HF Habs: Flames or Panthers 1st Round Pick 2025

[rahad]

Edmonton has passed them. I don't have a lot of confidence in Colorado due to their absolutely horrific goaltending.

Right now, Calgary is really strong at home (.750 winning percentage), and really shitty on the road (.385).

I expect them to eventually fall into .500 territory, as long as they stay there that'll keep them out of top & around 12/13.

If they decide to sell because they don't want to give us that high of a pick, I would go all in on Andersson. And, if they fall to bottom of standings due to that, oh well.

Colorado won't be out of playoff. Not with a semi generational forward and defenseman. They will make it into the playoff.

I hope you are right. The last 3 years, we did not have much luck with our second first round pick. This year will probably be our last year of tanking. Having a top 5 and a 11-15 pick in the first round will be great for us. The dream scenario will be to draft in 2025 like San Jose (#1 and #11 2024 draft)!

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Colorado won't be out of playoff. Not with a semi generational forward and defenseman. They will make it into the playoff.

I hope you are right. The last 3 years, we did not have much luck with our second first round pick. This year will probably be our last year of tanking. Having a top 5 and a 11-15 pick in the first round will be great for us. The dream scenario will be to draft in 2025 like San Jose (#1 and #11 2024 draft)!

What are you talking about. Hage is probably the 3rd best forward in the 2024 draft.

 

[Habby4Life]

What are you talking about. Hage is probably the 3rd best forward in the 2024 draft.

Nope.
Celebrini, Demidov, Sennecke, Ignila, Catton to name a few.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Colorado won't be out of playoff. Not with a semi generational forward and defenseman. They will make it into the playoff.

I hope you are right. The last 3 years, we did not have much luck with our second first round pick. This year will probably be our last year of tanking. Having a top 5 and a 11-15 pick in the first round will be great for us. The dream scenario will be to draft in 2025 like San Jose (#1 and #11 2024 draft)!

I just checked our extra first round picks and one is one of the best players in the NCAA with a terrible supporting cast and the other was playing PPG hockey in the AHL before his injury.

 

[rahad]

I just checked our extra first round picks and one is one of the best players in the NCAA with a terrible supporting cast and the other was playing PPG hockey in the AHL before his injury.

I has talking more about our second first round pick being late. We did not got ''lucky'' and had 2 first round pick in the top 15 Like San Jose, Chicago or Ottawa (#2 and #5 in 2020 draft).

2022: #26 2023: Florida going to the Stanley cup and 2024: 26 (before we trade).

We are all hoping Calgary pick end up in the range of #11-15. So we have 2 first round picks in the top 15 in the 2025 draft.

 

[wedge]

I'm losing confidence in Calgary. The losses are starting to come way more often, as expected. I don't think they'll stay out of the bottom-10 much longer.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I has talking more about our second first round pick being late. We did not got ''lucky'' and had 2 first round pick in the top 15 Like San Jose, Chicago or Ottawa (#2 and #5 in 2020 draft).

2022: #26 2023: Florida going to the Stanley cup and 2024: 26 (before we trade).

We are all hoping Calgary pick end up in the range of #11-15. So we have 2 first round picks in the top 15 in the 2025 draft.

Ah I got you!

My bad.

I'm losing confidence in Calgary. The losses are starting to come way more often, as expected. I don't think they'll stay out of the bottom-10 much longer.

The west is pretty weak, they should consistently beat up on Anaheim, Chicago etc.

Not all is lost.

 

[JustAHabFan]

Nope.
Celebrini, Demidov, Sennecke, Ignila, Catton to name a few.

I give you Celebrini and Demidov. For Sennecke. Iginla, and Catton, I will put it under remained to be seen.

 

[HuGort]

Like to get Desnoyers with this pick. Around 12-14th. I think he will slide a little. I would trade Savard at draft for late first to trade up

 

[HabzSauce]

I'm losing confidence in Calgary. The losses are starting to come way more often, as expected. I don't think they'll stay out of the bottom-10 much longer.

Then non playoff teams in the west are all garbage. I think they hang around #10-12 in their conference

 

[Habs7631]

Flames up 1-0 vs Columbus after 2 , outplaying the Jackets hard. Might end the losing streak tonight!

 

[rahad]

Like to get Desnoyers with this pick. Around 12-14th. I think he will slide a little. I would trade Savard at draft for late first to trade up

Good luck trading Savard for a late first round pick.

