Florida Panthers completely changing jersey (logo leaked post 661)

[These Are The Days]

Oh yeah and the outdoor games are pushing the "retro" movement faster than anything because it's all about the "olden days" and playing outside. Any leftover "loud jerseys" will soon be extinct as a consequence. The push for antiquity creates a mood, an attitude, a growing and increasingly obvious bias that affects everyone who observes it.

It was fun being black, silver, blue and white. But since all the cool kids are blue and red, the Lightning are just another one of the 10 "blue teams" and what do we have? A crudely reduced logo, 2 colors and a stripe. It's a loss of sense of self and identity.

What I wouldn't give for this instead of what we have now....

 

[Hoek]

I was hoping our 3rd would be something like that with all those elements of our original look instead of the Kings lookalike.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Wow. You think the fans of this team are wrong to prefer a jersey from an earlier era?

Compared to something new? Yes. I am allowed to have an aesthetic opinion, even if it doesn't conform to the fans of the team.

I think the Panthers have had a horrible set of uniforms for their entire existence. I also think that Panthers fans wanting to go back to their Bure era jerseys is more gravitating towards the least of all the evils rather than going back to a good design.

I don't see anything controversial with that opinion.

It highly depends on how you look at it.

He's a Wings fan. It would only make sense for him to say it. They've had essentially the same jersey since 1937 in an era where teams picked a color and a logo that looked like the name. It's "simple" and "classic" because parody was not required. Take a look at the original 6.

Bruins- black and gold
Red Wings- red and white
Maple leafs- blue and white
Montreal- red white and blue with red as the base color
New York- blue, white and red with blue as the base color
Chicago- red, white and black

It's not that hard to do. You could afford to throw out the simplest look possible back then. It's when you add other teams that you have to add all the whistles and bells that come with other looks.

The current Red Wings look is the only look the franchise has ever known because teams had zero reasons to change their looks because every team looked different enough. Plus team merchandise and jersey sales for sports fans didn't start really picking up until the 1960's-1970's.... WELL into the team's "established" look. Merchandising has been the primary reason why teams have changed their looks over the years.

But having had this luxury also makes his statement ludicrous.... Panther fans are damn well entitled to having their "classic" look like Wings fans do regardless of if the team changed its look ever since.

I for one agree with you though but see why he would say that

I don't appreciate you using my fandom as the reason why I am making a statement. There are plenty of "non-original six" jerseys I like. I particularly like the Nashville Predators uniforms (though I find some aspects busy), and think that a jersey doesn't have to go with the grain to work. My main gripe with Florida's set of jerseys has to do with the color scheme and the logo they used, as well as the way that color scheme has been implemented throughout their history. I have never found it appealing and think that by going with a different style (which is not necessarily "original six") it could look much better.

Panthers fans can enjoy their look for their connection with the team and what the jersey represents. I, however, think that the look they enjoy is not very good from a simple aesthetic perspective. It's not about simplicity. I would please ask for you to look for clarification before you rally against what you think my reasoning is.

 

[SenzZen]

Compared to something new? Yes. I am allowed to have an aesthetic opinion, even if it doesn't conform to the fans of the team.

I think the Panthers have had a horrible set of uniforms for their entire existence. I also think that Panthers fans wanting to go back to their Bure era jerseys is more gravitating towards the least of all the evils rather than going back to a good design.

I don't see anything controversial with that opinion.

I didn't think it was controversial- just condescending.

You're allowed to have "an aesthetic opinion", for sure. Doesn't mean that your opinion is "right" and the fanbase is "wrong".

 

[These Are The Days]

Compared to something new? Yes. I am allowed to have an aesthetic opinion, even if it doesn't conform to the fans of the team.

I think the Panthers have had a horrible set of uniforms for their entire existence. I also think that Panthers fans wanting to go back to their Bure era jerseys is more gravitating towards the least of all the evils rather than going back to a good design.

I don't see anything controversial with that opinion.



