Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade for Erik Johnson. 2024 4th round pick to Buffalo

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[LegionOfGloom]

The sentiment that I get here is that a lot of you won't patch your own roof because you have plans to build a new house in 4 years.

It's more like we don't reupholster a car that's on it's way to the scrapyard.

 

[Ironmanrulez]

No, it's because some people here are f***ing idiots. You AREN'T clear-eyed. The ones with the shit-colored glasses are as off-base as the ones with the rose-colored glasses.

i think youre the only one with clear eyes! Congratz!

 

[mercury]

i think youre the only one with clear eyes! Congratz!

I am not biased one way or the other. I take every move or non-move on its own merits. Try it sometime. You may look less like a whiner and more like a knowledgeable fan.

 

[ugiswrong]

After six to seven minutes of post game interview analysis of Erik Johnson, he kind of sounds like the biggest player coach you could, probably not hope for. He’ll get a one year deal this summer to replace Staal and there will be groaning and arguments and in the end it won’t matter much

 

[Juicy Pop]

It's more like we don't reupholster a car that's on it's way to the scrapyard.

I think you do if it costs you a $5 lottery ticket, takes no time at all and makes the interior slightly less dreadful to sit in.

 

[Hextallent63]

Sure but that doesn't change the fact that whatever it costs to acquire that pick will be more valuable than the next six weeks of negative play that Johnson is highly likely to deliver.

True.

 

[freakydallas13]

You guys are over the top. Some of you are downright out of touch with reality. If you post something stupid, people get to tell you it's stupid.

What you're saying is stupid.

I can say that without whining about it constantly.

 

[Magua]

A 4th right now means practically nothing given how early this team is in the rebuild.

A 4th never means nothing -- and rebuilding teams don't trade 4ths for 36 year old cooked stop gap 6/7D at the deadline for a playoff race -- but where I will push back is: I don't think they're early in the rebuild; I think it's winding down. The only guy they moved, which everyone points to as a rebuild move, they very much tried to re-sign! They've already told us they don't plan on drafting high again and won't spend $11-12MM on a single player. Briere's own words: "Well, we did draft high the last two years. [...] Colorado has three or four high-end guys. We’re not going to be built that way. So depth will be important to us."

They speak out both sides of their mouth sometimes, but I'm struggling to see what other assets they're going to acquire. They don't want to sell anyone, not even 30 year olds. They don't plan on drafting high. If they trade for a mid-20s player with a 1st and 2nd, I think that will put the kibosh on it. They think the Culture™ they've built is the crux of the rebuild -- throw in one Michkov-- and the talent at hand will rise to meet it.

 

[Ironmanrulez]

I am not biased one way or the other. I take every move or non-move on its own merits. Try it sometime. You may look less like a whiner and more like a knowledgeable fan.

i will never reach your lvl!

 

[FLYguy3911]

The burners are out.

 

[Magua]

The fringes matter. Lol.
This is why the flyers have no high end talent. Not waiver wires and 4th round picks.

Patrick over Makar.
O’Brien over Miller.
Ratclffe (traded up for) over Robertson.

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They needed a 3+4 to even trade up to 35th to select Robertson, so there's goes that insightful point about 4ths not mattering. You're just determining arbitrarily when they matter. I'm laughing complaining about the fringe and citing K'Andre Miller as the inflection point to changing the Flyers entire fortune. No f***ing shit the Flyers should probably try to get top 5-10 picks, but THEY don't want to. So, yes, the fringe moves matter even more now. No one is pretending this 4th round pick is the One Pick to Rule Them All.

 

[Jettany]

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They needed a 3+4 to even trade up to 35th to select Robertson, so there's goes that insightful point about 4ths not mattering. I'm laughing complaining about the fringe and citing K'Andre Miller as a key piece to changing the Flyers entire fortune. No f***ing shit the Flyers should probably try to get top 5-10 picks, but THEY don't want to. So, yes, the fringe moves matter even more now.

Just pointing out he was a pretty obvious pick over Jay O’Brien in the first round of the nhl draft. Oh and where did I state 4th round picks don’t matter? A very insightful spin.

I don’t know maybe I’m wrong but a first pair of Makar and Miller is a tad better than 2 players not in the NHL.

To crap on Miller as changing the Flyers entire future (never stated, but you go on) while you babble about 4th round picks is a gem. I stand corrected.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

K’Andre Miller is a solid NHLer, but it remains deeply weird to me how a subsection of this fanbase obsesses over him more than Rangers fans do.

At least the Patrick stuff is pining for stars.

 

[Magua]

Makar is my safe word.

 

[trostol]

People really really need to stop bringing up Makar...hecwould never...EVER be what he is now here in Philly

 

[Jettany]

K’Andre Miller is a solid NHLer, but it remains deeply weird to me how a subsection of this fanbase obsesses over him more than Rangers fans do.

At least the Patrick stuff is pining for stars.

Not any stranger than harping on 4th round picks and waiver wires.

Well, let’s think about it, first round pick wasted on a player who can’t make the marlies or a solid second pair defenseman. I think if the ranger staff was dumb enough to take O’Brien the fans would let that be known. Also, the ranger fans are very happy with miller.

People really really need to stop bringing up Makar...hecwould never...EVER be what he is now here in Philly

Good reason to pick a hurt Patrick. Damn Makar would be bad here. Let’s pick damaged goods instead. Yep makes sense.

 

[Flyer lurker]

People really really need to stop bringing up Makar...hecwould never...EVER be what he is now here in Philly

Do this day I can't believe how gullible flyers fans are over what Clarke said.

