Five members from Canada’s 2018 world junior team (Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote and Formenton) told to surrender to police, facing sexual assault charges

[Konnan511]

The Boys in the Boat was decent and I liked Hustle from Adam Sandler.

Some other quality ones to recommend just peeking at my Plex...

RACE
Rudy
We Are Marshall
Southpaw
Friday Night Lights
Trouble With the Curve
The Rookie
The Fighter
Million Dollar Baby
He Got Game
Moneyball
Blue Chips
42
Jerry Maguire
White Men Can't Jump (OG of course)
Creed 1-3

A person of fine taste I see.

 

[Edgelord]

A person of fine taste I see.

100%, thats a great list!!

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I watched Ferrari last night, It was OK, I get the man had an interesting life and is somewhat an antihero, but if I'm watching a movie called Ferrari, I want more Ferrari's lol, also the CGI for some of the crashes was just bad.

Ya, I was not entertained much by that one.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Came to see what's up. Have a list what movies to watch . Where the discussion Lebovski?

 

[Edgelord]

Ya, I was not entertained much by that one.

they really didn't pull any punches for the crash scene near the end eh lol

 

[Chainshot]

I also liked Mr. Baseball. lol.

Favorite quotes:

"Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun"

"Baseball is grown men getting paid to play a game. When you were a kid, I bet you didn't pick up a bat and ball because you were dying to work. A player's career is short enough. Let them enjoy it."

It's odd that in a massive tangent about sports-based cinema, there has been so little mention of "Slapshot".

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

A person of fine taste I see.

100%, thats a great list!!

Thanks! That means you too!

I like to pass along recommendations from my library since so much ends up off peoples radar when at the mercy of what's on their streaming services. So many great movies practically buried.

 

[Edgelord]

Came to see what's up. Have a list what movies to watch . Where the discussion Lebovski?

soo many good ones tho!!

 

[I am toxic]

There was a Globe & Mail article discussing how the interview Danielle Rideout did with the victim had different questions and answers than what the police had probed.

Also, the victim went to police first, tried to rescind her claim, then rescinded her previous rescindment, so I think the police felt they were in a "he said, she said" type of scenario and didn't pursue charges. This doesn't mean the police didn't think something uncouth had occurred, it just means that there wasn't enough in the claim to warrant resources for a criminal investigation.

This was also at the beginning of the MeToo uptick, so I'm guessing police sensitivity and training was lagging a few years.

edit: to clarify, the victim had told player 1 that it was her mom pressuring her to go to the police, and that she would work to make it go away, but this was only in discussion with player 1 and not reflective of what was actually happening

This is complete and utter bullshit.

Here is the what actually happened:

The woman, known only as E.M. in court documents, spoke exclusively with The Globe in August. Though bound by a confidentiality agreement at the time as part of the legal settlement, which restricted what she could say, E.M. revealed she cooperated with police in 2018, which contradicted Hockey Canada’s public claims that she did not assist the investigation. Hockey Canada was later forced to correct those statements. E.M. told The Globe she never sought attention, but only wanted accountability from her alleged attackers. The Globe was also given access to a polygraph test E.M. was given, which she passed.

Like you, Hockey Canada spread bullshit attempting to discredit the victim. And why you would defend the Lonson Police's handling of the first investigation is totally beyond me*.

Anyway, looks like the accused gang rapists will have to pass polygraph tests if they don't want to be found guilty on a balance of probabilities.

But excuse me for being off topic in a thread about sports movies.

*I'm lying, it's not, just like why people pretend toxic masculinity doesn't exist. I fully understand why certain people promulgate that bullshit.

 

[Edgelord]

Thanks! That means you too!

I like to pass along recommendations from my library since so much ends up off peoples radar when at the mercy of what's on their streaming services. So many great movies practically buried.

I wonder how many of us are going to be watching movies tonight?

 

[Leonardo87]

It's odd that in a massive tangent about sports-based cinema, there has been so little mention of "Slapshot".

Slapshot was awesome. Can watch that over and over again.

"I'm listening to the F'ing song" lol.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

they really didn't pull any punches for the crash scene near the end eh lol

That's an understatement! Kind of gruesome really. But ya, the CG takes you out of it a bit. All too common nowadays.

 

[Ezekial]

It's odd that in a massive tangent about sports-based cinema, there has been so little mention of "Slapshot".

Hot take on a hockey forum I bet, but Slapshot stinks.

 

[Edgelord]

That's an understatement! Kind of gruesome really. But ya, the CG takes you out of it a bit. All too common nowadays.

Its like that Irish PSA, it starts out all nice with an acoustic version of sweet child of mine then OMFG, ok I will never speed again!!!

 

[MXD]

I suppose Dazed and Confused could pass as a baseball movie.