I don't appreciate you using my fandom as the reason why I am making a statement. There are plenty of "non-original six" jerseys I like. I particularly like the Nashville Predators uniforms (though I find some aspects busy), and think that a jersey doesn't have to go with the grain to work. My main gripe with Florida's set of jerseys has to do with the color scheme and the logo they used, as well as the way that color scheme has been implemented throughout their history. I have never found it appealing and think that by going with a different style (which is not necessarily "original six") it could look much better.

Panthers fans can enjoy their look for their connection with the team and what the jersey represents. I, however, think that the look they enjoy is not very good from a simple aesthetic perspective. It's not about simplicity. I would please ask for you to look for clarification before you rally against what you think my reasoning is.

I apologize for the way it came off and it being inappropriate. But using your fandom is the crux of my argument. I used it to show the contrast of mentalities between fanbases.

You're a Red Wings fan. You're not going to have the concept of wanting an old look back. It's the worst feeling in the world. You openly asserted that Panther fans were WRONG for wanting the "Bure look" because you've disliked every incarnation of the uniform. You later described it as the lesser of evils. You can dislike a uniform for any reason you want, that wasn't my point. A fan is never wrong for openly expressing fondness for a certain look. It's that look that they identify with.

I think Red Wings fans are the luckiest in the world because they wear a beautiful jersey that never changed a day in their life except for moving the "C" and "A" and maybe tweaking the stripes a little bit. But no one is going to say, "I liked it better when they had..." about a Red Wings jersey. If your team suddenly went and changed their look and their colors like the Panthers/Lightning franchises have done it would be a different story for you as a Red Wings fan. If they suddenly decided they were going to COMPLETELY redo their look (new colors, new logo) like our franchises have, you would not be wrong in ANY fashion for wanting to wear the uniform you liked the most regardless of what another fan thought of the Red Wings uniforms.

I bleed black, silver, white and blue. Not this Maple Leafs crap we came out with when Vinik bought the team. I feel like I'm right for it no different than I would believe you to be right for being red and white when Detroit (fictitiously of course) decided "LET'S BE THE FIRST GRAY TEAM IN THE NHL!" Wear that crappy gray uniform for 5 years and it'll eat at your soul.

Again, I apologize for the remark being inappropriate and striking you the wrong way. I'm not here to do that. I went about it the wrong way in pointing out that contrast.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

I didn't think it was controversial- just condescending.

You're allowed to have "an aesthetic opinion", for sure. Doesn't mean that your opinion is "right" and the fanbase is "wrong".

When people have a disagreement over something opinionated, typically one person thinks the other is wrong about it.

I am not saying that Panthers fans are stupid or have no sense of aesthetics. I am saying that I think saying "just go with what they had in the Bure era" is unfortunate because I don't think they have ever had a good set of jerseys.

If a Panthers fan loves any or all their jerseys, I won't look down on them for it. I myself have loved many off the wall and what many consider terrible jerseys (Phoenix Picasso jerseys, St. Louis Red Bonanza jerseys). I won't think people are condescending if they think my opinion on those jerseys is wrong from an aesthetic perspective.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

@AlwaysSunnyInTampa

I will say that I think aesthetically there is more merit to wanting to go back to your previous jerseys (though I think some updates and revisions could be made to make them better), because the black, blue and white was a staple of the team's identity, and Yzerman took out the major color in that scheme for no particular reason.

It's all dependent on the uniforms that were used in the past. Some do way better updating theirs compared to going back to previous jerseys (Washington, Nashville, Phoenix), and some would do way better going back to previous jerseys (Pittsburgh, Ottawa, Buffalo).

 

[SladeWilson23]

When people have a disagreement over something opinionated, typically one person thinks the other is wrong about it.

I am not saying that Panthers fans are stupid or have no sense of aesthetics. I am saying that I think saying "just go with what they had in the Bure era" is unfortunate because I don't think they have ever had a good set of jerseys.

If a Panthers fan loves any or all their jerseys, I won't look down on them for it. I myself have loved many off the wall and what many consider terrible jerseys (Phoenix Picasso jerseys, St. Louis Red Bonanza jerseys). I won't think people are condescending if they think my opinion on those jerseys is wrong from an aesthetic perspective.

