Seravalli: Flyers interested in Lawson Crouse

[TheGroceryStick]

I'd like Crouse on our 2nd line.

Ritchie + Robertson

 

[rt]

He’s on pace for 20g 20a 40pt (on a historically bad team with zero offense and no talent) 200hits and 4 fights. He’s 6’4 225, skates well, is solid in all three zones, is seen as a leader on the team, is young and cheap.

Name three other guys in the league that fit the above description.

 

[BKarchitect]

Will get a late first+good prospect if dealt. That may get some laughs from peanut gallery who just look at point totals and think the Coyotes are a joke but I’ll bet the house he’s got some big time admirers around the league.

Unique and rare game in todays NHL, has taken a big step up this year in responsibilities, just starting to scratch his potential offensively and still young and won’t break the bank as an RFA this summer on next contract.

He has the potential to be a more truculent Nichushkin with the right role on the right team in the next few years.

He’s the kind of guy teams love to add for a playoff run except he’s not 30 and a rental for a year or a year and a half - you’re getting him on the upswing. Some shrewd org will pay the price, probably get laughed at for overpaying on this forum and then a year or two from now look like they knew exactly what they were doing.

 

[Ironmanrulez]

He means the world to Arizona, at the moment. You'd have to pry him away, at a way bigger price than the average 3rd liner. I don't think a 1st round pick gets it done.

LOLS

 

[AZviaNJ]

Crouse and Philly’s 2022 2nd (from Ghost trade)
for
Frost and Philly 2023 1st (top 3 protected)

 

[Ironmanrulez]

Might I ask if you're a true Flyers fan? I honestly really dislike the Flyers, but it's no secret they'll always have the identity of being tough, work hard, and beat up the team they're playing against every single night, correction try that is if they don't suck. They're not known as the Broad Street Bullies for nothing.

Players that match the Flyers description that played for them: Bernie Parent, Bobby Clarke, Eric Lindros, Chris Pronger, Mike Richards, Claude Giroux, Rod Brind'Amour, Keith Primeau, Mark Recchi, Kevin Dineen (but I consider him more a Whaler), those are the kind of examples of players who played the ideal game the Flyers expect people to play. Lawson Crouse would fit the Flyers like a glove, similar to when they went out and got Daniel Carcillo.

But I think personally they've shown more to sellout, try way... too hard to be good and overpay terrible ex-superstars to the dumbest contracts. The dumbest excuse I ever heard is people in Philly work very, very hard and expect a lot from their sports teams. Honestly, as stressful as a team are the Flyers are to manage, I'd definitely go the young route and build around young players only.

i would cry when it wouldnt bet that bad..... The flyers playing soft for 10 years now! Everyone with eyes in his head can see it!

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Every team should be interested in him

 

[Dooble08]

Crouse and Philly’s 2022 2nd (from Ghost trade)
for
Frost and Philly 2023 1st (top 3 protected)

Why in the world would the Flyers ever do that?

 

[TheKingPin]

Might I ask if you're a true Flyers fan? I honestly really dislike the Flyers, but it's no secret they'll always have the identity of being tough, work hard, and beat up the team they're playing against every single night, correction try that is if they don't suck. They're not known as the Broad Street Bullies for nothing.

Players that match the Flyers description that played for them: Bernie Parent, Bobby Clarke, Eric Lindros, Chris Pronger, Mike Richards, Claude Giroux, Rod Brind'Amour, Keith Primeau, Mark Recchi, Kevin Dineen (but I consider him more a Whaler), those are the kind of examples of players who played the ideal game the Flyers expect people to play. Lawson Crouse would fit the Flyers like a glove, similar to when they went out and got Daniel Carcillo.

But I think personally they've shown more to sellout, try way... too hard to be good and overpay terrible ex-superstars to the dumbest contracts. The dumbest excuse I ever heard is people in Philly work very, very hard and expect a lot from their sports teams. Honestly, as stressful as a team are the Flyers are to manage, I'd definitely go the young route and build around young players only.

The flyers biggest issue has been bad luck with career ending injuries to captains Primeau, Pronger, and basically Lindros. Patrick was always damaged goods, but he’s a long way away from being Malkin at 2OA. The same level of issue is their coaching hires and talent evaluation. It’s not a good stretch and they need to fire Fletcher and do a compete rebuild.


You are not trading Frost for Crouse.

 

[Guttersniped]

This is very much not our style of game anymore.

