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Post-Game Talk: Floors
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I was at MSG when Keenan got mad at Kovalev for overstaying his shifts.
His reaction was to not let Kovalev leave the ice for about 5 minutes. Every time Kovalev came to the bench, Keenan waved him back onto the ice.
savebyrichter94
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Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
The team either doesn't care or isn't that good. What a waste of a season. We need to blow this shit up. The core is toxic.
The biggest concern I have is that opposing forwards have " figured out" what to do against the knee dropping Trouba. They either fake a shot and more around him for a great chance or they shoot thru the screen but attack the rebound while Trouba is still down. Guy did exactly that last night and Trouba's only recourse was to trip him. Last week a guy shot and scored on the rebound on the same play. Can anybody get it thru this dope's head that it isn't working. Housley, Lav? Anybody? And if he's doing it to cover some injury that makes him less mobile, get him the hell out of the lineup.
Glen Sathers Cigar
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I really don't know how that headset situation wasn't a penalty for delay of game. It's not like it fell from the ceiling or a fan threw it on the ice. The player in the penalty box came out after his penalty and caused the game to be stopped because of what he did. That should be delay of game, especially because we were threatening and had the puck in their zone.
Glen Sathers Cigar
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Miller-Trouba is a legitimate problem. However, I'm not going to sit here and whine that Lavi needs to break them up because it's obvious that's not going to happen. What DOES need to happen is for them to stop being used as if they're a elite shutdown pair. They need to be sheltered or at least sheltered at least a little bit,
Miller seems to be at his worst with Trouba. Trouba was already average to below average speed and now he's even slower. He can't move.
Miller seems to be at his worst with Trouba. Trouba was already average to below average speed and now he's even slower. He can't move.
aufheben
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The best part is he has some of the worst gap control in the league so he has the potential to give up this play almost every time he touches the ice.
The funniest part was, Kovalev thought he was being rewarded with extra ice time.
Yes, I'm thinking the knee drop thing came about as a "fix" for the horrendous gaps that we saw last year. They must go back to the drawing board.
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romba
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How do we leave guys so wide open off the cycle??? Sometimes I think we collapse so hard to the net to cover the low slot passing lanes and clear potential rebounds before the shot is even take that we leave the high/mid slot passing lanes wide open for streaking players. It's been an issue all year. Once the cycle gets going and the puck is within 10 feet of our goal all shit breaks down and coverage is non-existent.
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So my thinking is that while Kakko hasn't lit the world on fire with Zib and Kreider, he atleast adds some defense to it so maybe just drop him up there and let it ride. Leave the Panarin line alone, 3rd line should be Cuylle Wennberg and Roslovic, 4th line Vesey Goodrow and Rempe, that line will disrupt other teams, just tell Rempe no staged fights, no reckless plays, just chase pucks down and put guys into the glass. I mean at this point in the season they arent breaking Zib and Kreider up, so just make them a good shut down line if nothing else. The defense i think is gonna be what we have now, mostly because this is what they have rolled out all year. If there is another thing I'd try its Roslovic in the middle, to me he doesn't play like a winger.
PuckLuck3043
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I think it's both tbh. They obviously don't care enough to match the intensity of desperate teams but this team also has players on it that aren't that good and are playing significant minutes. A first round exit is a real possibility. Then blow it up.
Megustaelhockey
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And it is Matt Rempe with a Party City mustache on. Matt Dempe. lol
will1066
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He's not the same DJ he was once.
This is as negative as I've seen you
Machinehead
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My qualms with the defense corps are pretty much get this idiot and his giant son off my television.
As far as the forward corps, I keep coming back to this, and @DanielBrassard will be the only one to listen to me maybe, but there isn't enough skill. We talk abut 10-16-13 being the only line to generate. They generate because they beat people. You go past defenders, you draw movement, and prime areas open up. Panarin beats pretty much every guy who comes near him in open ice. It's Panarin. Lafreniere can do it. It's the number one thing he's improved on. That cut to the middle last night broke every ankle on the ice and I'm mad he hit the post. Trocheck can do it. He plays a grinding style but the f***ing guy's talented. He had that great shift in the second last night, and he was battling his ass off, but he was also using his hands to put the guy hassling him in a bad position.
