Five members from Canada’s 2018 world junior team (Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote and Formenton) told to surrender to police, facing sexual assault charges

[thegazelle]

Don't forget the whole unsolicited diatribe about how women dress and how the media portrays them being the reason behind all of this.

Agree. Whether there is some truth to this or not, it really makes the Chief look like he is just playing defensive and / or evasive (probably both). Yet he claims he is transparent. Not exactly instilling confidence with the public going forward.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

They cut someone off asking about if someone (didn't hear who) had interfered with the initial investigation. Well... that went about as sideways as one could expect.

It was clear on my feed, basically it was whether anybody from the NHL interfered with the original investigation. That was followed by "We are ending questions." Probably just a coincidence since they were ending the press conference anyway ..... but about as bad for the NHL a hanging question as could even be imagined.

 

[Edgelord]

It was clear on my feed, basically it was whether anybody from the NHL interfered with the original investigation. That was followed by "We are ending questions." Probably just a coincidence since they were ending the press conference anyway ..... but about as bad for the NHL a hanging question as could even be imagined.

thats optically bad and I bet will be cut and used by some media.

 

[Seachd]

I’m kind of little frustrated that whether an investigation was bumbled or not seems to be more to the forefront than the sexual assault that caused it.

 

[Lshap]

What the hell are you talking about? This is still totally incoherent and just sounds like you have an axe to grind against social media.

Nobody else seems to have trouble understanding my point. Try again.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

They have hardly answered any questions so no narratives can be created.

Challenge accepted

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I’m kind of little frustrated that whether an investigation was bumbled or not seems to be more to the forefront than the sexual assault that caused it.

To be fair. At this point they basically can't say anything about the case and the sexual assault itself.

The early questions did try to get some more info into the case but after 4-5 responses in a row of essentially "we can't comment on the case right now" it only makes sense from a journalistic standpoint to start asking questions on something you might get answers from.


Ultimately, it's still way too early in this process(Which feels bad to say given it's been 6 years) to really get answers. Maybe by April 30th some questions will have answers.

 

[Rob Brown]

Feels safe to say that none of these guys will be playing for quite a while? I can't imagine the Devils, Flyers, and Flames re-sign any of them this summer.

 

[Pink Mist]

Nobody else seems to have trouble understanding my point. Try again.

Don't mistake nobody speaking up for understanding.

 

[Chainshot]

It was clear on my feed, basically it was whether anybody from the NHL interfered with the original investigation. That was followed by "We are ending questions." Probably just a coincidence since they were ending the press conference anyway ..... but about as bad for the NHL a hanging question as could even be imagined.

Thanks. I didn't hear what it was, only that it was after the question on if they'd had any contact with the NHL, which the detective said they had not "in months".

 

[Jeune Poulet]

I assume, regardless of formal charges, their careers are done.

They will probably be welcomed enthusiastically in the KHL, unfortunately.

Good contracts, fist bumps and everything.

 

[Bone Density]

Feels safe to say that none of these guys will be playing for quite a while? I can't imagine the Devils, Flyers, and Flames re-sign any of them this summer.

No way. The trial isn't going to be until 2026 or so. No one touches them, even after it's settled. Maybe the KHL.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

So what exactly did the police chief say that he is being roasted on?

 

[Pink Mist]

So what exactly did the police chief say that he is being roasted on?

Among other comments, blamed media and video games

 

[Chainshot]

So what exactly did the police chief say that he is being roasted on?

He stepped in when the detective was fielding a question to say that he thinks a problem with sexual assault is the sexualization of women and girls by the media.

 

[timw33]

Well one things for sure, the boys in blue need another ~50MM per year by 2027

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/london-police-budget-1.7013455

 

[TheNewEra]

Feels safe to say that none of these guys will be playing for quite a while? I can't imagine the Devils, Flyers, and Flames re-sign any of them this summer.

A couple of teams don't care so unfortunately they probably will be playing again barring jail time

 

[Gregor Samsa]

He stepped in when the detective was fielding a question to say that he thinks a problem with sexual assault is the sexualization of women and girls by the media.

I didn’t watch the press conference but to play devils advocate, is it possible he was trying to draw attention towards bigger issues to promote change but he bungled it and put his foot in his mouth?

 

[VivaLasVegas]

What hard facts did we learn? Feel free to add as appropriate.

(1) The victim told a family member that she had been sexually assaulted the next morning, and the family member reached out to police. The sexual assault unit open an investigation the next day (event + 2).

(2) The victim has fully cooperated with the investigation from the start to now.

(3) The London police force handles a surprising number of sexual assault charges, but does so in consistently a dilatory and potentially inept fashion that has resulted in other criticism from sexual assault victims beyond this case.

(4) The original investigation did not pursue all available leads, including the leads that would eventually lead to charges being made.

(5) McLeod gets two counts of sexual assault, the other players got one charge of sexual assault.

(6) There has been no contact between the London police and the NHL since the investigation was re-opened.

 

[Lshap]

Don't mistake nobody speaking up for understanding.

Feel free to Google Translate my post from english into whatever language you speak.

 

[SoupNazi]

Hahaha London Police is a joke ... at this point..they botched this in 2018 and now it looks bad on them.

I hope no players go to jail because of this.

What?

 

[Seachd]

To be fair. At this point they basically can't say anything about the case and the sexual assault itself.

The early questions did try to get some more info into the case but after 4-5 responses in a row of essentially "we can't comment on the case right now" it only makes sense from a journalistic standpoint to start asking questions on something you might get answers from.


Ultimately, it's still way too early in this process(Which feels bad to say given it's been 6 years) to really get answers. Maybe by April 30th some questions will have answers.

Right. I just mean I don’t want the media to lose focus on the real issue. Yes, it was a police press conference where not much else could be said. It just seems like they’re eager for someone to blame, when after a trial feels like the best time.

 

[Chainshot]

I didn’t watch the press conference but to play devils advocate, is it possible he was trying to draw attention towards bigger issues to promote change but he bungled it and put his foot in his mouth?

Whatever his intent, he handled it poorly.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Well one things for sure, the boys in blue need another ~50MM per year by 2027

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/london-police-budget-1.7013455

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Yeah, one could almost hear him saying "We are terribly under-resourced".

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Whatever his intent, he handled it poorly.

Yeah, sounds like it. I just don’t think saying women are objectified in the media is particularly a bad thing and brings awareness. Probably isn’t the best time to bring it up. Either way it must be awkward representing the organization who seems either bungled or covered up the original investigation.