Proposal: Flyers and Jets

[Curufinwe]

This is a valid arguments. Certainly the best way to judge dmen is too look at their ppg pace

What were you looking at when you claimed he wasn't a top 5 dman in the WHL?

 

[Starat327]

This is a valid arguments. Certainly the best way to judge dmen is too look at their ppg pace

If it's good enough for the Norris...

 

[JetsHomer]

What were you looking at when you claimed he wasn't a top 5 dman in the WHL?

I never said he wasn't a top 5 Dman in the WHL.

I'd have him as third, behind Provorov and Hicketts

 

[Tripod]

I never said he wasn't a top 5 Dman in the WHL.

I'd have him as third, behind Provorov and Hicketts

HAHAHAHA.....Hicketts.

Good Jr player....still worse than Sanheim. Sorry.

 

[JetsHomer]

HAHAHAHA.....Hicketts.

Good Jr player....still worse than Sanheim. Sorry.

ok.

Caught a lot of WHL games out in Nova Scotia did you?

 

[Curufinwe]

Brb, I'm off to start a Sanheim for Hicketts thread.

 

[JetsHomer]

Brb, I'm off to start a Sanheim for Hicketts thread.

I never said Hicketts was more valuable than Sanheim, but you sure do like twisting my words. Hicketts was better as he was the older player - this is pretty typical as older players are more developed.

Which really just make's Connor's dominance of the NCAA even more impressive, as it is the much older and stronger league the the Dub

 

[Tripod]

ok.

Caught a lot of WHL games out in Nova Scotia did you?

There is this thing called the internet....

 

[mazmin]

Not a good deal for the Jets

Armia for Hagg?

 

[Gsus]

Not a good deal for the Jets

Armia for Hagg?

Done deal. Even tho I'm not sure where would he fit.

 

[trebendan]

Instead of Armia, how about Lipon for Hagg?

 

[Starat327]

Instead of Armia, how about Lipon for Hagg?

Instead of Hagg, how about Pettersson?

 

[Cellee]

Robert Hagg?

Nuh.

Lemieux is going to be a popular player in Winnipeg.

 

[10Ducky10]

MDZ (re-signed) and a 1st rounder in 2017 for Dano and Lemieux.

 

[Cootsfanclub]

MDZ (re-signed) and a 1st rounder in 2017 for Dano and Lemieux.

Re-signed MDZ is worth more than that.

 

[Tripod]

MDZ (re-signed) and a 1st rounder in 2017 for Dano and Lemieux.

MDZ plays against teams top lines on our top pairing allowing others easier minutes. And our 1st is likely like last year....16-22.

That's an easy no from Philly.

 

[Flair Hay]

MDZ is a tough one to guage. Went from very promising young dman to bought out to reclamation product to good again, or never sucked? Seems like he'd be a good 2nd pair puck mover. Jets have Morrissey for that and Flyers don't want to give him up because he fits. Let him be.

 

[10Ducky10]

Enstrom will soon be gone and Morrissey hasn't even made the team yet so...
I think he would fit in nicely on the 2nd pairing and 1PK unit. We also get a mid 1st round pick. The flyers get two NHL ready wingers that are on ELCs helping them with cap space and fitting in to the age group they want right now. Flyers' fans would absolutely love Lemieux.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Jets pass on MDZ easily and are 2 high on Lemieux to move him for Del Zotto

 

[Tripod]

MDZ is a tough one to guage. Went from very promising young dman to bought out to reclamation product to good again, or never sucked? Seems like he'd be a good 2nd pair puck mover. Jets have Morrissey for that and Flyers don't want to give him up because he fits. Let him be.

Even on the Flyers boards, he is hard to gauge.

As I said, he plays against top lines as our top pairing Dman. But then he gets hurt, and our makeshift D continues on without missing a beat.

He has 1 more year left on his deal and the debate is to re-sign or not. Ideally, we only need him for another 2 years and then Provy and other kids are ready. So if we do re-sign him, it needs to be a deal that the Flyers can trade when the kids are ready. But will MDZ want to sign that kind of deal? Likely he wants top 4 money and term, which he deserves. But Philly might not be the best fit for that based on the the depth of good, young, cheap kids on the way.

Enstrom will soon be gone and Morrissey hasn't even made the team yet so...
I think he would fit in nicely on the 2nd pairing and 1PK unit. We also get a mid 1st round pick. The flyers get two NHL ready wingers that are on ELCs helping them with cap space and fitting in to the age group they want right now. Flyers' fans would absolutely love Lemieux.

Here is the thing though...you won't get that deal from Philly.

MDZ is absolutely what you describe...a mid pairing Dman who can PK. As for the Flyers getting 2 NHL ready wingers...well...we have a bunch of depth there very soon.

Schenn, Voracek, Simmonds are there now. Laughton, Raffl and Weise are too. That's our top 3 lines for wingers.

Then we have Konecny who could be ready this year. And have Lindblom and Aube-Kubel ready in 2017.

Ideally we need a top 6 LW and a #3C NOW. We have youth a year away and we have Laughton and Cousins who right now, are on par with Lemieux and Dano.

If the Flyers are trading MDZ and a 1st, it's for a top 6 LW. In fact, I don't see any scenario where Hextall trades the 1st. He is committed to building thru the draft.

A 2nd pairing Dman and a 1st will fetch more than Dano and Lemieux.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Only trades between the Jets and flyers that would work would probably involve Sanheim or Provorov. I don't think Philly Is willing to move them so really... there is no deal to be made

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Only trades between the Jets and flyers that would work would probably involve Sanheim or Provorov. I don't think Philly Is willing to move them so really... there is no deal to be made

Why just Sanheim or Provorov? Why not another D Prospect?

 

[1865]

Jets pass on MDZ easily and are 2 high on Lemieux to move him for Del Zotto

Are you still working on the presumption that MDZ sucks?

 

[Maukkis]

Can every fan base just ignore Ducky's proposals? I haven't seen a good one from him, and it won't be changing anytime soon.

 

[Gump Hasek]

The Jets aren't at all likely to trade Lemieux, so it seems a waste of time to imagine that they would. They specifically had him inserted into the Kane trade for a reason - because Chevy likes players that compete hard. The GM and coach both really like him per the press. Not available.

With Morrissey ready to graduate to the NHL roster now, Winnipeg has no need to move a player like Lemieux for either a D prospect or as part of a trade for a roster D.