News Article: Fluto: Bruins GM Don Sweeney hasn’t ruled out a coaching change

DKH

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Watching BU-Mass and JFK with another 2

That 2015 second round trio is going to be the morherload
 

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Do it, Donny! Fire him.

Then, you'll be next, after this collection of wash outs and muckers you've given him to work with accelerates its crash to earth under your new coach.

I have very little confidence in DS. The problem with this team is personnel and foolish contracts. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Didn't they learn ya that in Cambridge???
 

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Claude will take the heat, just like PC. Sweeney and Neely will stay but will be on thin ice if things don't improve. Neely has Jacobs ear and has for years. Problem is that we need a goal scorer, a sniper, to take the pressure off others. It's this every year, and Neely likes to re-invent the wheel and target more "all-around complete" wingers - like himself. Bruins also seem to get that typical mid 20 goals a year winger, promising power forward but who can't seem to score 30+ goals for them. Power forwards are hard to find/develop these days in the NHL. You can't have a bunch of similar type players and that's the problem with the B's. You need a game changer. D is promising, but in the "future", a lot of players on D are still young and will make mistakes and go through most likely the typical 2 year learning curve. In the next 3-5 years B's core players avg. age will be mid 30's. The time is ticking. Bruins should target a proven solid D-man, and a proven goal scorer. However, contracts will need to move and I'm not sure who will want the "junk", so picks and prospects will need to be shipped out, if the B's want to bring in a few proven players and compete now or in the next 2-3 years. Make a few good moves and the B's I think can be competitive. It comes down to making moves and the right ones vs. the ****** ones made the past few years.
 
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Do it, Donny! Fire him.

Then, you'll be next, after this collection of wash outs and muckers you've given him to work with accelerates its crash to earth under your new coach.

I have very little confidence in DS. The problem with this team is personnel and foolish contracts. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Didn't they learn ya that in Cambridge???

If you say so.

I think history has shown that, given a choice, Clode will play those wash outs and muckers over better players that make the occasional defensive gaffe.
 

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If you say so.

I think history has shown that, given a choice, Clode will play those wash outs and muckers over better players that make the occasional defensive gaffe.
So true Joe. So true

It's time
 

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Claude needs to go period he is too old school for the new NHL, but not just him Mr. Sacco needs to go ASAP, get someone who can run a PP. The coaching change DS was referring to may just be an assistant like Sacco.
 

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love Julien to death & think his structure is a big reason the Bruins are even halfway decent defensively right now, but also can't ignore the fact that this team is going through the same mental breakdown halfway through the season for the 3rd year in a row with a lot of turnover. At some point you just have to admit that this team has chronic problems with being unprepared for games.
 

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honestly think the team just likes Julien too much. He has been a part of some of these guys' lives for 10 years now. He's as much a friend as a coach to most of them now. I don't think Julien is doing a lot wrong, but I do think once you know an authority figure's approach it becomes easy to tune him out. They respect him but don't fear him at all it seems.
 

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Columbus and their coaching change seemed to do wonders.

Pittsburgh and their coaching change won them a cup.

Ottawa a few years back, same deal.

Minnesota last year firing Yeo put them back into the playoff picture.

It's time.
 

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honestly think the team just likes Julien too much. He has been a part of some of these guys' lives for 10 years now. He's as much a friend as a coach to most of them now. I don't think Julien is doing a lot wrong, but I do think once you know an authority figure's approach it becomes easy to tune him out. They respect him but don't fear him at all it seems.

This is a great point. The locker room is too comfortable with Julien. They tried changing assistants and he didn't work. It's time for him to go. No hard feelings.
 

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If you say so.

I think history has shown that, given a choice, Clode will play those wash outs and muckers over better players that make the occasional defensive gaffe.

So true Joe. So true

It's time

You guys kill me with this "can't see the forest for the trees" thing.

They fire Clode, maybe get a dead cat bounce, but in the long run, Punch Imlach himself come back to life wouldn't get a thing out of this 1.5 forward line/2 dman/1 goalie team.

'tain't happenin'.

If they fire Clode and this year's team suddenly does a 180 and goes deep in the playoffs, I fly up to Boston, send limos to your houses, have them drive you to Sullivan's on Castle Island (or the Kowloon in Saugus, your choice) (or maybe one for lunch and the other dinner) and I'm buying. If we further go on to win the Cup with this Miracle new coach, Steak at the Capital Grille or Grill 23 (again, your choice and again, I'm buying).

win/win, but unfortunately, very likely 'tain't happenin'.
 

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You guys kill me with this "can't see the forest for the trees" thing.

They fire Clode, maybe get a dead cat bounce, but in the long run, Punch Imlach himself come back to life wouldn't get a thing out of this 1.5 forward line/2 dman/1 goalie team.

'tain't happenin'.

If they fire Clode and this year's team suddenly does a 180 and goes deep in the playoffs, I fly up to Boston, send limos to your houses, have them drive you to Sullivan's on Castle Island (or the Kowloon in Saugus, your choice) (or maybe one for lunch and the other dinner) and I'm buying. If we further go on to win the Cup with this Miracle new coach, Steak at the Capital Grille or Grill 23 (again, your choice and again, I'm buying).

win/win, but unfortunately, very likely 'tain't happenin'.

Damn, I agree with you 100% but I want to take you up on it because you make the payout sound great!!!
 

