Pre-Game Talk: Flyers @ Leafs - must watch TV

[notDatsyuk]

But he is our 2nd best. Better than MM, AM, BUT NOT WN.

At the moment he's putting up points, 70% of them on the PP, but he hasn't been better than AM or MM for a couple of years, especially at ES.

 

[NewEraGM]

I agree with you. I think we have the players to have scoring depth it's just deployment. Kerfoot and Nylander play really well together as we saw in the playoffs, I think we need to split it up a bit.

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Jarnkrok - Tavares - Malgin
Robertson - Kerfoot - Nylander
Engvall - Kampf - Holmberg

4th line should be a decent forechecking line.
Best third line in the league. They would feast on teams bottom 6 players
Tavares has thrived with players like Jarnkrok and Malgin seems to work with Tavares as they skate the same speed.
Top line is our top line

Defense is tough. Need to get healthy and need a trade

For the defense, health isn’t the answer. Everyone making it seem as if liljegren is going to be a saviour. He’s a bottom pair and won’t change anything

 

[PromisedLand]

LMAO

yes keefe taking out the guy who scored 2 goals to give you one of the wins is the way to go

GM->coaching->thinking->thought process-> strategy -> JOKE!

 

[The Podium]

Tavares scored 40 goals once in his entire career. His average is 30, and he hasn't even hit that number the last three years.

Some people, apparently including management, don't seem to want to admit it, but he's looking more and more like a 3C and PP specialist.

I think Willy is more likely to get 40 this year, especially if they move him to centre and away from JT.

Tavares’ last 3 years: 0.364 G/GP = 30G/82GP

Career: 0.411 G/GP = 34G/82GP

Career until 2019: 0.425 G/GP = 35G/82GP

He is 4 goals off his 82 game pace over his entire career, 5 goals off of his 82 game pace since his decline…. His goal scoring woes are largely being exaggerated due to his torrid pace in his first 2 seasons with the leafs

 

[ACC1224]

Weather the early storm is crucial. You know Torts will have them flying and hitting everything in sight.

 

[ToneDog]

Robertson doesn't create offensive chances, Kampf doesn't create offensive chances... which leaves Malgin ( who has zero assists) Robertson/Malgin as your energy checking line? I get it, if they are centered by someone offensive...

I don't think that is putting Robertson in the best position to succeed. Again, we are getting overly focused on singular games, that long run are meaningless in Robertson's development and contribution to the team. This focus on micro moments is troublesome.

You are not wrong but the kid needs to play IMO. Put 47 on the 4th line if you have to then. Maybe it will wake him up.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Our D needs an injection. We always have, but this year more than ever.

We cannot be playing Gio on our 2nd pairing.

Mo - D
Brodie - Lilly
Sandin - Gio

Is closer to where we need to be imo.

 

[Fogelhund]

You are not wrong but the kid needs to play IMO. Put 47 on the 4th line if you have to then. Maybe it will wake him up.

I seem to be having the similar conversation in two threads, with two people. I said that there. 47 hasn't been good...

If he sits for very long, he ends up on the Marlies dominating there, and working on his game. I don't care about the lineup today, or tomorrow... just qualify for the playoffs, become the best we can be, and get the best lineup then... that's the focus right... finally winning some rounds... in the meantime, let's prepare for that. Experiment with the lineup.. give different guys chances. I'd love to see Anderson and Steeves up at some point.

I see Engvall and ZAR getting extended runways here... but I also see those runways getting shorter.

 

[ToneDog]

Our D needs an injection. We always have, but this year more than ever.

We cannot be playing Gio on our 2nd pairing.

Mo - D
Brodie - Lilly
Sandin - Gio

Is closer to where we need to be imo.

I refused to watch the All 4 Nothing Amazon special but Kyper said that in it, Keefe asked Dubious, "what do we do if Muzzin goes down?". 2/3 years later Dubas still has done nothing.

 

[PromisedLand]

We are playing a bad team that has lost their best players to injury on the 2nd of a back to back starting a goalie who is 0-7 in the NHL.

A loss tomorrow would be ROCK bottom.

i think the leafs are looking up at rock bottom. leafs have found a low that has never existed in the history of mankind

 

[Fogelhund]

Our D needs an injection. We always have, but this year more than ever.