You might not, but most other people would.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

You might not, but most other people would.

Okay, why?

 

[FLpanthers16]

 

[FLpanthers16]

This seems to be pretty accurate per George Richards.

 

[SladeWilson23]

The mockups look nice, but I actually wish the chest stripe was blue on the red jersey.

Okay, why?

Because it's the tone of your posts.

 

[Plante]

Compared to something new? Yes. I am allowed to have an aesthetic opinion, even if it doesn't conform to the fans of the team.

I think the Panthers have had a horrible set of uniforms for their entire existence. I also think that Panthers fans wanting to go back to their Bure era jerseys is more gravitating towards the least of all the evils rather than going back to a good design.

I don't see anything controversial with that opinion.



I don't appreciate you using my fandom as the reason why I am making a statement. There are plenty of "non-original six" jerseys I like. I particularly like the Nashville Predators uniforms (though I find some aspects busy), and think that a jersey doesn't have to go with the grain to work. My main gripe with Florida's set of jerseys has to do with the color scheme and the logo they used, as well as the way that color scheme has been implemented throughout their history. I have never found it appealing and think that by going with a different style (which is not necessarily "original six") it could look much better.

Panthers fans can enjoy their look for their connection with the team and what the jersey represents. I, however, think that the look they enjoy is not very good from a simple aesthetic perspective. It's not about simplicity. I would please ask for you to look for clarification before you rally against what you think my reasoning is.

You think your opinion is right and the majority of the fan base is wrong... in opinions regarding something as subjective as aesthetics... and you do not see any controversial statements?

 

[Never]

The mockups look nice, but I actually wish the chest stripe was blue on the red jersey.

So basically Montreal.

 

[Marlowe Syn]

Yikes. Granted I know that is is just a mock up, but that Panther looks like a rodent, maybe of unusual size. Also not a fan of crests or text on jersey fronts. Let the logo stand on its own imo. I say keep the jerseys, but scrap the logo for a new design. Or keep the old logo. It never blew me away visually, but it certainly wasn't broke either.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

You think your opinion is right and the majority of the fan base is wrong... in opinions regarding something as subjective as aesthetics... and you do not see any controversial statements?

I have an opinion.

It's been over two weeks since I made that post. Do people want to continue to get defensive over a statement that I made which I gave my opinion on the Panthers uniforms through their history? I think they have been horrible. I think the color scheme has been awful, and I think that going back to the "least bad" of their sets is the wrong decision.

If you don't like the tone of my opinion, then go ahead and not like it. But I'm not calling out the Panthers fanbase, just disagreeing with those who think it would be the best decision to go with a previous version of their jerseys.

I also really don't like the most recent mock-up if that is the correct one.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

This seems to be pretty accurate per George Richards.

I don't think they look too bad.

Only complaint is that Gold is more prominent than Blue

 

[pucky]

Awful...what's with the shield? Who designs these things?

Why do so many teams need the 'text' (out of '3rds') and if you have it, it's never part of the logo.... lame.

 

[who_me?]

flag patch

 

[hockey17jp]

Wow if this is all true it's going to be a serious downgrade in Florida. I hate shield logos and trying to copy the Habs Classic sweater template won't end well.

 

[Mantha Poodoo]

10 points to Gryffindor for the colors, though I'm not a huge fan of the particular shade yellow. It's a bit flat and mustardish.

Why is the panther yawning, though? Is he that bored with the product? They've got a pretty interesting young team. Maybe he just sat through the NHL's selection of Winter Classic music.

 

[Fern111]

I personally love our current jerseys idk why we're fixing a non-issue???

 

[Hoser]

I personally love our current jerseys idk why we're fixing a non-issue???

Money.

 

[account deactivated]

I don't think they look too bad.

Only complaint is that Gold is more prominent than Blue

I don't know, the logo kind of looks like this mock up I did:

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

These are now confirmed to be very close to the real thing. Turns out they were relocated to Montreal after all