The other lines have none of this. For "top guys" Kreider and and Zibanejad were never that skilled with the puck. Kreider gets by on athleticism and positioning. Zibanejad has a good shot but handles the puck like his stick is made of paper. That line needs some mitts on RW to succeed. Somebody who can do a f***ing entry and draw a switch. That's why Buchnevich worked. Bargain bin Roslovic, who can do some things at speed but ultimately always gets bad results, wasn't it. The third line has no puck talent. Cuylle is a nice player and his shot is good but beating defenders just isn't in his profile. Kakko does some things well but he just never developed the offense to take on defenders at this level. Wennberg is just grown-up Kakko. Does a lot of things well, can't score. Handles the puck like a grenade. The 4th line is the 4th line.
This team isn't quite good enough with the puck. It hinders their scoring and when they get frustrated or just aren't 100% up to it that night, it hinders their puck management.
As far as the forward corps, I keep coming back to this, and @DanielBrassard will be the only one to listen to me maybe, but there isn't enough skill. We talk abut 10-16-13 being the only line to generate. They generate because they beat people. You go past defenders, you draw movement, and prime areas open up. Panarin beats pretty much every guy who comes near him in open ice. It's Panarin. Lafreniere can do it. It's the number one thing he's improved on. That cut to the middle last night broke every ankle on the ice and I'm mad he hit the post. Trocheck can do it. He plays a grinding style but the f***ing guy's talented. He had that great shift in the second last night, and he was battling his ass off, but he was also using his hands to put the guy hassling him in a bad position.
The other lines have none of this. For "top guys" Kreider and and Zibanejad were never that skilled with the puck. Kreider gets by on athleticism and positioning. Zibanejad has a good shot but handles the puck like his stick is made of paper. That line needs some mitts on RW to succeed. Somebody who can do a f***ing entry and draw a switch. That's why Buchnevich worked. Bargain bin Roslovic, who can do some things at speed but ultimately always gets bad results, wasn't it. The third line has no puck talent. Cuylle is a nice player and his shot is good but beating defenders just isn't in his profile. Kakko does some things well but he just never developed the offense to take on defenders at this level. Wennberg is just grown-up Kakko. Does a lot of things well, can't score. Handles the puck like a grenade. The 4th line is the 4th line.
This team isn't quite good enough with the puck. It hinders their scoring and when they get frustrated or just aren't 100% up to it that night, it hinders their puck management.
PuckLuck3043
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This team played really well when Trouba was injured. He is nothing but a liability. He is going to single handedly sabotage their chances. Lavy has been good but I will be pissed if he continues to play him big minutes. They need to trade him this summer.
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Mika used to be MUCH more dynamic carrying the puck. You can see him attempting the same zone entries this year but he's getting plays broken up every single time. Having a certified puck carrier on that line could change things dramatically - with a caveat. That said - the fact that all 3 of 10-16-13 can carry the puck with varying degrees of efficiency is what makes them so damn dangerous. You cant just take away Artemi's ice because the other 2 will burn you. Would be afraid that if 20-93 got a verified puck carrier, teams would just suffocate him into submission because they know the other 2 are useless with the puck right now.
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His hands have slowed dramatically. His speed is still there, but the hands...
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My biggest issue is that was behind the play, so the play didn't have to stop until the puck moved backwards to the middle. The ref was too quick to blow it. I get it. But it's frustrating.
However, I can't look at this play and say we were screwed out of a win. Too many players are allergic to physical contact here. I'm not talking about bone crushing hits. I'm talking about trying to knock players off the puck. Make it difficult for them to make a play. There's way too much soft stick reaching going on. The Zibby/Roslovic/Kreider line isn't working. Roslovic stopped carrying the puck through the neutral zone. Zibanejad can't handle a puck coming off the boards. The play is dead everytime is goes down low. But we saw that coming. Aside from line 1, their gameplay is getting the puck deep, tossing it back to the point and hoping for the best..
Also, learn how to get away with 99% of the interference taken. Because every other team seems to be able to do it to our defense backing up.
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