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Guess it doesn't seem likely but I heard this take from somewhere today and don't mind it if the cost would be cheap.

What about Winston? Saints have 3qbs ATM. They would probably let him go. I'm sure he'd be better than Wilson.

Rush could also be an option though Cowboys are in win now mode so maybe not.
 
To put things into perspective, the Jets have $10M in cap space and Mike White gets paid $8M. Only way the Jets are going to materially improve at QB this season is by trade, but no one is trading starter level QBs right now. Maybe after the bye, and even then the QB will need a few weeks to learn the playbook.
 
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Man in the last 7 seasons Chad Henne has thrown 61 passes. And then in 2024 he only threw 78. What would be the point?
 
will1066 said:
I have it on good authority that Wilson's wristband playbook is actually the menu at the Wendy's on Meadowlands Parkway
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Double Double....Dave's Double, Check check, spicy nugs, check baconator, Frooooosty hut hut

Oh and food for thought. Vinny Testaverde tore his Achilles in week one at 36 years old. He missed the rest of the year but started all 16 games the following year. His last full 16 game season was at age 41.
 
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NFL GDT: - Week 1

But, honestly, unless you have a schedule like Seattle does at Lumen where there 5 soccer matches and 25 other non sporting events during the NFL season, and for teams like NY, NE, Cincy, Car, Ten, they can have grass given that based on the scheduled events from Sept to Jan, it's all football...
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Waller won't practice one day each week for the entire season per Daboll. Managing reps.

W. Robinson might play on Sun, but not 100% clear right now.
 
They need to bring in a vet either way, but there's not much out there who has the talent to take the Jets to the next level. Wilson has the talent. He just needs to address the issues with his performance.

The game plan should be this:

-Staple Hackett and Rodgers to Wilson's side. Rodgers is now the highest paid QB coach in the league.

-For the first ~third of the season, run the Wilson game plan from the pre-season. Quick, short throws. Playing it safe and relying on the run. The goal should be to not LOSE the game.

-After that, once he is comfortable again with basic fundamentals, start mixing in more of the plays that got him drafted. Work on his decision making. When should he go for the big play vs. the safe play.

Ultimately, it's the same plan that was in place before Rodgers got hurt, but now he'll be working on it on the field rather than behind the scenes. If it doesn't work it doesn't work, but it has a better chance of working than any of the realistic options out there for a new QB.

I'll also say that the team reacted FAR better to the whole thing than they did last year (with the childish campaigning around Mike White who, for those who still think he's good, had an atrocious pre-season). Garrett Wilson was giving credit to Zach for rallying the team at halftime. Zach Wilson was giving all the credit for the TD to Garrett Wilson. Everyone on the team was giving credit to each other, and that's the kind of culture that wins games.
 
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Waller won't practice one day each week for the entire season per Daboll. Managing reps.

W. Robinson might play on Sun, but not 100% clear right now.
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If I'm the Giants I use 6 linemen in a tight formation till we learn how to block.
Go 6 linemen -2WR-QB-RB-TE
Go 6 linemen-2WR-2TE-QB

If that doesn't work I would do the opposite. 5 receivers all spread out and only a 2-3 step drop and then pass for DJ.

Problem that nobody is mentioning is our rookie center was snapping the ball at DJ's knee level at times. So DJ has to look down bend down and get the ball. By the time DJ got it and looked up Glow had let a Cowboy in on some plays.
 
Chalfdiggity3 said:
Give me Winston, brisset or heinicke for a late 3rd day pick
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It would take more to pry those guys, no ones helping the jets and throwing them away for a 7th round pick.

Plus not sure if these or any of the other names are even a noteworthy upgrade on Wilson, they all have their own flaws. Seems like he's gonna be the guy.

Most (and it's not saying much) intruiging option to me is Minshew. IND has 3 Qb's on active roster, including Ehlinger behind AR15 but i don't think they'd trade him.

There was also a report that Colts were asking for Jaylen Waddle from MIA in Jonathan Taylor trade talks (lol).....so who knows what they'd request from the jets anyway.
 
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Best case Jets get to 2-4 or 3-3 at the bye, the schedule is brutal. They aren’t winning the Dallas, Philly or KC games, might not have won them with Rodgers anyways.

Pats looked very good last week, Zach was horrendous in both games vs their great defense.

Basically have to hope they can play a game like they did at NE last year where the defense gave up nothing, and hope for anything better from Zach.

The Broncos game will be a race to 17 points.

Get to 2-4 or 3-3 at the bye, and can reassess at QB, teams will probably be more willing to trade by week 7.
 
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Filthy Dangles said:
It would take more to pry those guys, no ones helping the jets and throwing them away for a 7th round pick.

Plus not sure if these or any of the other names are even a noteworthy upgrade on Wilson, they all have their own flaws. Seems like he's gonna be the guy.

Most (and it's not saying much) intruiging option to me is Minshew. IND has 3 Qb's on active roster, including Ehlinger behind AR15 but i don't think they'd trade him.

There was also a report that Colts were asking for Jaylen Waddle from MIA in Jonathan Taylor trade talks (lol).....so who knows what they'd request from the jets anyway.
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I could see Minshew being a solid option if the price is low. He's UFA after this year, so if the plan is to roll it back with Rodgers next season, it won't be an issue. His cap his is also easy to accommodate. My one worry is that the big knock on Minshew is that he holds on to the ball way too long, and with out OL issues, that could be a big concern.
 
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There is a chance that Zach will play better than some people expect. He is still a young player. Last season may have been the bottom not the top.

Also the Jets should be able to win 6 or more games alone just with their defense, running backs and WR.
 
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Filthy Dangles said:
It would take more to pry those guys, no ones helping the jets and throwing them away for a 7th round pick.

Plus not sure if these or any of the other names are even a noteworthy upgrade on Wilson, they all have their own flaws. Seems like he's gonna be the guy.

Most (and it's not saying much) intruiging option to me is Minshew. IND has 3 Qb's on active roster, including Ehlinger behind AR15 but i don't think they'd trade him.

There was also a report that Colts were asking for Jaylen Waddle from MIA in Jonathan Taylor trade talks (lol).....so who knows what they'd request from the jets anyway.
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jacoby brisset, jameison winston and others are clear upgrades over Wilson. Stop acting like Wilson is anything but bad. Brissett played extremely well for the browns and helped them score points. Something that Wilson does none of. Then Winston yes he’s turnover prone but atleast he can get the ball into our playmakers hands and stop people from loading the box on us abd every play isn’t a run play. These are guys that we can pay a team a 5th round pick for and are clear upgrades over what Wilson is.
 
Chalfdiggity3 said:
jacoby brisset, jameison winston and others are clear upgrades over Wilson. Stop acting like Wilson is anything but bad. Brissett played extremely well for the browns and helped them score points. Something that Wilson does none of. Then Winston yes he’s turnover prone but atleast he can get the ball into our playmakers hands and stop people from loading the box on us abd every play isn’t a run play. These are guys that we can pay a team a 5th round pick for and are clear upgrades over what Wilson is.
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I just don't see how any team in week two of an NFL season is going to trade their backup QB. Why not, well they could just look at the Jets situation as to why not. If Sam Howell gets hurt or proves ineffective, who are the Commanders going to have come in at QB? The Saints? I don't think they want to use Hill as a true QB and it's the reason why Winston is there in the first place.

Maybe at the trade deadline after week 5 if a team is sitting on one or no wins??? I dunno.
 
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