Post-Game Talk: Fire Everyone

[McRanger]

It's a combination of both. Deny it all you want but they won the President's trophy in a down year from Igor last year. They have immensely talented players. Just replacing Trouba and Lindgren is not making this team any better if they have no compete level. It's a team of coach killer's but it's a "conspiracy theory" to say there are locker room issues. Please.

Replacing Lindgren and Trouba with competent players would make the team significantly better. They are boat anchors to whatever pair they are on and it seems like one of them is always on the ice. They are a huge detriment defensively and offensively.

 

[will1066]

They're coach killers now? 2-3 years is the going rate.

You said the vets are mad that a young player got paid before Igor. That is 100% a conspiracy theory.

After all this time, we still can't admit the team just isn't very good and that's the long and the short of it. Do you guys do this because you're bored when the team is bad?

Oui

 

[NYRFAN218]

I'm not even sure last night was in the top 10 for worst games played this season. The score was embarrassing as well as just the general apathy and lack of urgency or pushback. The game was basically on autopilot after the Devils 5th goal. But they also had plenty of chances and Markstrom was very good while Igor was not very good. Regardless, the same problems persist and the team as a whole just seems very checked out. It's almost like they're waiting for the bomb to drop whatever it may be.

 

[McRanger92]

They're coach killers now? 2-3 years is the going rate.

You said the vets are mad that a young player got paid before Igor. That is 100% a conspiracy theory.

After all this time, we still can't admit the team just isn't very good and that's the long and the short of it. Do you guys do this because you're bored when the team is bad?

They clashed with Quinn in the media because he was too hard on them. He only made it as long as he did because of covid. Gallant wouldve been gone after a year and 2 moths if they didnt win a random game against St. Louis in December of 2022. Laviolette is on the same trajectory. Will he even be the coach by Friday? They absolutely are coach killers.

Im just telling you what happened. Theyve been bad since that contract was signed. Lafreniere and Igor were playing excellent hockey before that, as was the whole team. Now were here. They have few obvious holes on the roster on defense that we've discussed, but its a very talented team that play like individuals and underperform. They need a cultural and personnel change. Desperately.

Replacing Lindgren and Trouba with competent players would make the team significantly better. They are boat anchors to whatever pair they are on and it seems like one of them is always on the ice. They are a huge detriment defensively and offensively.

Will it? Not with the effort they gave last night and previous month. We're past the point of blaming individual gaffes.

 

[will1066]

Get rid of Panarin. Yes, I keep harping on this because it's painful but it's also the solution. But, he's the majority of our offense, and who's going to replace that, you say. Panarin isn't solving our problems now, is he? If anything, he's looked like shit a lot of the times as well. Doesn't bother to backcheck anymore.

The CSI unit has arrived, and Panarin's fingerprints on the team playing hockey like a glorified skills contest are all over the place. We need players to play hockey, not globetrot. It's like figure skaters who couldn't cut it wind up being ice dancers.

 

[Boris Zubov]

It's a combination of both. Deny it all you want but they won the President's trophy in a down year from Igor last year. They have immensely talented players. Just replacing Trouba and Lindgren is not making this team any better if they have no compete level. It's a team of coach killer's but it's a "conspiracy theory" to say there are locker room issues. Please.

Replacing Lindgren and Trouba with competent players would make the team significantly better. They are boat anchors to whatever pair they are on and it seems like one of them is always on the ice. They are a huge detriment defensively and offensively.

I must say I was very confused at first when I saw McRanger replying to McRanger. I don't drink coffee, but I almost went & made myself a cup.

 

[McRanger92]

Get rid of Panarin. Yes, I keep harping on this because it's painful but it's also the solution. But, he's the majority of our offense, and who's going to replace that, you say. Panarin isn't solving our problems now, is he? If anything, he's looked like shit a lot of the times as well.

The CSI unit has arrived, and Panarin's fingerprints of playing hockey like a glorified skills contest are all over the place. We need players to play hockey, not globetrot. It's like figure skaters who couldn't cut it wind up being ice dancers.

Kreider and Zibanejad completely changed as players when Panarin came in. They scored more PP(and PK) goals but they've been zero hustle players at 5v5 since.

 

[bhamill]

I noticed Kreider’s fan boys here have been getting more quiet as of late.

I’ve always said that he’s a good Ranger, should retire as one and was well worth his contract. The last 10 games though….
If he’s not playing injured, then he’s quit on the team, and I take it all back.

 

[Peltz]

Kreider and Zibanejad completely changed as players when Panarin came in. They scored more PP(and PK) goals but they've been zero hustle players at 5v5 since.

Zib was incredible that first year Panarin was here until the Covid break. Like... arguably as good as peak panarin at the time.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Kreider and Zibanejad completely changed as players when Panarin came in. They scored more PP(and PK) goals but they've been zero hustle players at 5v5 since.

Unfortunately the team's entire identity has mimicked Panarin since he got here. It's hard to dislike him because he's so good, but through no fault of his own the core decided that his style of play is the only one they're willing to engage in.

