GDT: Flames @ Leafs | Nov 10; 7pm EST

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To be honest, I think a big part of the problem right now is it's clear that Keefe and Treveling are NOT on the same page at all...
Yeah that’s another problem it appears. Let’s see where this all goes, some drama this season for sure
 
I didn't expect Leafs to win this.

I didn't expect Nylander to take another step up the ladder.

I have been entertained and I have been disappointed.

The score is close completely based on coaching.

If you can bench Huberdeau you can bench a line that makes less than he does.

Matthews could use some extra minutes because the 1st. line isn't getting anything done.
 
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Meh. He was okay offensively when he was receiving passes from a HoF center he was still terrible defensively and cared about conditioning less than Phil Kessel leading to his career ending well before it should have.

He is funny on overdrive though
Wingers in general didn't backcheck at all during those years, he looked total fine during their 2002 cup run.

He was absolutely terrible when he played for the Leafs though.
 
It's on Keefe that the personnel don't play with grit? We have been here for 8 years with two different coaches. This group of players just don't play that game.

It’s okay to mold some players into an archetype of the style of game you want them to play.

There’s nothing wrong with asking players to scrum it up, throw open ice hits, run someone, face wash someone, just have some physicality.

Especially when your teammates are being taken advantage of.

I see nothing wrong with demanding the whole team plays bigger than they are.

Just because Willy doesn’t like to play all that physical doesn’t mean he can’t. Matthews can be an absolute bull.

Maybe Marner you might lose that battle with, but not JT. He knows how to hit and muck it up and retaliate. If you’re JT and you’re getting a high stick uncalled high stick across the face, go ahead and hack an ankle.

If you’re Sammy and the crease is getting crowded, tell him it’s okay to whack a two-hander across the back of Bennet’s knees.

Kampf, jarnkrok, knies, everyone.

The whole team plays tough, no matter how uncomfortable you are with it.

I bet most of these guys would play a lot tougher in an environment like Boston demands
 
We have a game tomorrow, still need to roll 4 lines.

Throw in Marner / Bertuzzi / Jarn on the 4th and bench Reaves.
I would send them a strong message today. Bench Reaves tomorrow and play fourth line more tomorrow and pray they respond. Its 3at night here need my sleep, i might feel different about this tomorrow. I want to wake up to a win at least. Good nigth leaffans werever you are!
 
No way Clifford is worse than Reaves, right now
He’d probably get a 5min major over soemthing dumb but honestly at this point it’s still more then what Reeves brings.
I know reeves brings nothing but an underrated aspect of Trevelings seemingly bad signings is not just the new guys but how bad David Kampf has been
i can agree though he literally playing shorthanded every time he’s on the ice.
 
I know reeves brings nothing but an underrated aspect of Trevelings seemingly bad signings is not just the new guys but how bad David Kampf has been
I doubt he had much to do with that one. Surely Shanny and Keefe had their say and Brad was like fair enough
 
Inshallah
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To be honest, I think a big part of the problem right now is it's clear that Keefe and Treveling are NOT on the same page at all...
I don’t dislike Keefe as a coach. They are better ones out there but there are a lot that are worse too. But that said I still agree. I think any coach will struggle to get this team to defend well the way it’s currently constructed but they certainly aren’t built to play the way Keefe likes to coach and he hasn’t been able to adapt. Even if I think it would be quite difficult with this roster it’s his job to do it.
 
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