 

[RR44]

It presents a conundrum in that you need that theme of toxic masculinity in sports if you want to be the best, yet that same toxic masculinity brings all the negatives we want to get rid of.

Toxic masculinity is a myth and should stop being used in the continued attempts to demonize masculinity as some sort of abnormal trait and is inherently evil. Masculinity is healthy, displays strength of character, assertive. conducive to productivity, caring and loving.

It's the behavior that is toxic which can also be present with women displaying awful behavior. But it is never described as "toxic femininity".

The 5 men charged and what they are being accused is shameful, awful and criminal behavior that good human beings don't display. It has zero to do with masculinity.

 

[Ezekial]

I suppose Dazed and Confused could pass as a baseball movie.

 

[Chainshot]

Slapshot was awesome. Can watch that over and over again.

"I'm listening to the F'ing song" lol.

My favorite tidbit about it was that the screenplay was written by Nancy Dowd by following her brother Ned's minor pro team around. A bunch of the off-the-wall stuff (think of the guys beating the hotel clerk with the plant) were things that actually happened. It's part of why all the subsequent attempts have been so, so terrible - they aren't actually getting anything from following a team, they're trying to make up goofy things and fit stereotypes.

Ned's stat page - Ned Dowd at eliteprospects.com

 

[WarriorOfGandhi]

It's odd that in a massive tangent about sports-based cinema, there has been so little mention of "Slapshot".

in fairness, Slapshot is nearly 50 years old. It's closer in time to the actual careers of Eddie Shore and Toe Blake than it is to a modern audience.

 

[Edgelord]

My favorite tidbit about it was that the screenplay was written by Nancy Dowd by following her brother Ned's minor pro team around. A bunch of the off-the-wall stuff (think of the guys beating the hotel clerk with the plant) were things that actually happened. It's part of why all the subsequent attempts have been so, so terrible - they aren't actually getting anything from following a team, they're trying to make up goofy things and fit stereotypes.

Ned's stat page - Ned Dowd at eliteprospects.com

I didn't know this, this is great info

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I wonder how many of us are going to be watching movies tonight?

He, a few I'd say!

Hot take on a hockey forum I bet, but Slapshot stinks.

I don't know about stinks, but overrated imo. I enjoyed Goon more tbh.

We need some better hockey movies in general though.

Its like that Irish PSA, it starts out all nice with an acoustic version of sweet child of mine then OMFG, ok I will never speed again!!!

Ha ya, driving those speeds, Shit Can And Probably Will Happen! Like those tiktoks of imbeciles speeding through cities at insane speeds.

I suppose Dazed and Confused could pass as a baseball movie.

Haha well, if not, Matthew Mc's famous line might have at least some loose relevance to this thread lol

 

[Edgelord]

Toxic masculinity is a myth and should stop being used in the continued attempts to demonize masculinity as some sort of abnormal trait and is inherently evil. Masculinity is healthy, displays strength of character, assertive. conducive to productivity, caring and loving.

It's the behavior that is toxic which can also be present with women displaying awful behavior. But it is never described as "toxic femininity".

The 5 men charged and what they are being accused is shameful, awful and criminal behavior that good human beings don't display. It has zero to do with masculinity.

I agree, real masculinity would dictate they should have protected her, not taken advantage

 

[Chainshot]

I didn't know this, this is great info

This was the team they drew some of the character names from - Johnstown Jets at eliteprospects.com

 

[BB79]

It presents a conundrum in that you need that theme of toxic masculinity in sports if you want to be the best, yet that same toxic masculinity brings all the negatives we want to get rid of.

how many sexual assult lawsuits do the top 50 players in each league have on them? The vast majority don't so that's bologna. I don't even think any of these guys are in that bracket anyways.

As an aside, I'd say let's talk about toxic feminism for a change but a quick Google search shows how most institutions are trying to define it. The first thing they do unsurprisingly is blame men.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

It was a little shocking to see the London police chief offer an apology to the complainant and her family, especially before the trial has even gotten underway.

This is basically admitting to a bad investigation and the media seized upon the opportunity to get him to say that outright but he danced around the question. Hopefully the second investigation was meticulous because the defense is likely going to pick the second investigation apart trying to find even the slightest procedural error they can point to and say look they basically admitted to a bad investigation the first time around and then they made mistakes the second time in attempt to win on a technicality.

I’m still of the opinion that the original investigators and prosecutors looked at those videos and thought that would be a really difficult piece of evidence to overcome in order to secure conviction and deciddd against further investigation or charges. I’m really curious what new evidence has come to light with the second investigation, it has to be that they were able to secure witness testimony that will corroborate the complainants claims that she made the statements in the video under duress. Likely witnesses who were there but not involved may have been apprehensive about providing information against their teammates until pressure was applied on them that they could potentially be charged in some capacity