 

[red devil]

Like to get Desnoyers with this pick. Around 12-14th. I think he will slide a little. I would trade Savard at draft for late first to trade up

Savard will be a ufa and won't be worth a 1st at the trade deadline, he definitely won't be worth a 1st at the draft

 

[LaP]

Good luck trading Savard for a late first round pick.

Well we got a 1st for Chiarot i would not rule the 1st out Savard is a RHD with experience who won a cup. Never underestimate the stupidity of some NHL GMS.

 

[Habs7631]

Flames win and Panthers lose, another great night. Flames pick #21 and Panthers pick #22.

 

[McGees]

Like to get Desnoyers with this pick. Around 12-14th. I think he will slide a little. I would trade Savard at draft for late first to trade up

Savard getting you a 1st days are long gone amigo.

 

[Scriptor]

Like to get Desnoyers with this pick. Around 12-14th. I think he will slide a little. I would trade Savard at draft for late first to trade up

Savard will not land you a late first. Matheson would.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Savard will not land you a late first. Matheson would.

Matheson should get more than a late first.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Calgary shuts out CBJ (pick #21). Florida is only 4-5-1 in last 10. They've been struggling for a bit, but still sit with 24th pick.

Calgary hosts St. Louis on Thursday. Definitely a winnable game.

Florida is on the road @ Philadelphia. A potential loss as Flyers are playing extremely well right now, 7-2-1 in last 10. Flyers have caught the NYR.

 

[HuGort]

Savard getting you a 1st days are long gone amigo.

Big heavy right shot D with a ring are in high demand at deadline

 

[Intangir]

Big heavy right shot D with a ring are in high demand at deadline

Yeah, but Savard hasn't played that well this year so that will cost us some on the value.

I think we could give a second-round pick alongside Savard and get back a first. We're at that point of our rebuild where quality>>>quantity, and we should be looking to consolidate our picks.

Let's say it's the worst-case scenario for us and we get the 8-10th pick and Florida's 26th+ pick; a draft of whomever our management prefers/is left of Eklund/Spence/Desnoyers/Frondell/Smith/Lakovic + trading-up for a guy like Jake O'Brien wouldn't be bad.

 

[rahad]

Well we got a 1st for Chiarot i would not rule the 1st out Savard is a RHD with experience who won a cup. Never underestimate the stupidity of some NHL GMS.

Seriously, people here underestimate Chariot here. 6ft3 and 29 years old during his trade. He just come from a stanley cup final. I hardly believe Savard would bring us a first round pick. Maybe a second or third at best.

 

[26Mats]

Yeah, but Savard hasn't played that well this year so that will cost us some on the value.

I think we could give a second-round pick alongside Savard and get back a first. We're at that point of our rebuild where quality>>>quantity, and we should be looking to consolidate our picks.

Let's say it's the worst-case scenario for us and we get the 8-10th pick and Florida's 26th+ pick; a draft of whomever our management prefers/is left of Eklund/Spence/Desnoyers/Frondell/Smith/Lakovic + trading-up for a guy like Jake O'Brien wouldn't be bad.

All of our 2nds are from non playoff teams (Montreal, Pit, Columbus). So if we give up a 2nd to get a 1st in the Savard deal, it will be trading Savard to move up from like 45th to 32nd, or 40th to 26th.

And I would still do it though!

 

[le_sean]

Seriously, people here underestimate Chariot here. 6ft3 and 29 years old during his trade. He just come from a stanley cup final. I hardly believe Savard would bring us a first round pick. Maybe a second or third at best.

Savard is a RD, which is more sought after. He also actually won a Cup unlike Chiarot.

I mean Sean Walker was traded for a 1st. Joel Edmundson of all players for a 3rd and 5th. Andrew Peeke for Zboril and a 3rd. Some team will be desperate for Savard.

 

[LaP]

Seriously, people here underestimate Chariot here. 6ft3 and 29 years old during his trade. He just come from a stanley cup final. I hardly believe Savard would bring us a first round pick. Maybe a second or third at best.

People also underestimate how stupid NHL GMs can be when they panic. At the TDL it's more than very possible than a GM needs a RHD with experience and fan on the best options and do a panic move. When the Laffs signed Jeff Finger everyone knew it was a terrible contract but their GM still signed it.