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honestly think the team just likes Julien too much. He has been a part of some of these guys' lives for 10 years now. He's as much a friend as a coach to most of them now. I don't think Julien is doing a lot wrong, but I do think once you know an authority figure's approach it becomes easy to tune him out. They respect him but don't fear him at all it seems.

Totally agree, time for a change. As long as the right candidate is available...
 

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Claude scratched C. Miller so Liles could play. Liles cost the OT goal last night.

Why not scratch McQuaid who is completely useless?? Or go with the same lineup that destroyed Florida the night before?
 

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Claude scratched C. Miller so Liles could play. Liles cost the OT goal last night.

Why not scratch McQuaid who is completely useless?? Or go with the same lineup that destroyed Florida the night before?

McQuaid was 3rd on this team in D-men TOI last night

Kevan Miller was 4th.

They may not be the pairings, but this is your Bruin's D-men ranked 1-8 in Claude's mind.

1) Chara
2) Krug
3) McQuaid
4) Kevan
5) Liles
6) Carlo
7) Colin
8) Morrow

Good luck winning in this league utilizing this D-corps in that fashion.
 

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Totally agree, time for a change. As long as the right candidate is available...

who`s the right candidate in your mind and why would that candidate change the fortunes of this team? I`m not arguing against change, I`d just like to hear names fans think could turn around this group as it`s currently composed and why/how their approach would be successful
 

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who`s the right candidate in your mind and why would that candidate change the fortunes of this team? I`m not arguing against change, I`d just like to hear names fans think could turn around this group as it`s currently composed and why/how their approach would be successful

I would like to see us get a coach who's more then just a strict system coach. Someone who is more flexible then Julien and is willing to let young talented players play through their mistakes rather then sending them to the press-box in favor of older less talented guys. I like what the Flyers did last year in hiring the coach from North Dakota instead of an old NHL retread, perhaps the B's will look at Nate Leaman, I have heard positive things about him from respected posters on this board. We need a coach who values offense, not everything has to be about preventing goals.
 

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McQuaid was 3rd on this team in D-men TOI last night

Kevan Miller was 4th.

They may not be the pairings, but this is your Bruin's D-men ranked 1-8 in Claude's mind.

1) Chara
2) Krug
3) McQuaid
4) Kevan
5) Liles
6) Carlo
7) Colin
8) Morrow

Good luck winning in this league utilizing this D-corps in that fashion.

Sadly enough, this is spot on. This is why people who exonerate Claude need to get their heads checked. He's part of the problem, just like Sweeney and Neely have their piece of blame pie as well. It's not one person, it's all of them as a collective. Blow it up, fire Claude, fire Sweeney, and most importantly, fire that boob Neely. He's not a good president and his meddling has done way more damage than good.
 

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Oh please NO!

(What's Kasper doing these days? Maybe he could coach. At least he will bench people who are not playing to expectations. Oh, wait, forgot Cam is pres.)

You forgot to mention that "twit" put a 5 time Norris trophy winner at left wing...

At his point the order to try should be:
0) lower ticket prices
1) play who's performing now, not who did in the past
2) make a trade
3) adjust coaching staff
4) adjust management
 

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Sadly enough, this is spot on. This is why people who exonerate Claude need to get their heads checked. He's part of the problem, just like Sweeney and Neely have their piece of blame pie as well. It's not one person, it's all of them as a collective. Blow it up, fire Claude, fire Sweeney, and most importantly, fire that boob Neely. He's not a good president and his meddling has done way more damage than good.

I think most people acknowledge that Julien is part of the problem. It's only the very vocal extremists that consider him without flaws or faults. But the same holds true for the Sweeney supporters, some of them are so occupied with blaming anyone besides Sweeney that it falls more on the coach than it should, seemingly as a way to 'excuse' Sweeney's questionable moves or decisions. (Interestingly, I think we've reached a point that Neely doesn't have a 'blindly supportive staff' anymore; not many people are 100% supporting him and excusing him.)

IMHO, the blame should go beyond the list of three that you mentioned. It's not just Julien/Sweeney/Neely, it's those three PLUS the core players, PLUS the 'depth' players. Very few people are in a position to cast stones in this organization right now.

And, for me, that's why I personally put a bit more emphasis on blaming Sweeney. He's the one that can make a coaching change, or swap out the horrid back-up netminder without waiting for months, or trade/waive some players as a wake-up call that the team needs to receive. Instead, we're 3+ months into the season and shockingly little has changed.
 

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You guys kill me with this "can't see the forest for the trees" thing.

They fire Clode, maybe get a dead cat bounce, but in the long run, Punch Imlach himself come back to life wouldn't get a thing out of this 1.5 forward line/2 dman/1 goalie team.

'tain't happenin'.

If they fire Clode and this year's team suddenly does a 180 and goes deep in the playoffs, I fly up to Boston, send limos to your houses, have them drive you to Sullivan's on Castle Island (or the Kowloon in Saugus, your choice) (or maybe one for lunch and the other dinner) and I'm buying. If we further go on to win the Cup with this Miracle new coach, Steak at the Capital Grille or Grill 23 (again, your choice and again, I'm buying).

win/win, but unfortunately, very likely 'tain't happenin'.


That's fabulous.

Here's the issue, at least with me. I'm not looking for some lightning in a bottle run to the Stanley Cup this year. I want a coach that's going to be able to integrate the influx of young talent on the horizon and the veterans on the team into a cohesive, effective unit going forward.

You can keep your limo, I just don't think Clode is that guy.
 
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