Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

[GKJ]

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[usahockey22flyers]

I’m assuming yall listened to Danny on Marek’s show?

This gets more confusing and confusing

 

[Gregor Samsa]

I think maybe we win this trade which is great given the situation. Past situations like Lindros resulted in shit coming back. This is a good chance at a star player. That 2nd could be valuable too. I would love to draft a 1D with it and have our top pair paid for with Cutter.


I haven’t watched much but they def show highlights and mention him. I think they showed highlights of Cutter following the Gold medal and MV Forward award right before the trade. I don’t think JJ had a clue. Jones said he knew last year while broadcasting. Guess he never told JJ.

Interesting. Anyone remember if Jones mentioned him last year? I can see someone with that kind of inside knowledge being hush hush instead of hyping him up

 

[gertbfrobe16]

YouTube as alot of Carson with Dangerfield; really wacky was when Rickles was on.

BTW Jack Paar was the host before Johnny and even before Jack was Steve Allen

I watch Teri Garr Letterman stuff on you tube, Good stuff.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

I'll always have this beautiful reminder of Cutter's illustrious time in Philadelphia.
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That looks like it says slut

 

[Rebels57]

I’m assuming yall listened to Danny on Marek’s show?

This gets more confusing and confusing

It refutes some of the details we've been arguing over, namely the ELC aspect. I suggest everyone watch or listen.

• It was his idea to return to College for a 2nd season
• They were ready to offer him a contract after his first season and the World Championships in Spring of 2023

 

[Jettany]

We can debate who won the trade on and on, but that won’t be known for years to come.

That being said, if what Briere said is true, the whole situation does not make Gauthier look good. Say what you want about Lindros’ refusal to play for Quebec, but at least he was up front about it from day one.

For Gauthier to refuse to even speak to Briere, who might not have much of a track record as a GM but at least deserves respect as a quality former NHL player, tells me all I need to know about the young man’s character.

Yes he’s young, but he, and his agent, should have the decency and the spine to speak to the Flyer’s brass face to face. While there is no way to know right now who is the better player, Drysdale sure seems to be the classier person.

I also find it interesting, that in his little podcast thing, he said repeated things over the last year and a half, 2 years made him say he couldn’t move forward. But the timeline is after the world championships. Wouldn’t that make it only 10 months after being drafted? In a bizarre way it almost seems like a Fletcher thing.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

TBH I’m not really sure I care about the exact details. It seems pretty clear that the relationship soured for whatever reason. Like most arguments, there are two sides, and generally the truth is somewhere in the middle. The exact details are probably boring and a power struggle of sorts. It feels weird at this point, like following the inner workings of a celeb breakup in a gossip rag

 

[Larry44]

In that instance of playing hard ball then there would still be a chance he has a change of heart, realizes the damage he is doing to his career, and/or realizes he is passing on millions of earnings and can get a career limiting/ending injury at any time. In other words he could grow up and do what's best for himself like a young adult should.

There is also the chance of working out a trade that involves more than someone else's damaged goods and a 2nd. I just don't value it as much as Briere since the team is supposed to be rebuilding anyway and should have plenty of good picks and (healthy) prospects if they do it right (or at least moderately competently). Getting a NHL player now is more of their typical quick fix patchwork than rebuilding for real. Just like being capped out while 'rebuilding' is a joke. They aren't doing it right and this is another symptom of that problem.

Torts said he and Shaw have been watching film on Drysdale for 6 months. They have been scouring the league, of 20 teams Gauthier would go to, to find the best fit. Scouts will have shared notes on the 2020 draft when Foerster was their pick but JD was taken 6th, first D taken. Yes, he hurt his shoulder and had a lower body injury. Not concussions, and he passed their medical. This is a very good young prospect, WJC at 17, elite skater, NHL right out of the draft b/c OHL closed for COVID while Foerster sat out. Murray drafted him for Ducks, he’s York’s buddy and he trains with Laughton and Frost. They know him well, and got their man.

 

[Winston Wolf]

His signature looks like it says Slut.

Um.. it clearly says “scat.”

Yeah, beauty trade by Briere, we’re already winners here.

 

[Kermit the Prog]

My only interest in this thread is to see if it makes it to 100 pages.

 

[Sombastate]

I have cutter in a dynasty hockey league and now I have to trade him

 

[Ironmanrulez]

Cue Led Zeppelin because we potentially got ourselves a "Rover."

Isnt Rover a british car factor? Didnt we sign player out of the british hockey league? If this is what drysdale will become iam not entertained....

 

[Crescent Street]

The argument of is the Ducks situation that much better you ask? Well let's see..

You're a top pick in an NHL draft, who do you want to play with? Leo Carlsson, Zegras, Terry, McTavish, Mintyukov? Or the Flyers core?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

It refutes some of the details we've been arguing over, namely the ELC aspect. I suggest everyone watch or listen.

• It was his idea to return to College for a 2nd season
• They were ready to offer him a contract after his first season and the World Championships in Spring of 2023

I haven’t listened but did they say when it was his idea? Before or after the conclusion of his freshman season and before or after the conclusion of the Flyers’ season?

If it’s after either of those it doesn’t really refute the ELC thing.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Isnt Rover a british car factor? Didnt we sign player out of the british hockey league? If this is what drysdale will become iam not entertained....

