Proposal: Forget a Shakeup. New York Rangers Fire Sale
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AirGut
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Hire Sather
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From a NYR perspective, this doesn't help and we'd be better off trading them separately. I really don't think either Vatrano or Zegras helps us, so what's the point in doing a 3 for 3 trade here? Also, Lacombe has a face only a mother can love, so with that, I'm out.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
GhostofYotesFan47
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Crouse, Hayton, Valimaki, 2025 2nd (UHC), and 2026 2nd (NYR) for Zibanejad (25%), Kreider, and Lindgren.
NYR get younger and adds a few picks, while decreasing cap. Wouldn't say they get better or worse by the deal.
UHC gets more experienced for a playoff push. Unfortunately, Zibanejad has a lot of time on that contract, might be manageable in the later years at $6.375m.
NYR get younger and adds a few picks, while decreasing cap. Wouldn't say they get better or worse by the deal.
UHC gets more experienced for a playoff push. Unfortunately, Zibanejad has a lot of time on that contract, might be manageable in the later years at $6.375m.
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Both have a NMC this season. Trocheck becomes a 12 team no trade list next season. So I don't see anything taking place unless both players waiver, or Montreal isn't on Trochecks list next season.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
I’d do it if Zibanejad would waive. Any chance one of the RD would be available though? I know Marino and Durzi are out for a while but when they come back you have Marino, Durzi, Kesselring, Lamoureux all on the right.
GhostofYotesFan47
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I'm not sure how BA would feel, but I personally have no interest in making a change to our right side currently. We really only have 1 decent RH prospect in Lavoie to go with those 4. We also haven't seen Marino in a Utah sweater, I'd think we'd want a chance to assess him before we make a decision there.
My hope was that Zib would be open to it with Kreider in the deal. My understanding is that they're bros.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
Understandable.
As far as Zibanejad waiving, who really knows for sure, I imagine having his pal involved in the trade could help facilitate Mika being willing to waive.
nope
LA wants him and will pay
Rs on short end of this stick but it is reworkable 'nuf to be made doable
Done
in a vacuum prefer to move Zib first
hold Kreid for now
reassess
but above deal works
good prop
BLONG7
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Would the owner let Drury, who created the mess, try to fix it?? Or is there a new GM in waiting?
John Mandalorian
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Wasn't this expression outdated like 8-10 years ago? People are still saying that where you live?
Bruh....what the hell is that
People are on some serious psychedelic shit on these forums.
It's clear to see why you are face of ridicule on this forum.
Bruuuhhh!!
So NYR give up:
A 1st Line Centre (retained) who has averaged a PPG in the last 5 years
A 1st Line LW who has scored 151 goals over the last 3 seasons in all games which is 5th in the NHL.
A top 4 dman who played a crucial role in getting is to 2x ECF and a Presidents Trophy.
Only to receive:
- 2x 2nd rounders
- A middle 6 winger
- A bottom 6 centre
- A bottom 4 defenseman
And the selling point is NYR lose salary and get younger? Come on man.
Fatass
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Well, the thread title does say, “Fire Sale”.
Trocheck should not be moved at all. Excellent player on an excellent contract.
It does, and I called out the stupidity of the thread in the first few posts of the thread.
The team can be fixed with a few moves.
- Trading Lindgren and bring in a top 4 LD to partner Fox.
- Bring in a top 6 RW as we haven't had one since Buch.
- Trade for a no nonsense shutdown bottom line dman to partner Jones.
The core of Kreider, Zibanejad, Panarin, Lafreniere & Trocheck can beat any team in the league when they are clicking. We just need to find a way to get that going again.
The dmen that were costing us are Lindgren and Trouba. 1 is gone and the other needs traded and replaced.
The team are in a deep dark hole just now and need a refresh to pick them up. Not a full fire sale.
I personally disagree.
Zibanejad currently couldn’t beat a newborn at arm wrestling. His NYR tenure is over, whether he gets moved or not. He likely can’t be moved because of his NMC (Father Christmas, please… grant me this one wish) but even if he stays he’s going to be playing 10 minutes at even strength going forward. His minutes have already been cut, he just plays the full 2 on the PP (despite also sucking there). He’s not going to magically rediscover his game here. Mayyyybe with a move, he’ll find motivation to prioritize his career, but in his currently comfortable position in NY, hockey seems like the lowest priority for him and he flat out blows.
Moreover, we’re gonna replace Lindgren with a top 4 D man, add a top 6 RW and add a 5/6 shutdown D without giving much up?
The expiration date passed. Kreider is hobbled and turning 34. Still very good at what he does as a net front presence and experienced veteran, but not capable of driving play at all anymore. Zib, whether it’s mental or physical, has completely imploded. He’s not going to rediscover his game in NY.
Trochek is fine; I think if the rest of the team weren’t being mutinous low effort prima donnas he would be a solid veteran with a good motor for the middle six, but he’s hardly a game breaker. Panarin’s still excellent, but he’s also not a carry the team in the playoffs type of talent. He hasn’t slowed down at all, but he also is likely about 10 more losses from asking for a trade at this point. I don’t think he gives a rat’s ass about loyalty to his teammates or is part of the toxic bromances like Zib/Kreider or Fox/Lindgren.
We have like 2 or 3 NHL D on the roster right now. Fox and Schneider. Miller if he bounces back. Jones, Ruhwedl, Mancini, Vaakanainen, Mackey, etc. are very literally AHL players.
Shesterkin and all of his best in the world, biggest contract for a goalie ever BS has a sub .900 sv% this year.
This team isn’t salvageable and even the moves you suggest would salvage them aren’t easily achieved. Let’s go find a top six winger, 3 legitimate NHL D, one of whom is at least a 2/3 level player. And change the entitled, whiny loser culture while we’re at it.
This roster is cooked. The individual players can all be effective elsewhere but within their overly comfortable country club environment they aren’t going to improve an ounce right now. They just got shutout by the only team in the league that still has single digit wins. They have zero pride, give zero effort and don’t deserve a tenth of the benefit of the doubt you’re giving them.
For the record, I really like you as a poster and I WISH you were correct. But my outlook on this team is FAR bleaker than yours. I think we need to tear it down to the studs. I’ve never seen this level of rot and disfunction in a pro sports team, ever. Ever.
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