Flyers goaltending
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mr figgles
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As a Flyers fan, I love it. Don’t change a thing. Team needs talent from the top of the draft. Michkov isn’t enough.
sonic92
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You notice it's always Philadelphia that has terrible goaltending?
jetsforever
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Been saying this for a while
They inexplicably have 3 goalies and all of them are playing terribly
As said above maybe they want to lose this year but they have to figure something out
They inexplicably have 3 goalies and all of them are playing terribly
As said above maybe they want to lose this year but they have to figure something out
Luigi Lemieux
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Their even strength metrics are actually pretty good, similar to Dallas and Colorado. Their goaltending is truly horrendous.
gritdash60
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Remind me again when was the last time any Flyers fan thought they had a good goalie? Even the rapist dude was ok but still got a lot of hate. Bryz had a moment when he looked really good, but once he let in one soft goal it was over. Im not saying Philly is the goalie cemetery because of the fans, but it has to be part of it? Maybe im wrong?
lanceuppercut75
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Fedotov was a mistake.
It should be Ersson and Kolosov this year as 1A/1B with Petersen in the AHL, if Kolosov is playing at or close to Ersson's level.
Alternatively, if Kolosov doesn't look ready yet and Ersson is a lot better, it should be Ersson starting and Cal Petersen backing him up with Kolosov playing a lot as an AHL starter, and Philly maybe looking to trade Petersen with max retention and a pick/prospect for a better backup on a 1 or 2 year deal.
It should be Ersson and Kolosov this year as 1A/1B with Petersen in the AHL, if Kolosov is playing at or close to Ersson's level.
Alternatively, if Kolosov doesn't look ready yet and Ersson is a lot better, it should be Ersson starting and Cal Petersen backing him up with Kolosov playing a lot as an AHL starter, and Philly maybe looking to trade Petersen with max retention and a pick/prospect for a better backup on a 1 or 2 year deal.
BillDineen
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Flyers have drafted/scouted goalies quite well recently (Stolarz, Lyon, Hart, Ersson, Fedotov, Kolosov, Zavragin, Bjarnason). They now want to see what they have before giving up too early. We'll see. They are rebuilding, so goaltending is helping them get a less mid pick.
So in this case, Ersson is the starter because of 79's sudden departure. He was playing decent until he got hurt, and hasn't been good since he got back. Fedotov won the backup job and was horrible at the beginning of the season, so Kolosov got called up. Just as Fedotov started to get better, Ersson got hurt, which stopped Kolosov from being sent down. Now for some reason, Torts has decided that at least for the moment, Kolosov is ahead of Fedotov. Kolosov is too raw, Fedotov is like Mikko Koskinen, a "best goalie outside the NHL" type who's big but has lots of holes. Ersson is unconvincing as a starter.
crackdown44
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I think if they can find one more massive Russian guy they’ll be onto something
I honestly didn't know the Flyers had a goaltender since Hextall. What a fun fact.
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Ersson was thrusted into starter duty way before he was ready.
Kolosov should probably be in the American League getting 50 starts, Fedotov seems like a journeyman who will put together a couple above average seasons in the right situation (which PHI is clearly not since they are rebuilding).
Kolosov should probably be in the American League getting 50 starts, Fedotov seems like a journeyman who will put together a couple above average seasons in the right situation (which PHI is clearly not since they are rebuilding).
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biturbo19
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It's late stage Torts coaching, combined with inexperienced goaltenders thrust into too much, combined with a not very good defence.
Torts sometimes gets some quick surprising results when he's got total buy-in from all the skaters also just playing goalie at the same time. As soon as that starts to fall apart and guys tire of his idiotic tough guy schtick, things completely unravel.
Combine that with a trio of goaltenders in a stupid rotation so nobody can ever get enough reps and into a good rhythm, and guys who really don't have the experience and proven record in the first place, and you're gonna get awful results.
Torts sometimes gets some quick surprising results when he's got total buy-in from all the skaters also just playing goalie at the same time. As soon as that starts to fall apart and guys tire of his idiotic tough guy schtick, things completely unravel.
Combine that with a trio of goaltenders in a stupid rotation so nobody can ever get enough reps and into a good rhythm, and guys who really don't have the experience and proven record in the first place, and you're gonna get awful results.
DrMartinVanNostrand
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They had Bobrovsky way back in the day. So much for how that turned out.
dirtydanglez
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Everyone was on 79's nuts(pardon my French) the first couple years, and really up until the scandal broke, he was still pretty popular. Me personally, I wasn't that big on him. Goalie coach's dream, but sometimes that was to his detriment. His first official year as the starter(2019-2020), he was notoriously amazing at home, but horrible on the road, but he was great in the bubble 2020 playoffs. But he was horrible the season after, and just average after that.
HockeyVirus
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I actually respect how Philly is trying to stay as competitive as possible during their rebuild. No Buffalo tear it down to the studs and be terrible for 15 years. They add players and vets and have a good coach and play hard and stay in the fights but aren't good enough and are getting top 10 picks.
They just need a little lottery luck and suddenly they will accelerate out of their rebuild ahead of teams like Sabres / Habs / Hawks because their team has depth to put around the stars
They just need a little lottery luck and suddenly they will accelerate out of their rebuild ahead of teams like Sabres / Habs / Hawks because their team has depth to put around the stars
sbhnur
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Thanks man, I'm proud we never tanked like others. At least we had some luck recently with MM.
On the other hand having this roster is a curse.
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That changed for a few years with Carter Hart. You know what happened next..
FWIW, Samuel Ersson is a lot better than he's played so far and the other 2 are NHL rookies. Ersson was solid last year but an injury derailed him in the 1st half of this season and he can't seem to find his game.
He wasn't THAT good though. He had potential and at times showed flashes, but nothing he actually did was that amazing. He was good his first season as the starter(2019-2020) but after that was nothing special. He did remain popular up until the scandal.
Ersson is better than he's been since he came back from injury, but he'll never be better than solid. I think the org is holding out hope that one of Bjarnason or Zavragin is better
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He was an above average NHL starter in his 1st, 2nd, 5th, and 6th NHL seasons with the Flyers. He was horrendous in his 3rd season and just a bit below average in his 4th season. Overall his career .906 save percentage would be a game-changer for the Flyers this season.
thekernel
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Amazing that Carter Hart is the closest they've had to ending the goalie graveyard, but it turns out, he was terrible too, in a much worse way
