OT: Football thread (2024 season)

NickyFotiu

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Oh, hell no!

They can't adjust for the life of them, are oblivious to where the marker is, can't routinely come down with the rock.

Then add in a QB like Jones...just...burn it down.
A unspoken problem that nobody mentions is Nabors has dropped 2 huge possibly game deciding balls. It may be 3 if going back to preseason. I know everyone luvs the kid but we could have 3 wins if he doesn't drop 2 key balls in his hands.
 

nyr2k2

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My thing with Rodgers and mobility has nothing to do with thinking he needs to be Lamar Jackson. When I grew up, Randall Cunningham was a unicorn and mobile QBs were like Steve Young.

Rodgers though used to be a fairly mobile guy who could get himself out of the pocket and make throws on the move. I'm not talking about the guy dodging several tacklers and sprinting 50 yards down the sideline. Now it feels like he still wants to be that guy who gets outside the tackles and makes a throw down field, but his accuracy in doing so doesn't seem good. That's great that he can run 8 yards on a bootleg but it's not what I'm talking about.
 

Brutananadilewski

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A unspoken problem that nobody mentions is Nabors has dropped 2 huge possibly game deciding balls. It may be 3 if going back to preseason. I know everyone luvs the kid but we could have 3 wins if he doesn't drop 2 key balls in his hands.

The rookie is the one that is excelling, and you can't blame him for the second one: the one that left him concussed.

It shouldn't be coming down to the wire, Jones' arm is a downgrade compared to Eli, him throwing a bomb downfield was/is as rare as Eli picking up 10 yards on the run himself, and Jones isn't as mobile this season.

Slayton, 5 seasons with this team, and he has 19 TDs to show for it. Also not a coincidence that his best year (Rookie year) came in Eli's final year.
 

NickyFotiu

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The rookie is the one that is excelling, and you can't blame him for the second one: the one that left him concussed.

It shouldn't be coming down to the wire, Jones' arm is a downgrade compared to Eli, him throwing a bomb downfield was/is as rare as Eli picking up 10 yards on the run himself, and Jones isn't as mobile this season.

Slayton, 5 seasons with this team, and he has 19 TDs to show for it. Also not a coincidence that his best year (Rookie year) came in Eli's final year.
Blame is a tough word but Plaxico used to say if I get my hands on it it should be caught. If Nabors didn't get his feet down Id understand but why did he drop the ball in his hands?
 

NickyFotiu

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Nabors got rocked while trying to reel it in.

What are Slayton's and Hyatt's excuses?
Wandale also had a big drop. Not only would it have been a first down but a possible TD.

I dont remember Nabors getting hit hard on that drop. I felt he may have actually got the concussion earlier in the game. I thought the drop happened on his way down to the ground. I could be wrong though.
 

Bob Richards

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I dont remember Nabors getting hit hard on that drop. I felt he may have actually got the concussion earlier in the game. I thought the drop happened on his way down to the ground. I could be wrong though.

He got knocked out cold on that play. He KO'd himself when he tried to toe tap the sideline and hit his head on the ground.
 

NickyFotiu

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He got knocked out cold on that play. He KO'd himself when he tried to toe tap the sideline and hit his head on the ground.
Well when I said I don't remember him being hit hard on that play I was speaking about by another player. Im just going by memory. Id have to see a replay. Much earlier in the game he took a really hard hit to the head. I expected then to pull him from the game to the tent. I wouldn't be shocked if he got his bell rung on the earlier play.
 

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Hopefully the Mets win a game tomorrow, and we get both locals in the playoffs at least for a week.

Then the Rangers get going soon after.

This football season feels like one big lingering fart from the locals.
 

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Unless you're going to pretend like you have a high powered rifle and gun down the opposing sideline, they really gotta stop calling that shit. He did the equivalent of a "pew pew!" directed at no one. Come the f*** on. I really hate the NFL, honestly.

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sbjnyc

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Rodgers is immobile? He was moving all around the pocket this and last week. Even had a designed rollout this week. This reads like a generic post about an old player. Mobility isn't Lamar Jackson or nothing. Until recent years almost all the QBs were relatively immobile. Brady and Manning just stood in the pocket and slid around to avoid pressure. They weren't out there putting up big runs. I haven't seen anything different from Rodgers.

The takes on this game are obviously going to be out of hand. It's all going to get blamed on the coaching staff which is the usual nonsense blame. "They had 10 days and this is the gameplan they came up with?" Well, yea, I don't think in their 10 days of preparations they were expecting that it would rain for almost the entire game. Same for the penalties. It's the coaches staffs fault that McDonald lined up offside twice? Like he doesn't know better? It's the coaching staff's fault that Lazard held on that screen play? It's their fault that he was given a (soft) unsportsmanlike conduct penalty? It's on the players and it's execution. (Not saying the coaching staff is good or anything).

Maybe they could have run Allen on the 1 but I didn't really think Allen was significantly better than Hall or anything today. Obviously, the results were better, but Hall was hit in the backfield a bunch and on Allen's few decent runs the o-line just did a better job.

There's been huge upsets nonstop these first four weeks. It's not like this is anything new.

I agree that Rodgers isn't immobile except later in the game when his knee seemed to be bothering him. My biggest problem with Saleh is that he never holds his players accountable for stupid penalties which always seem to cost them. The occasional false start or hold is one thing but it has been endemic with the Jets under Saleh. What makes it worse is that with the anemic offenses the Jets have had in prior years the penalties are that much harder to overcome.

Well, for one, Hall had a 1 yard TD run last week and a 3 yard TD run in W1 so it doesn't seem like he is incapable of succeeding in short yardage roles.

I think the better question to ask, if you want to get into coaching, is why are they putting a linebacker on the field at fullback?
Hall couldn't keep his feet in the rain. How many times did he go down with little or even no contact? What he did in prior weeks with better weather is irrelevant. They just needed to shove a guy down their throat 4 times and if you don't score you put a rookie QB 1st and 10 from his own 1. They drafted Allen as a power runner specifically for that situation.
 

Bob Richards

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Kirk Cuzzer with 500 yards and 4 TDs , maybe offense isn’t quite dead

On a thursday game too. They should make context stats for stuff like that like how baseball does for ballparks, league environment, etc.

Throwing for 500 yards on a Thursday is like throwing for 1200 yards on Sunday lmao
 

NickyFotiu

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All the talk about the Giants QB has really saved Banks. Banks has been a huge disappointment in the first 4 games. Qbs have over a 130 passer rating when throwing to his man.
 

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