Flint Firebirds 2022-23 Off-Season Thread

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Otthman Lombardi Hayes
Piercey Kressler C. Pitre
Giroux Hay Slavicek
Bradshaw K. Pitre Assinewai
Aspinal Petrou Pitters
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Deline Kuzmin
Terry Damato
Bertucci Petrovski
Gee Jenken

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Otthman Lombardi Hayes
Piercey Kressler C. Pitre
Giroux Hay Slavicek
Bradshaw K. Pitre Assinewai
Aspinal Petrou Pitters
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Terry Damato
Bertucci Petrovski
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I think Piercy is an excellent OA RW, but has never looked good at LW with the colts or firebirds. If LW is the position of need, keep Panwar and trade Piercy for a very good return imo.
 
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I think Piercy is an excellent OA RW, but has never looked good at LW with the colts or firebirds. If LW is the position of need, keep Panwar and trade Piercy for a very good return imo.
As much as I hate to see Coulson Pitre on the 3rd line I think Kristina Hazzard’s lineup much better. I like Panwar. He was a steal for a 4th round pick. He does a lot well. Piercey is just too valuable to this team though. There was a point last year where he was scoring like crazy and had like a 16 game point streak going. Then it immediately and drastically slowed down. I have to believe it was injury related. Even with the diminished production, he was a leader on this team. Is much more punishing on defenders. Might not be much more fighting in this league but who’s left this year that wants any of him? He absolutely lit the crowd on fire with a couple scraps last year and I seriously believe one playoff victory was all on him changing the momentum of a game with a scrap.
 
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As much as I hate to see Coulson Pitre on the 3rd line I think Kristina Hazzard’s lineup much better. I like Panwar. He was a steal for a 4th round pick. He does a lot well. Piercey is just too valuable to this team though. There was a point last year where he was scoring like crazy and had like a 16 game point streak going. Then it immediately and drastically slowed down. I have to believe it was injury related. Even with the diminished production, he was a leader on this team. Is much more punishing on defenders. Might not be much more fighting in this league but who’s left this year that wants any of him? He absolutely lit the crowd on fire with a couple scraps last year and I seriously believe one playoff victory was all on him changing the momentum of a game with a scrap.
Piercey was and will be very good for the firebirds at RW. He is just not anywhere near as good as Panwar playing LW imo. The difference seems so great that Piercey probably offers more value in a trade if he isn’t going to play RW for the firebirds.
The 2-way play and LW/C versatility of Panwar is underrated imo, but could never match the value Piercey has as a complimentary power forward playing on a top line. You just can’t have Hayes and C.Pitre both as top six and PP mainstays if Piercey is on the team. And a healthy Kressler is probably a top 3-4 forward for the firebirds, so Pitre is going to have to be happy on the 3rd line of hopefully a contending team in his draft year.

I believe the drop in production you refer to began when Giroux was hurting, and Lombardi was playing with Panwar/Keppen and Pitre/Hayes.
 

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Piercey should be a top 6 winger.

When you look at numbers for the 2 right wingers Hayes and Pitre, the latter has better numbers with alot less games played, no PP time compared to Hayes and no PP goals. Older Pitre scored 4 more goals then Hayes with less games and nowhere near the PP of Hayes.

If I recall, didnt Hayes pay with Othmann the 2nd half of the year?

Numbers above and type of play would suggest Pitre is #1 right winger on the team.
 

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I know Windsor owned us for most of the year last year, hopefully tonight was just a repeat of that. But man, Cranley was very average.
 

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It’s Pre-season. Pre-season. Remember getting beat by Erie 10-2 last pre-season? Yeah. How’d that go once the regular season started? What? 9 straight Flint W’s over them? My only concern from that is Cranley. I didn’t like the look of the goals he gave up in camp and I don’t like those #’s either. I mean give the kid the reigns and let him go for a bit but a back-up plan needs to be ready now because at this point I have as much faith in 17yo Day who’s played a grand total of like 6 OHL games. If it’s that big an issue, they can’t wait until the deadline to fix it. This is not the year to play games and have a Brent Moran situation in net. I still think they should have thrown half their picks at Sarnia for Thornton and had the other half ready to go for a D.
 