We cannot be playing Gio on our 2nd pairing.

Mo - D
Brodie - Lilly
Sandin - Gio

Is closer to where we need to be imo.

Gio has been on the ice for ONE 5 v 5 goal against. The last guy I'm picking on.

I'd agree with you though... we need another body for sure... Maybe they are waiting on Muzzin's future???

 

[PromisedLand]

Should be an easy win

for who?

 

[egd27]

We've had what... one game that got rough... and we had both Simmonds and Clifford in the lineup that game... please let us know what they did that game?

Which one was that? Was it the win in Winnipeg with arguably our best effort of the season?

 

[wingman75]

Weather the early storm is crucial. You know Torts will have them flying and hitting everything in sight.

We should be the ones bringing the storm. The road team coming in off the b2b should be worried as hell...

 

[Fogelhund]

Which one was that? Was it the win in Winnipeg with arguably our best effort of the season?

It was... they were non contributors in the rough department that game. Maybe our worst effort was the next game they were both in... and they were non contributors in the rough department that game either.

 

[egd27]

For any prop bettors.....neither Travis Sanheim or Ivan Povorov have scored in the Flyer's first 9 games.......just sayin

 

[notDatsyuk]

Kerfoot on the 2nd line, Holl on the 1st pair.

At this point, I’m wondering if Keefe is trying to get himself fired on purpose. Maybe there’s some kind of clause in his contract.

I suspect it's the other way around - if he had left the Robertson - Nylander - Malgin line together we would likely see that Tavares belongs on the third line. Don't embarrass your boss.

 

[PromisedLand]

6 seasons in the NHL and if you are still weak mentally I don't even....

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Please just win.

 

[ACC1224]

We should be the ones bringing the storm. The road team coming in off the b2b should be worried as hell...

Not in their D.N.A.

 

[egd27]

I refused to watch the All 4 Nothing Amazon special but Kyper said that in it, Keefe asked Dubious, "what do we do if Muzzin goes down?". 2/3 years later Dubas still has done nothing.

Oh you should definitely watch it. The insights that the head coach brings to the game are illuminating.

 

[HockeyVirus]

For the defense, health isn’t the answer. Everyone making it seem as if liljegren is going to be a saviour. He’s a bottom pair and won’t change anything

I think he is a top 4 dman personally. I think he is going to really solidify a pair and that pair will be our new shutdown. Wouldn't be surprised if it is

Rielly - Brodie
Gio - Liljegren
Sandin - whoever

Which is a lot more digestible than what we have had.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

I think he is a top 4 dman personally. I think he is going to really solidify a pair and that pair will be our new shutdown. Wouldn't be surprised if it is

Rielly - Brodie
Gio - Liljegren
Sandin - whoever

Which is a lot more digestible than what we have had.

Gio on the 2nd pairing is just unacceptable.

Gio on the 3rd pairing is nice depth, 2nd pairing? Not good enough.

Rielly - Parayko type
Brodie - Lilly
Sandin - Gio

 

[PromisedLand]

Flyers fan here.

We truly have an awful team and nothing in the pipeline that's remotely interesting. Our #2 overall pick who was supposed to save the franchise (Nolan Patrick) was traded and is basically retired.

Our 1C is Kevin Hayes. Our 2C is Scott Laughton.

We are without (1C) Couturier, (1D) Ellis, (2LW) JVR, (1RW) Atkinson.

Our backup goalie has never won an NHL game.

Seriously, the Leafs should be strafing the Flyers for 5-6 goals easily.

And even if the Leafs lose, you have an amazing group of elite-level players. A 4-5-2 record in November won't mean squat come playoff time. And you will be in the playoffs.

Good luck!

And there it is. The silver lining..... (red bolded font). Leafs are known to be record makers. Expect the unexpected tonight bruh

 

[HockeyVirus]

Gio on the 2nd pairing is just unacceptable.

Gio on the 3rd pairing is nice depth, 2nd pairing? Not good enough.

Rielly - Parayko type
Brodie - Lilly
Sandin - Gio

Based on what? He played top pairing minutes all season in Seattle last year. He can handle 18 minutes in a shutdown role.