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Brutananadilewski said:
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Bare-knuckle boxing is safer than using gloves, so why is it widely illegal? - Washington Examiner

History was made over the weekend when the first sanctioned, professional bare-knuckle boxing matches in the United States in 130 years were held in Wyoming. The event drew 2,000 fans and was possible since the state officially legalized the sport back in March. It is possible that this leads...
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The gloves are worn to protect the fighter's hands, meaning they can throw the same intense punch no matter the round, even punches to the head.

Make a fist and place it under your chin. Now, put on a MMA glove or a boxing glove and do the same. You will notice your fist now has more surface area, meaning that knockout blow can come easier AND, again, if you have the stamina, you can land serious murderous rights and left hooks from hell no matter when in the fight.
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I understand your point and it can be totally right but the faces I have seen from some bareknuckle lady fights just pushes the bar too far for me. I'm a big MMA fan but even in MMA I worry about some guys safety. I was 1000% against Chuck Liddel fighting for years. It seemed he got knocked out by a strong breeze.
 
NickyFotiu said:
I understand your point and it can be totally right but the faces I have seen from some bareknuckle lady fights just pushes the bar too far for me. I'm a big MMA fan but even in MMA I worry about some guys safety. I was 1000% against Chuck Liddel fighting for years. It seemed he got knocked out by a strong breeze.
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I'm not disputing that bare knuckle boxers get their face obliterated: that was the argument for disallowing it in the first place.

The jury is still out with regards to brain damage in this sport compared to boxing, but boxing has a sad one:



 
Brutananadilewski said:
I'm not disputing that bare knuckle boxers get their face obliterated: that was the argument for disallowing it in the first place.

The jury is still out with regards to brain damage in this sport compared to boxing, but boxing has a sad one:



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They say Boxing has the most CTE because after getting concussed, they get 10 seconds to shake it off, to just get concussed again. In MMA the fight comes to an end as the guy usually gets on top to submit or finish/ref stoppage.

Boxing, traditionally has had very had sparring which leads to more concussions. It's just brain trauma all year long.

A lot of the MMA elite have cut out sparring or do it very rarely.
 
Brutananadilewski said:
I'm not disputing that bare knuckle boxers get their face obliterated: that was the argument for disallowing it in the first place.

The jury is still out with regards to brain damage in this sport compared to boxing, but boxing has a sad one:



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I do not think any of them are totally safe. You have to just try to lower the risks. With MMA I'm glad guys can try to wrestle if they are in trouble. The NFL has experimented with crazy looking helmets to limit the risk. This weekend DJ took a cheap shot to his head. That stuff needs to stop.
 
Brutananadilewski said:
www.washingtonexaminer.com

Bare-knuckle boxing is safer than using gloves, so why is it widely illegal? - Washington Examiner

History was made over the weekend when the first sanctioned, professional bare-knuckle boxing matches in the United States in 130 years were held in Wyoming. The event drew 2,000 fans and was possible since the state officially legalized the sport back in March. It is possible that this leads...
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The gloves are worn to protect the fighter's hands, meaning they can throw the same intense punch no matter the round, even punches to the head.

Make a fist and place it under your chin. Now, put on a MMA glove or a boxing glove and do the same. You will notice your fist now has more surface area, meaning that knockout blow can come easier AND, again, if you have the stamina, you can land serious murderous rights and left hooks from hell no matter when in the fight.
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Not arguing, but this is very interesting from a physics perspective. Feel free to glaze over the below lol

Two laws of physics related to this: 1) pressure is inversely related to area of impact and 2) force is inversely related to the time of impact.

Meaning that as long as the provided strength behind the punch is the same, the greater surface area of of the glove/taped hands means the pressure of the blow is more 'dilute' due to being spread over a larger surface area. An example of this first rule is a sharpened pin with a miniscule surface area can break your skin easily, versus a metal pen which will require significantly more pressure. Second law of force/time, that the force of impact is inversely related to the time of impact, means that if the glove has more 'give' than a fist (I'm guessing it does, slightly) this increases the time of impact as compared to a bare knuckle. An example of this is that a real bullet will of course cause more damage than a rubber bullet because rubber smooshes (very scientific term) on impact ever so slightly increasing the time of impact. It's why we have airbags in cars, to increase the time of impact during a full stop collision using the airbags, as opposed to straight on face hitting the steering wheel. Soft things don't hurt not because they're just 'soft', but because the softness leads to an increased time of impact if that makes any sense lol.

Obviously with regard to a punch and brain damage (concussed/knocked out), the greater surface area of impact provided by gloves means more blows landed versus glancing/missed, which I would imagine more than compensates for the slighter lower overall pressure and force of each punch.

And regarding faces beaten to a pulp without gloves, it would be interesting to see the overall brain damage comparison. It could be faces being so badly beaten cause the fighter to bow out before the brain receives as much damage as one would see in a gloved fight.
 
NickyFotiu said:
As an outsider you guys should not wait long. You already have a playoff caliber defense and good WR. I do not think I would waste time developing a QB because that stuff can change in 2 years. You fix your Oline and get David Carr and you will be in business next season.
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I agree. QB is the main issue that needs to get resolved.

I see Carr as like the Kirk Cousins of this FA QB class. He'll bring stability to the position if nothing else (top 15-20 QB play).
 
Rangerfan4life90 said:
I agree. QB is the main issue that needs to get resolved.