It's run it's course unsuccessfully & only now when we get an injection of new blood that plays with energy is it finally obvious to everyone it will never work in the playoffs. There was a minority of us here that took notice of this during Gallant's first year, but too many fans were fooled by all the games they won the past 3 years.

 

[bhamill]

I missed this game since I was working. Lots of storylines. Am I going to be happy watching the re-run ?

Same boat… deleting it from DVR rather than torturing myself.

 

[McRanger92]

Zib was incredible that first year Panarin was here until the Covid break. Like... arguably as good as peak panarin at the time.

That was Panarin's best year too. I certainly buy that things changed for this team after Covid hit.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I certainly don't hate Laf, but you'd have to blind to notice he's been checked out since he got paid. Coincidence or not, he's back to being that disengaged kid who doesn't move his feet & is allergic to defense.

You'd also have to be one incredible homer not to see that a hypothetical trade of Laf for Brady one for one is a giant win for the Rangers.

Everyone on this team is checked out and he just turned 23. Literally only player playing well that's a regular is Will Cuylle.

 

[JohnC]

That and because he's a weirdo who fights with teammates and rando fans on the internet.

Literally. “Booed for his politics” as if guys on the team don’t have the same politics (Adam Fox, for example).

He sucked at hockey and conducted himself like the South Jersey trash that he is. That’s why he was booed.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

This tinfoil hat stuff is so exhausting.

The team just sucks a f***ing ass.

The amount of posts about the precious locker room. If the team is that mentally weak we need to blow them up.

 

[bhamill]

is core is finished. The players are not finished, any collection of these players will flourish elsewhere, but as constructed currently this roster is no longer competitive.

Zibanejad is a talent center. This is not the team for him

Trouba is an average #4-5 dman. He is not worth $8M and clearly there is a rift with him and management. Gorton is an idiot for giving him an NTC and giving him the leverage to control his destiny. That's shit GMing when Trouba was the one who could have been making the concessions because he needed to be here for personal reasons.

Kreider is an amazing piece that will always put up a 50-60 point performance every year and will bring more than just those points, but a major issue on this team is the kreider-zib combination. While I admit that Drury has completely f***ED himself with no real RW1, there's also the point to be made that clearly NOBODY can play RW with Kreider and Zib.... That's a line construction problem, and yet somehow these guys can't play with anyone else. That's a major problem with this roster and a significant reason why RW1 has been a God damned carousel for the last 5 years

Millers development has stunted here. Either get him some better coaching or move him, this is his ceiling on this team

We better better hope that panarin wants to stick around on a shorter term deal because if he walks we're going to suck so bad. Him, laf, trocheck are the key remaining pieces here

This team needs something NEW, not something BETTER.

New AND better would be nice…

 

[Boris Zubov]

Everyone on this team is checked out and he just turned 23. Literally only player playing well that's a regular is Will Cuylle.

OK but this is moving the goalposts. One has nothing to do with the other.

Even if the team was playing great, this is a trade I make all day every day. Brady is a unicorn....Laf is still a bit of an enigma.

 

[will1066]

I must say I was very confused at first when I saw McRanger replying to McRanger. I don't drink coffee, but I almost went & made myself a cup.

Almost-donuts with your almost-coffee?

 

[Boris Zubov]

Almost-donuts with your almost-coffee?

No, I eat donuts like I'm going to the electric chair.

 

[will1066]

The amount of posts about the precious locker room. If the team is that mentally weak we need to blow them up.

HFNYR: This country-club team is coddled like babies!

HFHYR: Drury really f***ed up hurting this team's feelings!

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Vally is my favorite hockey analyst, but that comment was embarrassing for him.

 

[bhamill]

How about strip Drury the GM and make him coach and make Laviolette GM. Maybe Drury needs to be at ice level to fix the mess he made with those leaks

The “leaks” are to blame? Hahaha. Have we forgotten the REASON for the “leaks” was how f***ing BAD the team was playing? Hahaha. You’re blaming the chemo for the cancer.

 

[Machinehead]

The amount of posts about the precious locker room. If the team is that mentally weak we need to blow them up.

All of the players people hate because they do art, and shit in Laf's helmet, and personally murdered Gerard Gallant are all of our worst players, so by all means, blow it up!

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Tkachuk is kind of a baby. The type of player that will completely blow a backcheck because he's yelling at the ref.

A good player who sure as hell can spark and offense and a forecheck, but his ability to lead a team is overrated and entirely based on vibes.

If you can show me a realistic trade where you got him, sure. Again, he's a very good player. I'm not going to turn down a good player. If you expect him to come here and be Goku or whatever the f***, you're gonna have a bad time. He wouldn't be my captain if we did get him.

The Senators are bad with him because they're a bad team, and we'll continue to be a bad team if we don't overhaul the roster.

He doesn’t have to be the captain if we get him.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

All of the players people hate because they do art, and shit in Laf's helmet, and personally murdered Gerard Gallant are all of our worst players, so by all means, blow it up!

I just can't keep reading this infantilization of the team. And if the posts were critical of these players for it, I'd be like ok. Instead we get people defending the Rangers pouting because of hockey moves and blaming Drury. I wish I were babied like this at my job (whenever I find a new job).