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Machinehead said:
I never got this whole thing.

The Jets had one year where they were *checks notes* 7-10, and they thought a 39 year old coming off of a 91 QBR was going to do what, exactly? Get them over the hump?

They were never even at the hump.
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I hated that trade from the beginning. Just a mess of an organization. Trying to always find a quick fix
 
Machinehead said:
I never got this whole thing.

The Jets had one year where they were *checks notes* 7-10, and they thought a 39 year old coming off of a 91 QBR was going to do what, exactly? Get them over the hump?

They were never even at the hump.
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Disagree. They were there and the Jets just decided over this offseason to strip down the defense (mainly on the defensive line) and Greg The Leg just declined out of nowhere after an all-pro year in 2023.

Hell, with a competent kicker, they'd have at least 2 more wins than they do now.
 
Machinehead said:
I never got this whole thing.

The Jets had one year where they were *checks notes* 7-10, and they thought a 39 year old coming off of a 91 QBR was going to do what, exactly? Get them over the hump?

They were never even at the hump.
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I mean I don't think it was crazy to look at what that team had going for it and think that the pieces were there for a top QB to take them to be a contender.

Thinking that Rodgers was going to be the right one (or that the Jets are ever allowed to have the right one) is another story.
 
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Machinehead said:
I never got this whole thing.

The Jets had one year where they were *checks notes* 7-10, and they thought a 39 year old coming off of a 91 QBR was going to do what, exactly? Get them over the hump?

They were never even at the hump.
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Records are sometimes deceiving. They had a top 10 defense. Maybe even top 5 on defense. They also have a top 10 WR imo. Breece Hall is a weapon. Their line has been poor and the rest of parts are not adding up. They do have legit probowlers on offense and defense. I do think they have some guys that may have attitude issues. Ditto for my Giants. Losing so many 1 score games tells me they have the guys to win but its something else on that team that is the problem. That talented a team had no business losing to NE. None.
 
Machinehead said:
I never got this whole thing.

The Jets had one year where they were *checks notes* 7-10, and they thought a 39 year old coming off of a 91 QBR was going to do what, exactly? Get them over the hump?

They were never even at the hump.
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Honestly I disagree. Going 7-10 with one of the worst QBs in the NFL and upgrading to Rodgers makes a lot of sense to me. Even if Rodgers was merely average I can see the vision. I really do get it.

The problem is he tore his Achilles 10 seconds into the season and pretty much ended the “era” right then and there.
 
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Bob Richards said:
Honestly I disagree. Going 7-10 with one of the worst QBs in the NFL and upgrading to Rodgers makes a lot of sense to me. Even if Rodgers was merely average I can see the vision. I really do get it.

The problem is he tore his Achilles 10 seconds into the season and pretty much ended the “era” right then and there.
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They also should have found a way to upgrade the Oline instead of getting Reddick. Rodgers might get mad but if I'm them I start stretching out the offensive sets and then giving Breece Hall a chance to break some 30-50 yard runs against some stretched out defenses. Could also try it via the pass. I view Hall and Wilson as legit game breaking threats. If I could turn the Evan Neal pick back in for Garret Wilson I would be thrilled beyond belief.
 
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Machinehead said:
I never got this whole thing.

The Jets had one year where they were *checks notes* 7-10, and they thought a 39 year old coming off of a 91 QBR was going to do what, exactly? Get them over the hump?

They were never even at the hump.
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Two years ago they were talking about this 7-10 like it was a juggernaut. Really became a hater then. It was insufferable.
 
LionsHeart said:
I’ll take them seriously again if they string some wins together.
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I'm rooting against them as a Giants fan but I do respect their high end talent. If they miss the playoffs this season they could turn it around fast.
 
Even as a Giants fan, I don't root against the Jets. Only time I even disliked them was during the Rex Ryan Era when he went out of his way to try and shit on the Giants.

At this point, NYC football is in such a sorry state, I'd take either team having a little success. Rodgers is a very unlikable person, though. No real issues with the rest of the roster, though.
 
Beer League Sniper said:
Even as a Giants fan, I don't root against the Jets. Only time I even disliked them was during the Rex Ryan Era when he went out of his way to try and shit on the Giants.

At this point, NYC football is in such a sorry state, I'd take either team having a little success. Rodgers is a very unlikable person, though. No real issues with the rest of the roster, though.
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Rogers is in a perpetual WTF moment.
 
I also do not root against the Jets. I have no reason to. So many friends in my life are Jets fans and it'd be cool to see them happy for once lmfao.

Their awfulness does not alleviate my team's awfulness in anyway. Maybe we should all get together and set fire to MetLife.
 
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I'm old school when it comes to NY sports.

85% of the time (not always)

1. Root for Yanks and anyone playing the Mets.

2. Root for Giants and anyone playing the Jets.

3. Root for the Rangers and anyone playing Isles, Devils, and Flyers.
 
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Bob Richards said:
Honestly I disagree. Going 7-10 with one of the worst QBs in the NFL and upgrading to Rodgers makes a lot of sense to me. Even if Rodgers was merely average I can see the vision. I really do get it.

The problem is he tore his Achilles 10 seconds into the season and pretty much ended the “era” right then and there.
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There are multiple things that brought this down and coaching was the #1 thing that sets a chain reaction.

Your coach should never let your team wear the shirt of the backup QB as soon as he switches to the starter because of poor play. Injury? I can see it as a rallying point. It all began there with Wilson and Mike White and it showed everyone that the inmates ran the asylum.

Next was management, and even though Douglas has made some great picks, there are too many other flaws. He never fixed the OL and never got the QB situation correct. Tried to address both and failed mainly because the OL couldn't block.

Went with a nearly entire staff in year 1 at their new job. No veteran coordinator for a rookie coach to lean on. It showed in player management the most.

And now you've got a talented roster without a coaching staff to get the most out of them. The issue wasn't just Saleh, it was the whole group, from top to bottom.

And now it was basically get Rodgers whoever he wants. The team needs a cleanse and unfortunately it probably means some of these talented guys do leave, but it's not going to work.

A real cleanse would be Woody Johnson selling the team, but I don't think that will be on the table anytime soon.
 
It's easy to make goodmpicks when you're drafting at the top. JDs problem was the rounds after the 2nd. You have to be successful in drafting and developing picks from the later rounds and that just hasn't happened with the jets.
JimmyG89 said:
There are multiple things that brought this down and coaching was the #1 thing that sets a chain reaction.

Your coach should never let your team wear the shirt of the backup QB as soon as he switches to the starter because of poor play. Injury? I can see it as a rallying point. It all began there with Wilson and Mike White and it showed everyone that the inmates ran the asylum.

Next was management, and even though Douglas has made some great picks, there are too many other flaws. He never fixed the OL and never got the QB situation correct. Tried to address both and failed mainly because the OL couldn't block.

Went with a nearly entire staff in year 1 at their new job. No veteran coordinator for a rookie coach to lean on. It showed in player management the most.

And now you've got a talented roster without a coaching staff to get the most out of them. The issue wasn't just Saleh, it was the whole group, from top to bottom.

And now it was basically get Rodgers whoever he wants. The team needs a cleanse and unfortunately it probably means some of these talented guys do leave, but it's not going to work.

A real cleanse would be Woody Johnson selling the team, but I don't think that will be on the table anytime soon.
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Really respect Tomlins old school approach to dominating in effort in the trenches.

Okereke and McFadden need to find a way to plug some of these massive rushing holes.
 
Nubin has been good but not usually a great sign when your rookie safety is your top tackler.
 
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