I see Carr as like the Kirk Cousins of this FA QB class. He'll bring stability to the position if nothing else (top 15-20 QB play).
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Both of them are top 15 in my mind. The thing that should not be overlooked is Carr is not a young kid anymore. I think he will be 32 soon.

Anyone think the Jets will make an offer for DJ?
 
smoneil said:
In a 2-possession game, where the running game had been holding its own, Lafleur only called 4 rushing plays in the entire second half (3 of which were predictable 1st down runs).

While I attribute the loss more to Lafleur than White, White's record as a starter is now down to 2-5. In the 5 losses, he has thrown 1 touchdown and TEN interceptions. The talk about Mike White as the future at QB should be completely dead at this point.

2023/2024 season plan: Go OL, run stuffer, and project QB in rounds 1-3 (no particular order--best available from that group). Sign a solid vet QB (maybe Garoppolo, maybe Geno) and a good safety in UFA. Draft or sign a new punter. Fire Lafleur and possibly Boyer and replace them with veteran coaches (particularly at OC--I want someone who can take over for Saleh mid season if Saleh can't get the team going). Inform Saleh and Ulbrich that their seats are officially hot. Bring in a specialist to work with Wilson and the new project QB. Inform Wilson that he should expect to hold a clipboard and learn for at least one season. If he has a problem with that, move him. The new project QB is there to push him/replace him if he can't improve.
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The problem with Zach holding a clipboard for his 3rd season is that you have to decide on picking up the 5th year option before the start of his 4th season. So to me that means if Zach is not your starter you have to trade him.
 
sbjnyc said:
The problem with Zach holding a clipboard for his 3rd season is that you have to decide on picking up the 5th year option before the start of his 4th season. So to me that means if Zach is not your starter you have to trade him.
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Honestly, I'd play it by ear. If they like a developmental QB in the draft, snag him and move Wilson. If they don't, hand Wilson the clipboard and assess him through the year and whatever scrap time he can get during the season. I'm less "team Wilson" and more "team you develop quarterbacks slowly/deliberately if you want them to be any good."
 
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bro i don't care if you used the 2nd overall on him last year the kid just doesn't have it, move on. And move on from JD too while you're at it, dude has made 3 good picks in 3 years on the job and a whole lot of terrible ones.
 
KirkAlbuquerque said:
bro i don't care if you used the 2nd overall on him last year the kid just doesn't have it, move on. And move on from JD too while you're at it, dude has made 3 good picks in 3 years on the job and a whole lot of terrible ones.
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Douglas just had the best offseason of any team last year. He easily had the best draft and his signings helped make this defense a real force most of the year.

Injuries have ripped this team apart. Losing Hall and three offensive lineman killed this team. And then throw in quinnin williams and the defense took a big hit.


But yeah, wilson isnt the answer it looks like. Unfortunately we wont be in a draft position to pick a top QB most likely. So not sure where we need to turn.
 
RangerBlues said:
Amazing that anything that brings into question his vaccine status is being suppressed and federal authorities are "closely monitoring" the situation.
I want to vomit!
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The vaccine is the cause for all of the world's problems.

This happens 20-40 times a year since forever when kids unluckily get hit in the chest between heart beats. It is a known medical condition and a very scary one at that. Has the federal government been suppressing the covid vaccine as the cause for this since the 90's? Maybe it's all the vaccines we take that have increased the average life span by 40 years? Maybe it's the fluoride in the water? (Though I personally believe the fluoride is for emotional subservience of the population and not to kill us).
 
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Ruggs225 said:
Douglas just had the best offseason of any team last year. He easily had the best draft and his signings helped make this defense a real force most of the year.

Injuries have ripped this team apart. Losing Hall and three offensive lineman killed this team. And then throw in quinnin williams and the defense took a big hit.


But yeah, wilson isnt the answer it looks like. Unfortunately we wont be in a draft position to pick a top QB most likely. So not sure where we need to turn.
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I’m fine with using top picks on qbs… they are such a crapshoot. Take a guy that falls down the draft board and get some value.
 
Tom Seaver said:
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Jets back QB Wilson 'through hell or high water'

Jets head coach Robert Saleh said the team will stand by embattled quarterback Zach Wilson "through hell or high water" in an effort to maximize his potential.
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:rolleyes: Yeah, they'll stick with him ... unless they get a better QB next season.
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I think he'll remain until they finally fix the offensive line......I don't think anyone one new will drastically change their outlook. Without a strong OL and a running game, you're not going to win in the NFL no matter who the QB is.
 
RangerBlues said:
Amazing that anything that brings into question his vaccine status is being suppressed and federal authorities are "closely monitoring" the situation.
I want to vomit!
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Yeah man that’s it. Not the fact that virtually every cardiologist who’s been asked says he was likely hit in the sweet spot of his heart beats. The Feds are sending sleeper agents to assassinate people from speaking the truth about a football player you didn’t know existed before Monday.
 
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Did he get popped in the chest the right way-no questions
did he take a few too many red bulls-no questions
did he have an underlying condition-no questions
Question the vaccine-call the feds and ! fact check warnings.
"every cardioligiost"
Whatever
 
RangerBlues said:
Did he get popped in the chest the right way-no questions
did he take a few too many red bulls-no questions
did he have an underlying condition-no questions
Question the vaccine-call the feds and ! fact check warnings.
"every cardioligiost"
Whatever
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Check yourself into a hospital lol. This reads like a brain hemorrhage.
 
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Tyler Huntley is the AFC's 4th Pro-Bowl alternate. I need to get a life. The Pro-Bowl is now a flag football and skills competition. I'm not kidding.
 
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