Five members from Canada’s 2018 world junior team (Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote and Formenton) told to surrender to police, facing sexual assault charges

[wraithsonwings]

'... to refer to not being involved in a SA incident as a "lucky bounce".'

I hope he just means that being unable (?) to attend the gala, and therefore not under suspicion, is the lucky part.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

This was the team they drew some of the character names from - Johnstown Jets at eliteprospects.com

look at the PIM's HAHAHAHAHA reality wasn't at all far from the movie

 

[Chainshot]

look at the PIM's HAHAHAHAHA

If you want fun, look at things like various NHL teams in '91-92. Three of the top four of all time for PIMs in a season were that year (Buffalo, Calgary, Chicago) or '88-89 with three of the top ten (Chicago again, Pittsburgh, NJ).

Or sort this and realize the top three were all on the same line and all scored 20 goals - Rochester Americans at eliteprospects.com

 

[Deadly Dogma]

If you want fun, look at things like various NHL teams in '91-92. Three of the top four of all time for PIMs in a season were that year (Buffalo, Calgary, Chicago) or '88-89 with three of the top ten (Chicago again, Pittsburgh, NJ).

Or sort this and realize the top three were all on the same line and all scored 20 goals - Rochester Americans at eliteprospects.com

going to 1 of those games must have been crazy,
we just don't see anything like that anymore

 

[WATTAGE4451]

Toxic masculinity is a myth and should stop being used in the continued attempts to demonize masculinity as some sort of abnormal trait and is inherently evil. Masculinity is healthy, displays strength of character, assertive. conducive to productivity, caring and loving.

It's the behavior that is toxic which can also be present with women displaying awful behavior. But it is never described as "toxic femininity".

The 5 men charged and what they are being accused is shameful, awful and criminal behavior that good human beings don't display. It has zero to do with masculinity.

Im not even sure what really qualifies as masculinity. It seems it changes and can mean anything based on what point peopel are trying to make as the definition seems to have a wide range.

 

[PunchImlach is Alive]

Really sad we've hit the "toxic masculinity is a myth" stage of this conversation and some take the notion of it as some imaginary war on men.

 

[WATTAGE4451]

idk saying his comments basically saying "Thank God I didn't get the chance to be complicit" doesnt really point to him having an understanding of the gravity of what occured to the victim (only suggests an understanding of the perpetrators and what they're facing). Should have kept his mouth shut

His comments dont say that. That is a horrible spin. He means hes lucky hes not there because he doesnt have to be in position speculating if he was one of the people in the room etc. He has rock solid alibi no matter what. Wasnt the best choice of words but no need to try and twist his words into some weird stretch to be offended by.

 

[Ezekial]

Good example of toxic masculinity right here. Someone digs down the courage to speak out against nonsense and is told "don't be so fragile"

The guy dug down and had the courage to say "toxic masulinity doesn't exist"


Then went on to show everyone that he thinks people are saying all masculinity is toxic when they say toxic masculinity.

 

[Crosby2010]

Y'all always say this as if posting feelings about it on the internet is going to change the fact that there's going to be a trial and a result will be had.

Unless you've never changed your mind after things are presented or acknowledged you were/are wrong, there's literally no point in saying what you're saying. You're allowed to feel a way based on what we already know.

Like, are you also going on trade threads and telling people not to have any opinions on the trade and who won because "the trade hasn't played out on the ice yet"? Honestly these things are confounding to me.

I am saying what I am saying because a civilized society is supposed to be built among other things on the fact that you are innocent until proven guilty. These aren't radical viewpoints.

 

[RR44]

Really sad we've hit the "toxic masculinity is a myth" stage of this conversation and some take the notion of it as some imaginary war on men.

When masculinity continues to be perpetuated by those who want to turn a lie into a truth that masculinity is evil...I will continue to speak up about how wrong that is.

 

[Ezekial]

When masculinity continues to be perpetuated by those who want to turn a lie into a truth that masculinity is evil...I will continue to speak up about how wrong that is.

Yes, traditional strong men are demonized completely in this society

Look at the Rock, Jason Mamoa, and John Cena.

None of those men display traits of toxic masulinity.

 

[PunchImlach is Alive]

When masculinity continues to be perpetuated by those who want to turn a lie into a truth that masculinity is evil...I will continue to speak up about how wrong that is.

Can you point to the instance where someone said all masculinity is evil?

 

[SniperHF]

People arguing about their favorite political hobby horse is why these threads get closed.
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[super6646]

People arguing about their favorite political hobby horse is why these threads get closed.
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In b4 lock

 

[SniperHF]

In b4 lock

Aren't we always in before the lock? It just depends on when the lock is.

 

[ZDH]

Don't worry guys if they lock it I'll fire another one up.

NO SPECULATING

 

[BB79]

When masculinity continues to be perpetuated by those who want to turn a lie into a truth that masculinity is evil...I will continue to speak up about how wrong that is.

Good man

Sorry if that was too toxic for anyone to read. I'll stop.

 

[Ezekial]

Good man

Sorry if that was too toxic for anyone to read. I'll stop.

It's becoming apparent you don't have a grasp of the word toxic.

 

[Primary Assist]

Don't worry guys if they lock it I'll fire another one up.

NO SPECULATING

You made me a fine chunk of change speculating on ADA in 2021. Good, good memories

 

[BB79]

It's becoming apparent you don't have a grasp of the word toxic.

It's become apparent you don't grasp that both sexes can be toxic yet only one is consistently demonized

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Any updates?

 

[333359]

The fragility is from those who use the term "toxic masculinity" as a way to demonize the strength and virture of masculinity

Can you name some examples? Or do you just feel it in your gut?

 

[theVladiator]

Toxic masculinity is a myth and should stop being used in the continued attempts to demonize masculinity as some sort of abnormal trait and is inherently evil. Masculinity is healthy, displays strength of character, assertive. conducive to productivity, caring and loving.

It's the behavior that is toxic which can also be present with women displaying awful behavior. But it is never described as "toxic femininity".

The 5 men charged and what they are being accused is shameful, awful and criminal behavior that good human beings don't display. It has zero to do with masculinity.

What I think term "toxic masculinity" means, is that the society (as a whole, or in certain pockets of it) has certain expectations and standards for male behaviour that are at closer examination are harmful to others and society and general. Examples: aggression, violence, control and dominance. There is no term for toxic femininity, because there are no such negative societal pressures for female behaviour.

Now, there are men and women that do bad things, but the term applies not to individual behaviour, but to society's standards/stereotypes/pressures.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Aren't we always in before the lock? It just depends on when the lock is.

why get in before the lock when you can be the reason lol

 

[MasterofGrond]

Toxic masculinity is a myth and should stop being used in the continued attempts to demonize masculinity as some sort of abnormal trait and is inherently evil. Masculinity is healthy, displays strength of character, assertive. conducive to productivity, caring and loving.

It's the behavior that is toxic which can also be present with women displaying awful behavior. But it is never described as "toxic femininity".

The 5 men charged and what they are being accused is shameful, awful and criminal behavior that good human beings don't display. It has zero to do with masculinity.

You're really just telling on yourself with this type of statement. Equating "toxic masculinity" with "masculinity is inherently evil" just means you can't conceive of masculinity without the specific aspects of it that the phrase "toxic masculinity" is generally used to refer to. You're the one who believes that masculinity intrinsically encompasses traits society has judged to be negative.