I know as a Devils fans “being tough, work hard, and beat up the team they're playing against every single night” is exactly how I would describe Claude Giroux’s play. Real gritty lunch pail guy, if only that thug had some offensive creativity.

 

[wankstifier]

Why in the world would the Flyers ever do that?

I find your lack of faith in Chuckton L. Fletcher disturbing

 

[CupInSIX]

Good physical player that's on pace for 40 points, but then again so is Travis Boyd.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

People are laughing at 1st + B prospect, but you are absolutely crazy if you think Tampa wouldn't give up their 1st + and pretty much any prospect in their organization for Crouse.

 

[13pacheco31]

People are laughing at 1st + B prospect, but you are absolutely crazy if you think Tampa wouldn't give up their 1st + and pretty much any prospect in their organization for Crouse.

A 4th liner isn't worth a late first let alone a late first + a prospect.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I'd like Crouse on our 2nd line.

Ritchie + Robertson

Robertson is to much for Crouse

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

The chuckle brigade are showing their asses in this thread.

I've been shocked by how quiet it has been on Crouse. Having watched a couple of Coyote games and extended highlights of most teams most nights, he consistently impresses me. He has always been a physical specimen but it looks like the game has slowed down for him.

He's figuring it out on a historically bad team. If I'm a good team's GM I'm salivating over what he could be if he was deployed with a good playmaker and a good finisher. He's scary, hits hard, retrieves the puck well, is smart with the puck, can finish, and is a mountain of a man.

A team is going to trade a 1st + for him and probably win the trade. He's a rare weapon just beginning to break out.

God this forum has decreased in quality hockey takes so dramatically that it depresses me sometimes.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

A 4th liner isn't worth a late first let alone a late first + a prospect.

You're calling him a 4th liner which means you know literally nothing about him in the last two years. Why post takes on things you know you're ignorant about?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Robertson is to much for Crouse

Because there’s a cap dump, attached with it, too balance it out, I guess.

 

[13pacheco31]

You're calling him a 4th liner which means you know literally nothing about him in the last two years. Why post takes on things you know you're ignorant about?

If you think he's anything more than a 4th liner on a contending team, you need to wake up from your day dream

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

A 4th liner isn't worth a late first let alone a late first + a prospect.

Goodrow had 41pts in his previous 144 games when he (+ a 3rd, I think) returned a 1st.
Coleman had 67pts in his previous 135 games when he returned a 1st and a recently-drafted 1st round prospect.
Crouse has 54pts in his last 148 games. He's also a 24yr old RFA.

If Crouse is a 4th liner, well... actually, there's no "if". Crouse isn't a 4th liner.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Because there’s a cap dump, attached with it, too balance it out, I guess.

I get that but I wouldn't do that, I'd be interested in Lawson Crouse at a price but Nick Robertson isn't it

 

[rt]

The chuckle brigade are showing their asses in this thread.

I've been shocked by how quiet it has been on Crouse. Having watched a couple of Coyote games and extended highlights of most teams most nights, he consistently impresses me. He has always been a physical specimen but it looks like the game has slowed down for him.

He's figuring it out on a historically bad team. If I'm a good team's GM I'm salivating over what he could be if he was deployed with a good playmaker and a good finisher. He's scary, hits hard, retrieves the puck well, is smart with the puck, can finish, and is a mountain of a man.

A team is going to trade a 1st + for him and probably win the trade. He's a rare weapon just beginning to break out.

God this forum has decreased in quality hockey takes so dramatically that it depresses me sometimes.

This is like a breath of fresh air. Someone who bases their opinion on actually watching. Brings a tear to my eye, man.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

I'm sure they're a lot of teams that would show interest if the Coyotes would make him available

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

If you think he's anything more than a 4th liner on a contending team, you need to wake up from your day dream

Avatar bet?

 

[13pacheco31]

Goodrow had 41pts in his previous 144 games when he (+ a 3rd, I think) returned a 1st.
Coleman had 67pts in his previous 135 games when he returned a 1st and a recently-drafted 1st round prospect.
Crouse has 54pts in his last 148 games. He's also a 24yr old RFA.

If Crouse is a 4th liner, well... actually, there's no "if". Crouse isn't a 4th liner.

He averages less than 30 points a season... Those are 4th line numbers. He plays second line minutes with Kessel and plays on the 1st pp which props his numbers a bit but don't kid yourself, 54 points in 148 ges is not impressive nor is it anything more than mediocre bottom 6 production at best