Player Discussion Former Habs & Picks watch: Gone but not forgotten (No Current NHLers) II

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And Riley Barber tied for the lead in points with 16, followed closely by Jordan Weal in 4th with 12 pts. Me thinks the KHL is not as deep as it used to be.
It's been a few years since the KHL took a nose dive in quality players, people just didn't want to believe it was true.
 
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It's been a few years since the KHL took a nose dive in quality players, people just didn't want to believe it was true.
To be fair there have always been some random great numbers. Darren Dietz was the best dman there for a couple years. I'm just going to come out and say that the KHL probably has less strict drug testing and a lot of these wouldbe AHLers juice which is why they suddenly become godlike for 1 or 2 years then back to scrubs. That and the larger ice gives them more time to make decisions; which is the difference between the AHL and NHL are those few seconds of thinking.
 
To be fair there have always been some random great numbers. Darren Dietz was the best dman there for a couple years. I'm just going to come out and say that the KHL probably has less strict drug testing and a lot of these wouldbe AHLers juice which is why they suddenly become godlike for 1 or 2 years then back to scrubs. That and the larger ice gives them more time to make decisions; which is the difference between the AHL and NHL are those few seconds of thinking.

Idk about "juicing", its quite possible but in most cases it just seems like its a fit/league level thing.

Jordan Weal was extremely productive in the AHL after all. If the KHL is at the AHL level at this point, its not exactly surprising that he's tearing it up.

Its not like we see a lot coming out of the KHL and having huge success in the NHL lately. Kuzmenko... Panarin near 10 years ago... who else?
 
To be fair there have always been some random great numbers. Darren Dietz was the best dman there for a couple years. I'm just going to come out and say that the KHL probably has less strict drug testing and a lot of these wouldbe AHLers juice which is why they suddenly become godlike for 1 or 2 years then back to scrubs. That and the larger ice gives them more time to make decisions; which is the difference between the AHL and NHL are those few seconds of thinking.
I don't think that's how juicing works. Most players take steroids to recover from injuries faster.

It's much likelier the second thing, about the larger ice and the general quality of competition.
 
Was looking up the NL since I'll be watching a lot of games soon, saw that Dauphin, Daniel Carr, and DLR are all off to big starts there.
 
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At 40 years of age, Tomas plekanec is still playing in the Czech league for kladno. Michael frolik is there as well.

Of course, this is still a far cry from jagr longevity, but it's hard to believe that plekanec has been out of the nhl for about 5 years now and is still kicking.
 
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And Riley Barber tied for the lead in points with 16, followed closely by Jordan Weal in 4th with 12 pts. Me thinks the KHL is not as deep as it used to be.
It is proving that KHL is not that great.

At 40 years of age, Tomas plekanec is still playing in the Czech league for kladno. Michael frolik is there as well.

Of course, this is still a far cry from jagr longevity, but it's hard to believe that plekanec has been out of the nhl for about 5 years now and is still kicking.
He could had played few more seasons
 
It is proving that KHL is not that great.


He could had played few more seasons

The way he left was really weird. He got his 1000th game really early in the season, scored a goal, then he was declared out with a back issue, and that was it.

It made me wonder if they had some sort of handshake agreement that he would be sent on his way after the 1000th game, and retire from the nhl as a canadien.
 
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Great article about a former habs pick....(french only). In essence, Walford is now playing with McGill. And was even invited to Tampa rookie camp.


Probably could have gotten an ECHL deal somewhere, but in hindsight of Covid, probably a way better decision to have stuck to school.

It is proving that KHL is not that great.


He could had played few more seasons

He was clearly done as a top9 in the NHL.

His play had dropped heavily in his last two seasons in Montreal and he wasn't good in Toronto either. If not for his 1000 game being right around the corner, his NHL career would have ended in July 2018 unless he accepted to be the league minimum spare forward/AHL vet that is mostly there for his leadership and brain.

It works for him in the Czech league because his innate skills is leagues ahead of 90% of the league even if his speed, stamina and power clearly dropped. Playing 50ish games instead of 82 definitely helps too.

Right now, he's mostly just helping one of his best friend Jagr keep their hometown (and youth) team from bankruptcy. Unless somebody else steps up or the fanbase stabilizes, their team might not last when they retire. The team was definitely was in a bad spot when they were relegated in the second Czech league. Again this year, can't say they have many big names (apart from the obvious two) and although the season is 1/8 done, they are dead last for the 2nd season in a row (2nd to last the year before).
 
The way he left was really weird. He got his 1000th game really early in the season, scored a goal, then he was declared out with a back issue, and that was it.

It made me wonder if they had some sort of handshake agreement that he would be sent on his way after the 1000th game, and retire from the nhl as a canadien.
I don’t recall Plekanec having back issues. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but Marc Bergevin pretty much forced him to retire.

I’m surprised Plekanec being waived and his contract terminated doesn’t get more attention. His top 6 days were obviously over however he was still a effective 4th liner. He had a rough start in Toronto but he was one of the Leafs best players during the playoffs and was even playing top 6 minutes with Patrick Marleau showing that he still had a bit of spark left.

I think the intention was for Plekanec to play the full 2018-2019 season. It just doesn’t make sense to me that he would have gotten a $2,25M contract just for him to play 3 games.

What followed in my opinion is a series of baffling decisions. Plekanec comes back, scores a goal in 3 games and his contract gets terminated. Unable to fill the void left by him we see a carousel of players centering the 4th line from guys like Chaput, Thompson, Weal, Peca.

In the case of Thompson (33 years old) we even traded a draft pick to acquire him. Plekanec was old but at age 34 he still had a few years in front of him and his replacement wasn’t much of an upgrade.

Chaput had 0 goals in 32 games -4
Thompson had 1 goal in 25 games -4
Peca had 3 goals in 39 games -14
Weal had 4 goals in 16 games 0


Tomas Plekanec could have produced more but also be better defensively.

He was a loyal player, he could have kept playing but he didn’t see himself playing anywhere else. Him sitting in the press-box with Bergevin once his contract was terminated was a sad sight. They said at the time that the decision was mutual but you could feel that Plekanec didn’t want to retire.

The irony is that we missed “Da Playoffs” by 2 points. Perhaps keeping Plekanec could have given us the small edge we needed to secure those 2 points.
 
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At 40 years of age, Tomas plekanec is still playing in the Czech league for kladno. Michael frolik is there as well.

Of course, this is still a far cry from jagr longevity, but it's hard to believe that plekanec has been out of the nhl for about 5 years now and is still kicking.
He got divorced and remarried a tennis player who was rank 1 worldwide in doubles. She's retired and I'm assuming has plenty of free time to raise kids. I would guess fitness and sports are something that brought them together. If he's still passionate to play hockey and can help out his buddy Jagr I'm sure he'll play until his physically can't keep up.
 

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