Proposal: Flyers - jets

[tgo0]

Pretty bad for Philly.


Not sure what incentive they have for something like this.

 

[captainpaxil]

The original proposal is absolute garbage but it got me thinking. While it would be a radical change in direction for both teams how far apart is

Povorov Sanheim Simmonds

For

Laine Connor Trouba

 

[Boxscore]

Wow, this is BRUTAL for Philly.

More like Sanheim and a 3rd for Trouba.

 

[Tripod]

The original proposal is absolute garbage but it got me thinking. While it would be a radical change in direction for both teams how far apart is

Povorov Sanheim Simmonds

For

Laine Connor Trouba

See below....lol.

If Philly WAS trading all those 3 in a deal, expect Laine, Connor, AND Trouba to be involved.

Reality though, Philly needs to fix their defense. They won't trade 2 D and get only 1 back.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

The original proposal is absolute garbage but it got me thinking. While it would be a radical change in direction for both teams how far apart is

Povorov Sanheim Simmonds

For

Laine Connor Trouba

I'd have to tape a few 10 foot pools together to give you a real answer.

 

[Starat327]

The original proposal is absolute garbage but it got me thinking. While it would be a radical change in direction for both teams how far apart is

Povorov Sanheim Simmonds

For

Laine Connor Trouba

Philly could use two stud LW...but not at the cost of 2 stuff d men. (All 4 of which are potential as of now).

 

[lomiller1]

First, it's dominant, not dominate.

Aren't you clever. Good job!

Second, he is asking to play the right side in Winnipeg, so yes he is asking for second pairing minutes since Buff is ahead of him.

Trouba is on record multiple times as far back as the middle of last season and as recently as a few weeks ago saying he doesn't mind playing the left side as long as he's not moving back and fort.


Again, there is no way he's asking for a demotion tom the second pairing, as much as I wish it were so trading Myers won't get him to sign or even discuss a contract(which apparently hasn't happened yet)

 

[Curufinwe]

His trade request is pretty specific.

To the Jets credit, the club has two outstanding right shot veteran defensemen and our client simply wants the opportunity to have a greater role. As a consequence of the Jets depth on the right side, we believe it is in both parties’ best interest to facilitate a mutually advantageous trade.

 

[lomiller1]

His trade request is pretty specific.

Again, he was already on the top pairing and was 38th in the NHL in average ice time over the last 3 seasons. A demotion to the second pairing does not represent more opportunity.

 

[tony d]

Trouba's going to be a good 1 but Philly's not giving up Provorov for him.

 

[briererocks]

Trouba's going to be a good 1 but Philly's not giving up Provorov for him.

Most flyer fans would not move sanheim for trouba. Trouba is a good number 2 but the flyers do not need him. I would not even move Myers for trouba.

 

[Hockeypete49]

Most flyer fans would not move sanheim for trouba. Trouba is a good number 2 but the flyers do not need him. I would not even move Myers for trouba.

Myers had one heck of a game the other night. His frame is scary and he was dishing out some mean checks which I was glad to see not thinking that was part of his game. What a steal by the Flyers signing him(although they passed on him to in the draft). What a defense this team will have in the near future! Dare I say the best in their history?

 

[Hunter368]

I haven't seen one realistic offer or counter offer in this entire thread (including OP).

Is this thread needed?

 

[Channelcat]

I dont think the Jets would do Provorov for Trouba straight up.

 

[Curufinwe]

I dont think the Jets would do Provorov for Trouba straight up.

Neither would the Flyers, even if they thought Trouba was the better player. They couldn't afford to sign Trouba.

 

[Channelcat]

Neither would the Flyers, even if they thought Trouba was the better player. They couldn't afford to sign Trouba.

Yes, Troubas apparent contract demands are complicating this deal. I'm sure teams are trying to throw in junk contracts to any proposal............which doesn't really work for the Jets.

 

[trebendan]

How about this?

MDZ, Sanheim & MacDonald (about $1M retained) for Trouba, Copp & Stuart

 

[bennysflyers16]

I dont think the Jets would do Provorov for Trouba straight up.

Then there is no intention to trade him if that were true. I will truly be shocked if Jets get a return of a pkg as good as Provy. There wishes would have to be something other than a stud young cost controlled LHD top 2 D man.

 

[Hunter368]

Then there is no intention to trade him if that were true. I will truly be shocked if Jets get a return of a pkg as good as Provy. There wishes would have to be something other than a stud young cost controlled LHD top 2 D man.

That's very subjective to say say least. Not receive a package as good as Provy? How do even compare returns if the returns are a proven player vs a prospect who has proven nothing at the NHL level? I highly doubt (reports have confirmed it) Chevy would even consider just a prospect as the main return, Chevy wants something proven, something that will help the team now, not a mystery box that "might" help us in 2-3 years. That's not to say a prospect or pick might not be added to the main return. But Provy is too big to be a plus, but wouldn't be considered the main return either due to him being unproven. So the whole idea of Trouba for Provy is unrealistic.

I get why a team might not trade a promising prospect for a proven player due to multi reasons.

 

[bennysflyers16]

That's very subjective to say say least. Not receive a package as good as Provy? How do even compare returns if the returns are a proven player vs a prospect who has proven nothing at the NHL level? I highly doubt (reports have confirmed it) Chevy would even consider just a prospect as the main return, Chevy wants something proven, something that will help the team now, not a mystery box that "might" help us in 2-3 years. That's not to say a prospect or pick might not be added to the main return. But Provy is too big to be a plus, but wouldn't be considered the main return either due to him being unproven. So the whole idea of Trouba for Provy is unrealistic.

I get why a team might not trade a promising prospect for a proven player due to multi reasons.

I have mis-read then. I thought cost control was one of the main prerequisites ?

I agree with you tho the Jets have to get someone proven, finding that proven player that Jets fans expect does not exist though in a trade that makes sense for the other team.

 

[Curufinwe]

Again, he was already on the top pairing and was 38th in the NHL in average ice time over the last 3 seasons. A demotion to the second pairing does not represent more opportunity.

Myers was 31st over the same period.

Last season, when they both played for the same team all year long, Myers averaged more total ice time than Trouba, and averaged almost twice as much PP time.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...=timeOnIcePerGame&aggregate=0&teamId=52&pos=D

Myers leaving clearly would enable Trouba to have a greater role, even if he was on the second pairing behind Buff.

 

[Hunter368]

I have mis-read then. I thought cost control was one of the main prerequisites ?

I agree with you tho the Jets have to get someone proven, finding that proven player that Jets fans expect does not exist though in a trade that makes sense for the other team.

I agree finding a LHD with similar age and ability (Chevy demand) will be very tough. I expect Trouba will either come crawling back late Nov and sign a deal (or risk sitting the entire year out) or Chevy will just trade Trouba for the bpa (aka a forward) which would be much easier.

Then either Josh M steals that top 4 LHD spot (he looks good in TC so far) or Chevy trades a pick or prospect for a older cheaper top 4 LHD with a couple years left buying time for our LHD prospects to develop.

 

[Rufus]

Flyers get hosed. Trouba is overvalued

 

[Rebels57]

Time to shut this one down.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I dont think the Jets would do Provorov for Trouba straight up.

I doubt neither of the Flyers nor Jets would do Provorov for Trouba straight up.