The frequency of usage in my experiences has been limited but current players such as Makar and in the recent past Neidermeyer have had that tag. Others as well. There is an attachment to the origin of the sport which includes members of the Hall who have had that label applied as a position.

 

[BiggE]

The frequency of usage in my experiences has been limited but current players such as Makar and in the recent past Neidermeyer have had that tag. Others as well. There is an attachment to the origin of the sport which includes members of the Hall who have had that label applied as a position.

Yup, back in the earliest days of the NHL, there were 6 skaters per side and one of the positions was rover. Interesting time, goalies had to remain on their feet and forward passing was not allowed.

 

[BernieParent]

I'll always have this beautiful reminder of Cutter's illustrious time in Philadelphia.
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Who chooses a photo of themselves taping a stick as their draft card??? What an entitled punk. And he even spelled Strawberry wrong!

 

[tinycars]

The argument of is the Ducks situation that much better you ask? Well let's see..

You're a top pick in an NHL draft, who do you want to play with? Leo Carlsson, Zegras, Terry, McTavish, Mintyukov? Or the Flyers core?

But we have Gritty

 

[BernieParent]

Torts said he and Shaw have been watching film on Drysdale for 6 months. They have been scouring the league, of 20 teams Gauthier would go to, to find the best fit. Scouts will have shared notes on the 2020 draft when Foerster was their pick but JD was taken 6th, first D taken. Yes, he hurt his shoulder and had a lower body injury. Not concussions, and he passed their medical. This is a very good young prospect, WJC at 17, elite skater, NHL right out of the draft b/c OHL closed for COVID while Foerster sat out. Murray drafted him for Ducks, he’s York’s buddy and he trains with Laughton and Frost. They know him well, and got their man.

I was thinking this morning of the size hit that the Flyers take in this deal, which is not insignificant given that part of the Gauthier hype line was 'big power forward'. I am pleasantly surprised that the key piece coming to the Flyers is a <6-foot defenseman whose main attribute is offense. And reading that Tortorella and Shaw obviously gave Drysdale their stamp of approval -- unsurprising that they needed to -- is a bit of positive, IMHO.

 

[Ironmanrulez]

The frequency of usage in my experiences has been limited but current players such as Makar and in the recent past Neidermeyer have had that tag. Others as well. There is an attachment to the origin of the sport which includes members of the Hall who have had that label applied as a position.

Yup, back in the earliest days of the NHL, there were 6 skaters per side and one of the positions was rover. Interesting time, goalies had to remain on their feet and forward passing was not allowed.

Thx for that added Information. I was curious a few times before when i read about rovers in hockey! We can all learn till the day we die

 

[Ironmanrulez]

I like Rachel Donner and Russ Cohen with their Locked On podcast. No silly rumors. You never want to kick your dog after listening. I listened to it for awhile and one day realized that Russ Cohen was the Russ who would play on my team in a co-ed softball league at Marconi. The weird part is that he's an uncanny doppelganger in appearance, voice, and temperament for an attorney that I work with. Whenever I'm discussing some legal aspect of a project with the colleague, I have this strong desire to ask about North American forward prospects.

I don't know about Russ Joy. If STG is anything like WIP or the Fanatic, I'll just put a radio on static or let an alarm continually go off, thank you.

Edit: He's not a very good softball player, although he did have shoulder problems. Real nice, unassuming guy though.

I cant stand Rachel Donner's voice and i hate the locked on podcast cause of the jingles and a lot of commercials without a lot of stuff inside the Podcasts. Locked on phillies is the worst. But also the other locked on pods arent my way.

 

[Random Forest]

So what are the chances Gauthier was part of the “massive multi player trade” with St. Louis that fell apart because of Krug last summer?

Jordan Kyrou was in the rumors for a couple days, which would make a lot more sense now in the context of Gauthier being a component. They also had the 10th overall pick (Dalibor Dvorsky), which Briere would have been interested in.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

So what are the chances Gauthier was part of the “massive multi player trade” with St. Louis that fell apart because of Krug last summer?

Jordan Kyrou was in the rumors for a couple days, which would make a lot more sense now in the context of Gauthier being a component. They also had the 10th overall pick (Dalibor Dvorsky), which Briere would have been interested in.

I saw someone on the main boards (I think) mention that we were offered the #10 overall last draft so this makes some sense, if you trust the info

 

[tnfrs]

So what are the chances Gauthier was part of the “massive multi player trade” with St. Louis that fell apart because of Krug last summer?

Jordan Kyrou was in the rumors for a couple days, which would make a lot more sense now in the context of Gauthier being a component. They also had the 10th overall pick (Dalibor Dvorsky), which Briere would have been interested in.

thats probably where the scott laughton for a 1st and 2nd rumor came from, seravalli was the only one who ran it maybe he heard about philly shopping a center from the world championship and assumed it was laughton

 

[Rebels57]

I haven’t listened but did they say when it was his idea? Before or after the conclusion of his freshman season and before or after the conclusion of the Flyers’ season?

If it’s after either of those it doesn’t really refute the ELC thing.

The Zoom call took place after the conclusion of both his Freshman season and the World Championships. So presumably end of May or into early June of 2023. They thought the call was requested to tell the Flyers he was ready to turn Pro and they had a contract ready.

This contradicts reports that they were not willing to sign him prior to the 23-24 season due to their salary cap and his potential bonus overages. More shoddy reporting by Friedman. No surprise.