Speculation: Florida's pick - Watch thread - (Upon request, thread title change lol)

[Captain97]

Was that the last unprotected 1st traded until the Chiarot trade? Do you recall any others? Seems very rare

Ottawa got Stutzle 2nd over all with the San Jose Sharks pick, it was unprotected

 

[McGees]

FLA got rid of a LOT of futures last year. If they continue on the trend they are on - they could be sellers just to start recouping some draft picks including a 1st in this years draft if nothing else.

If they have any half decent chance at a wildcard spot tho they’ll go for it - boom or bust.

 

[NewEraGM]

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There is a 0.15% chance of this happening lol….imagine!!

 

[Captain97]

They don't have their 1st. There's no way they sell.

Ah the good old sunk cost fallacy, something humans tend to do even though they shouldn't.

 

[LaP]

We are playing against Florida in a few days. It will be one of those games that can't go in OT. Must end in regulation.

 

[Runner77]

I'd take Carlsson 2nd over Fantilli.

Can you expand on that — what has caused Carlson to leapfrog Fantilli right now? Of course, so much can still happen before final rankings are in.

 

[Gravity]

Can you expand on that — what has caused Carlson to leapfrog Fantilli right now? Of course, so much can still happen before final rankings are in.

Based on the small amounts I've seen and reading more avid prospect watcher posters here, IQ seems to be a concern of how Fantilli can transition his game to the pros. Carlsson seems to be very comfortable in a men's league and does not seem to display the same hockey IQ concerns.

 

[Adam Michaels]

They don't have their 1st. There's no way they sell.

I don't see them selling either. But if they're not in playoff contention by the TDL, I don't see them being buyers, either. They had injuries this year so they might use that as a reason to ride things out and start again next year.

They might get rid some pendings UFA's like Eric and Marc Staal.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

They don't have their 1st. There's no way they sell.

To get a first?

 

[Redux91]

They don't have their 1st. There's no way they sell.

They have nothing to BE buyers with lol

Imagine spending a 1st on Chiarot instead of Chychrun lmao
Now they can't get ANYone even if they tried

 

[salbutera]

They have nothing to BE buyers with lol

Imagine spending a 1st on Chiarot instead of Chychrun lmao
Now they can't get ANYone even if they tried

Yotes want two 1sts + a top end prospect

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

KK also had a strong Liiga season that year, so U18 wasn't the only measurement of him.

AK didn't just do well at u18s he freaking dominated. He put up almost 3 pts per game on a terrible Belarusian team. The Russian team had both Malkin & Ovechkin on it, and he out performed both.

However, that performance followed a strong WJC performance at 17, which is also rare. It's a 19 year old tournament. He also played for Belarus at the World Championship that year.

It was more than one tournament.

Sometimes players have great draft years then fizzle.

Exactly.

What's more impressive just looking at stats:

10 goals 19 assists in 57 Liiga games

or

3 goals 11 assists in 25 SHL games

To top it off Kotkaniemi was 7 months younger during his draft year

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Ah the good old sunk cost fallacy, something humans tend to do even though they shouldn't.

As long as they continue to do it at the Texas holdem games I play then nothing else matters. Haha.

 

[Ezpz]

I don't see them selling either. But if they're not in playoff contention by the TDL, I don't see them being buyers, either. They had injuries this year so they might use that as a reason to ride things out and start again next year.

They might get rid some pendings UFA's like Eric and Marc Staal.

Nobody wants the Staals though. Eric was washed two years ago with us and hasnt been in the league since.

 

[LaP]

Fla rode a hot start and career years by unknown assets coming out of nowhere - Duclair didn’t all of a sudden learn “how to play hockey” to become a 30G scorer….

Habs Cup finals wasn’t a flukey run, their MVP simply played like one, in fact Price played like his stats suggest the best playoff goalie (sv %) since 2013 w minimum 25GP

It's weird that you bring Duclair. The guy is injured and has not played one game.

I'm puzzled some guys think the Panthers will sell. There's 0 chance Panthers are seller unless they get a 1st round pick for a guy on an expiring contract that they are 100% sure they wont resign.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Ah the good old sunk cost fallacy, something humans tend to do even though they shouldn't.

If they think there's a guy that they can move that won't adversely affect competing then sure they'd probably do that. Duclair comes to mind.

But, they don't really have much to move to begin with & making moves that makes them worse this year just so Montreal can get a higher 1st round draft pick makes no sense at all.

 

[Captain97]

If they think there's a guy that they can move that won't adversely affect competing then sure they'd probably do that. Duclair comes to mind.

But, they don't really have much to move to begin with & making moves that makes them worse this year just so Montreal can get a higher 1st round draft pick makes no sense at all.

It's about getting assets to retool over the next couple years. collecting assets earlier means they played sooner.

 

[jakobsbror]

Ottawa got Stutzle 2nd over all with the San Jose Sharks pick, it was unprotected

almost. Stützle was 3rd pick overall. 2nd pick was byfield by LAK

 

[Captain97]

almost. Stützle was 3rd pick overall. 2nd pick was byfield by LAK

My bad, I had Stutzle ranked 2nd that year for some reason I thought he had been picked there

 

[LV426]

Kopitar was drafted from one of those countries, so I'd be perfectly fine with it. I have no issues taking talent from smaller countries.

I randomly picked Romania during my childish tirade. I have no issues with Romania....Beautiful country.

 

[Lshap]

Florida could end the evening 23rd in the league, which would be a 10thOA pick.

 

[Naslundforever]

We are playing against Florida in a few days. It will be one of those games that can't go in OT. Must end in regulation.

At least we don’t have to root to lose

 

[Naslundforever]

Florida could end the evening 23rd in the league, which would be a 10thOA pick.

At some point I wonder if some team picking at the top (3-6?) is tempted to trade down for the 2x hab picks at the draft. We can start imagining habs actually targeting a few guys right up there… Gee I sure hope nothing happens to their other knees…

 

[ottawa]

At some point I wonder if some team picking at the top (3-6?) is tempted to trade down for the 2x hab picks at the draft. We can start imagining habs actually targeting a few guys right up there… Gee I sure hope nothing happens to their other knees…

Not in this draft, the top 5 is stacked

 

[WinterLion]

I don't see them selling either. But if they're not in playoff contention by the TDL, I don't see them being buyers, either. They had injuries this year so they might use that as a reason to ride things out and start again next year.

They might get rid some pendings UFA's like Eric and Marc Staal.

I think Gudas will be sought after if he's healthy... that guy is a beast