationally cause his mom was Canadian.

 

[BlackDogg]

His parents are both from Edmonton, but he was born and raised in the US, so he's a dual citizen who chooses to play for Canada. Like Freddie Freeman, who plays for Canada internationally cause his mom was Canadian.

I thought he was from Davidson.

 

[LeonDraisaitl29]

I thought he was from Davidson.

Hi Gene, never realized you had an account here

 

[K1984]

We learned our lesson after Turin, Yzerman nailed the 2010 roster. He went with who’s hot NOW, not 5-10 years ago and he also made some chemistry picks, selecting linemates like Kunitz for Crosby and Perry/Getz.

Hockey Canada much like the world is rapidly losing brain cells I guess.

It’s fits and starts. The 1998 team was also dumb.

There doesn’t seem to be any coherent infrastructure around any level of national team. We still seem to follow the 70s/80s mantra of “here Scotty, or here Glenn, pick your team” and that’s it.

It’s slightly more developed than that now, but not a lot. “Here you go Doug, do whatever you want.”