 

[Jettany]

Do this day I can't believe how gullible flyers fans are over what Clarke said.

Then the hell with Makar. Maybe one of the next couple picks. Were they any good? Gullible? That it was known Patrick had head issues.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Then the hell with Makar. Maybe one of the next couple picks. Were they any good? Gullible? That it was known Patrick had head issues.

It is gullible to think at least 27 teams wouldn't take taken Patrick at the same spot.
It is gullible to trust Clarke in protecting Flusher mode he blamed Hextall more.
It is gullible to trust Clarke to defend the scouts.
It is gullible to think this medical staff has any wisdom or balls to over turn a trade/pick. See Ryan Ellis.

Flyers looked to trade down, didn't like the offers and went what was "thought" to be the best player at 2. Hindsight no duh he wasn't.

But if you like clarkie grape flavored kool aid, hey go for it.

 

[Jettany]

It is gullible to think at least 27 teams wouldn't take taken Patrick at the same spot.
It is gullible to trust Clarke in protecting Flusher mode he blamed Hextall more.
It is gullible to trust Clarke to defend the scouts.
It is gullible to think this medical staff has any wisdom or balls to over turn a trade/pick. See Ryan Ellis.

Flyers looked to trade down, didn't like the offers and went what was "thought" to be the best player at 2. Hindsight no duh he wasn't.

But if you like clarkie grape flavored kool aid, hey go for it.

Read several articles and posted them here where scouts in the nhl and juniors thought he was damaged. Not really understanding the rest of your tirade but whatever floats your boat.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

It wasn’t even Makar that was supposedly mentioned by a Flyers scout as a possible #2 pick in the draft

 

[Flyer lurker]

Read several articles and posted them here where scouts in the nhl and juniors thought he was damaged. Not really understanding the rest of your tirade but whatever floats your boat.

Didn't read one mock draft where Patrick wasn't going 2.

Now there were stories flyers were looking to trade down for Heiskanen if they got the right assets. It wasn't and they took Patrick.

Revisionist history is fun. Tomorrow lets go over why Kevin Durant should have went over Greg Oden.

It wasn’t even Makar that was supposedly mentioned by a Flyers scout as a possible #2 pick in the draft

That is why the clarkie story stinks of manure.

 

[Jettany]

Didn't read one mock draft where Patrick wasn't going 2.

Now there were stories flyers were looking to trade down for Heiskanen if they got the right assets. It wasn't and they took Patrick.

Revisionist history is fun.


That is why the clarkie story stinks of manure.

So a flyer scout said not to draft Patrick. The flyer scouts wanted to trade back. But the story isn’t true and everyone would have taken him. Interesting.

 

[Flyer lurker]

So a flyer scout said not to draft Patrick. The flyer scouts wanted to trade back. But the story isn’t true and everyone would have taken him. Interesting.

Trade back equals acquiring assets plus Heiskanen.

Other than Clarke who said flyers dont want to draft Patrick? Always took it as they really liked Heiskanen and for good reason.

Do you read or just want to pee in cheerios all night and whine?

 

[Flyer lurker]

With only a 2.4% chance of it occurring, Philadelphia somehow jumped up to the No. 2 pick in the draft, opening up a clear path to acquiring either Nolan Patrick or Nico Hischier, the two prizes of the class. Next up was two months of speculation, rumors, and unfounded concerns that the Flyers might somehow find a way to waste the gift that had fallen into their laps.

On Friday night, the Flyers made no such error, snapping up Patrick after the New Jersey Devils took Hischier at No. 1. But the draft didn’t end there. Philadelphia still had six more rounds to go, with ten more picks remaining. After three trades, they would end up making eight more selections, adding nine total prospects to the organization, obviously headlined by the franchise’s best hope in years for a homegrown 1C.

Nolan Patrick, C | 1st round, 2nd overall​

This was the obvious choice, but there is something to be said for not overthinking the situation. The Flyers’ prospect pool entering Friday night was one of the deepest in hockey, with one key element missing: a forward prospect guaranteed to stick at center possessing top line potential. Patrick, long expected to be the #1 selection in this draft, fell right into their lap, and the Flyers made the only logical decision: they rushed up to the podium and grabbed him.

There is no rational reason to criticize the pick. Sure, there were a few other intriguing center prospects — Cody Glass, Gabriel Vilardi, Elias Pettersson and Nick Suzuki were my favorites — but none graded out as well as Patrick on the whole. He’s a do-it-all center with ideal size for the position, a plus shot, solid skating ability and fantastic hockey sense. Patrick is the total package.

Are there some concerns surrounding him? Sure. His draft year didn’t go as planned because he dealt with two sports hernias (one undiagnosed) and unsurprisingly didn’t take the previously-expected point production leap as a result. He’s also old for his draft year, which makes his statistics a little less impressive in comparison to his peers. Patrick’s style also isn’t the flashiest, especially in comparison to Nico Hischier.

But these are more quibbles than legitimate concerns. The injury issues were the most worrying, especially because Patrick has only spent one year of his hockey career fully healthy. But Ron Hextall, as a former Brandon Wheat King, has lots of connections in Patrick’s organization, and he clearly saw nothing to dissuade him from making the pick.

As for the “bad” draft year, I’m honestly impressed that despite playing through a fairly serious injury and on a squad that lost its three highest scorers from the previous year not named Nolan Patrick, he still basically replicated his point per game pace from 2015-16.

Patrick will likely be in the Flyers’ lineup for Game 1 of the 2017-18 season, and the sky is the limit when it comes to his upside.