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I still suspect we'll see the old, frustrating Necas again at some point this season, but it'd sure be fun if we didn't. I feel like we've seen that amazing possession that ended in a goal end in a turnover the other way for a goal so many times. Is everything just going his way right now or has he somehow significantly improved for good? Time will tell.
I don’t know that the difference from last year is that huge. I think no small part of it is Robinson as a linemate and the featured spot on pp1 and 3v3 with Aho and Ghost. He’s had great starts before so it’s not surprising he’s hot again which plays to your point of questioning if he’s going to keep it up. I do see him making better passes after he hits the blue line but I think that’s Robinson and occasionally KK getting into better passing lanes. You can argue Necas has figured out the timing of going lateral and letting these guys catch up to him better. He’s always been clutch and has always made big plays late in games.

When he has linemates he reads well he moves the puck instead of keeping it a little more. I think because we’re less deep with scorers he’s been asked to step it up and being given leash to go create….and he’s running with it. If he stays healthy I think we’ll see his best season even if his lines cools 5v5 just because of the pp1 and OT duties.

The guys are deferring to him in the o zone more than I’ve seen in other years. His teammates trust him more (especially the dmen at the point) and it’s fun to watch. He’s happiest when he’s carrying the puck.
 

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I only caught about 1/2 the game last night. On the season, I haven't seen all the games. Probably about 1/2 of their total ice time.

I could be way off base here given the sample size I've seen. It seems like when the Canes are on top of their game, Pyotr is much more in control and more "calm" and when the Canes are off their game and playing more loosely, he's more chaotic.

I guess that somewhat makes sense in that he has to try to do more when the Canes play loose in front of him, but that also amplifies the issue. Freddie is more of a calming, stable entity back there when he's healthy, which unfortunately, is the issue.

Not a complaint, as they continue to win. It's just an observation and I was wondering if it was valid, or just due to a small sample size I've seen.
 
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I only caught about 1/2 the game last night. On the season and on the season, I haven't seen all the games. Probably about 1/2 of their total ice time.

I could be way off base here given the sample size I've seen. It seems like when the Canes are on top of their game, Pyotr is much more in control and more "calm" and when the Canes are off their game and playing more loosely, he's more chaotic.

I guess that somewhat makes sense in that he has to try to do more when the Canes play loose in front of him, but that also amplifies the issue. Freddie is more of a calming, stable entity back there when he's healthy, which unfortunately, is the issue.

Not a complaint, as they continue to win. It's just an observation and I was wondering if it was valid, or just due to a small sample size I've seen.
I think just small sample size last night. I wouldn't read too much into that game as that was quite possibly the worst ice I've seen at PNC where a game was still played. In fact not sure the ice from the postponed Detroit game would have been worse than last night. Too many bad bounces, cases of the puck moving slower than expected (both teams were overskating it badly most of the game) and guys losing their edge for no reason (see the Chatty pre-game snow fail) all over the place.
 

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Dude Staal had that first goal of the season and now through 11 games has 1+0=1 on the year lmao

Honestly, I feel so bad for Jarvis. The guy puts up 30 goals last year and is relegated to the old folks home.

The problem is that you can't touch the 2nd line, because it's working so well, and while the 1st is kind of meh right now, the player Jarvis would replace on that line is the only one scoring the goals.
 
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Honestly, I feel so bad for Jarvis. The guy puts up 30 goals last year and is relegated to the old folks home.

The problem is that you can't touch the 2nd line, because it's working so well, and while the 1st is kind of meh right now, the player Jarvis would replace on that line is the only one scoring the goals.

The good news is he's locked in, so this isn't a case where it's affecting his paycheck a la Necas.
 

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The good news is he's locked in, so this isn't a case where it's affecting his paycheck a la Necas.

True, but I can’t imagine it’s where Jarvis would want to be in the lineup. He’ll do it, and do it well, because he’s a good soldier, but man, it’s a baffling decision.

But the team is winning games, and in the end, that’s all that matters.
 
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True, but I can’t imagine it’s where Jarvis would want to be in the lineup. He’ll do it, and do it well, because he’s a good soldier, but man, it’s a baffling decision.

But the team is winning games, and in the end, that’s all that matters.

Honestly, with the way the "4th" line is playing, swap Jarvis and Carrier. I'm sure that's not where Jarvis "wants" to play either, but him with Drury and Blake would be super fun.
 
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Don’t swap a thing until we lose!

I think I’d change all the lines then. Necas/Robinson and Staal/Martinook being the only for sure pairings. I’d try Aho with Necas/Rob and KK with Svech/Jarvy which screws jr.
 
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Of the 80 lines in the NHL with 50 minutes of ice time together or more, the line of Martinook-Staal-Jarvis has the best xGF% in the NHL. #2? McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman. #3? Svech-Aho-Jarvis. Now, I get that they struggle to finish so xG does not equal goals, but they are still 28th / 80 in GF%. Only Necas/KK/Robinson are better ranked at #19.

Martinook-Staal-Jarvis are dominating possession when they are on the ice 5v5 and giving up only 0.92 goals / 60 minutes of 5v5 ice time.

I do think that the line would have almost the same results if Carrier was on it vs. Jarvis though, so I agree with the sentiment that his scoring is taking a hit because of it. Until they lose though, I don't see it changing.
 

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