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Throw the entire cupboard at London at the deadline for Brochu and Mailloux and they’ll be good.
If Brochu returns to the Knights (no pro contract) I wouldn’t be shocked to see London pedal him early? Very unusual year coming for the Knights. Normally they retool from year to year this one is a bit more of a complete rebuild as they are so young and starless in the forward ranks. Also Brochu as long as he is healthy will draw a huge return even before the deadline. It’s not just picks London will be looking for so getting a body or two in house early could be the added bonus.
 

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If Brochu returns to the Knights (no pro contract) I wouldn’t be shocked to see London pedal him early? Very unusual year coming for the Knights. Normally they retool from year to year this one is a bit more of a complete rebuild as they are so young and starless in the forward ranks. Also Brochu as long as he is healthy will draw a huge return even before the deadline. It’s not just picks London will be looking for so getting a body or two in house early could be the added bonus.
So, I kind of turn to the DiPietro deal as a gauge for recent superstar goalie deals. I would consider them pretty close as far as talent level with Brochu having somewhat less actual value as an OA. When stripped down to what it actually was, it was basically DiPietro and a 4th for Afanseyev and 3 2nd round picks. I haven’t really evaluated the entire market for OA goalies and teams looking to make a run where an OA netminder makes sense but I would expect Brochu to be a bit cheaper. How much? Maybe we will see. Edit: I should add, London would likely have to take Cranley in return. Being a St.Louis signed netminder Flint isn’t going to want to burn that bridge with the Blues by releasing him with no where to play. Hey, maybe he pulls it together and there’s no need for Brochu or he’s playing well enough to offset the cost a bit? I just think now Flint is in the position of needing to ensure he has a landing spot and if he’s only playing to back-up goalie level as an OA that’s could be an issue.
 
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So, SarniaStingFan just posted on the OA thread. If correct it appears that a certain number teams are carrying an extra 11 OA’s that will need to be moved between them. There are currently 5 open OA spots across the league. One in Peterborough and 2 each in Ottawa and Owen Sound. Now all 3 of those teams are likely to add and go after a Championship run. Based on those numbers I could certainly see a team paying a bit to add Panwar but I’m not sure about Terry unless a team really needs a steadying stay at home D presence that can contribute a bit offensively.
 

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So, SarniaStingFan just posted on the OA thread. If correct it appears that a certain number teams are carrying an extra 11 OA’s that will need to be moved between them. There are currently 5 open OA spots across the league. One in Peterborough and 2 each in Ottawa and Owen Sound. Now all 3 of those teams are likely to add and go after a Championship run. Based on those numbers I could certainly see a team paying a bit to add Panwar but I’m not sure about Terry unless a team really needs a steadying stay at home D presence that can contribute a bit offensively.
Petes have two open OA spots. NB might be without their OA D for an extended period.
 

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A bit chippy! That Jodoin headshot was awfully punk especially in a pre-season game. There are some hard decisions coming for the Firebirds staff. Pitters looked good, Assinewai had a hell of a 3rd period, I now see why everybody was pencilling Bradshaw into the lineup. Day looked confident, steady and solid. He’s ready to be the BUG based on that performance. The new D kid Jenken? I like him, he’s gonna see some minutes this year. I think Reed Gee will too. I was liking his game early on before he got tossed. That is really good news for Flint who will be a bit thin on D if Terry goes. First time they’ve had a standing room only preseason game. Hopefully that transitions to the regular season at the rink.
 
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How’s Will Cranley doing for the Firebirds? Do you guys know that the condition was on the pick? Good luck this season.
 

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So, SarniaStingFan just posted on the OA thread. If correct it appears that a certain number teams are carrying an extra 11 OA’s that will need to be moved between them. There are currently 5 open OA spots across the league. One in Peterborough and 2 each in Ottawa and Owen Sound. Now all 3 of those teams are likely to add and go after a Championship run. Based on those numbers I could certainly see a team paying a bit to add Panwar but I’m not sure about Terry unless a team really needs a steadying stay at home D presence that can contribute a bit offensively.
Owen Sound has ONE open OA spot....they have Chenard and Seed
 

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How’s Will Cranley doing for the Firebirds? Do you guys know that the condition was on the pick? Good luck this season.
He wasn’t to good in our first exhibition this seadon, but knowone was. He is at the St. Louis Blues training camp right now. Should be back very soon.
 

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4 goals and counting for Riley Piercy in the Redwings prospect tournament w 4 min left to play.
 
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