Player Discussion Fire Dustin Schwartz

[fancy dan]

whoa y'all are dramatic.

 

[Stauf4Prez]

Schwartz must have naked pictures of Katz or something. There is literally no other reason that this clown, much like the clown before him Freddy Chabot, should still have a job.

 

[Kerberos]

Let's not pretend that professional sports, and especially the NHL, is a meritocracy.

How many general managers, coaches and front office staff are given chance after chance after chance and then after years of futility get recycled through in other franchises.

It's the furthest thing from a meritocracy. It's an old boy's country club where nepotism reigns and unqualified people are littered throughout every organization.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Well I think they want to win and hire people to help them win. That would make sense to me.


I imagine the people who hire him aren’t of your opinion.

So we're just shit post trolling then, fair enough

Sure they are, but that doesn't mean Schwartz is the best person for the job. In fact, the results pointedly paint the opposite picture as @McAsuno demonstrated. If he's being kept around for any reason other than performance, he's being kept around for the wrong reasons. That goes with anyone in OEG.

He's just trolling for the stupid reasons I'm sure, no need to engage with him seriously

 

[BleedingOil]

He’s only got one of the youngest starting goalies playing at a high level

 

[CanadasTeam99]

He’s only got one of the youngest starting goalies playing at a high level

Is Pickard that young?

 

[BleedingOil]

I guess he also doesn’t get any credit for pickards play

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I guess he also doesn’t get any credit for pickards play

You are correct. As it should be.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

They should do this today, fire Schwartz and send a good message to the fan base.

 

[GrumpyKoala]

As much as Schwartz is definitely a problem, Skinner lack so many of the athletic fundamentals required to play at the highest level that in this case it's a celling issue.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Just f***ing do it already.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

In all seriousness is he friends with the owner? Or what gives?

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

I’m at the point where I want Dusty in prison not just fired. He gets the same type of rope an established coaching legend would have. Where was he before the Oilers? The Oil Kings? That’s it?? Who has he developed? Skinner and Hart?

Fire him into the sun

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

This is the single most harmful Oiler in history. He's even worse than Chiarelli and Eakins.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

This is the single most harmful Oiler in history. He's even worse than Chiarelli and Eakins.

He’s been here a f***ing decade and survived numerous regime changes. What the hell.

 

[JustNapalmIt]

It’s just so disappointing. Schwartz played so well last year and had being playing so well this year when Pikard was in net. Now it’s just gone to shit.

 

[Sethual]

His stats to get drafted and make it in the NHL were PATHETIC. He was ATE UP imagine playing a season with 3 wins and 14 losses. Dude is hardcore the reason why McDavid never saw the cup yet. We started out pathetically in Woodcrofts prime and we threw him away when we needed the G upgrades and D upgrades and F upgrades for A DECADE.

Also like I said this Dustin guy never made it far besides playing for the U of A and posting .908-.931 save % and anyways he sucks. His mental game was weak from the start he never got anywhere beyond Canadian university hockey, yet has been here shitting up our goalies since 2015-16! Pathetic human being for sure: Dustin Schwartz Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com & Dustin Schwartz - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

He apparently works with the Forwards too, so extra reason to fire him

 

[JustNapalmIt]

His stats to get drafted and make it in the NHL were PATHETIC. He was ATE UP imagine playing a season with 3 wins and 14 losses. Dude is hardcore the reason why McDavid never saw the cup yet. We started out pathetically in Woodcrofts prime and we threw him away when we needed the G upgrades and D upgrades and F upgrades for A DECADE.

Also like I said this Dustin guy never made it far besides playing for the U of A and posting .908-.931 save % and anyways he sucks. His mental game was weak from the start he never got anywhere beyond Canadian university hockey, yet has been here shitting up our goalies since 2015-16! Pathetic human being for sure: Dustin Schwartz Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com & Dustin Schwartz - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Agreed. Knoblauch should be canned too. He wasn’t really a pro.
Bring in Gretzky. That guy knew how to play!

 

[brentashton]

His stats to get drafted and make it in the NHL were PATHETIC. He was ATE UP imagine playing a season with 3 wins and 14 losses. Dude is hardcore the reason why McDavid never saw the cup yet. We started out pathetically in Woodcrofts prime and we threw him away when we needed the G upgrades and D upgrades and F upgrades for A DECADE.

Also like I said this Dustin guy never made it far besides playing for the U of A and posting .908-.931 save % and anyways he sucks. His mental game was weak from the start he never got anywhere beyond Canadian university hockey, yet has been here shitting up our goalies since 2015-16! Pathetic human being for sure: Dustin Schwartz Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com & Dustin Schwartz - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

I am in no way defending Dustin Schwartz. He is an abysmal failure as a goalie coach with the Oilers. As for being a pathetic human being, I don’t think that’s the case but I won’t even get involved in that discussion with you.

But, you do not have to have had an NHL career to even remotely qualify you to be a successful goalie coach. Mitch Korn, the Allaire brothers all parlayed a keen sense of how to use a combination of the team’s and the goalie’s strengths/weaknesses; knowledge of solid position fundamentals to develop a number of quality players at the position.

The problem with Schwartz is his CV indicates he can’t do this - multiple management structures where he has failed with the same middling results, a number of goalies he’s worked with and the same middling results.

This failure is on management to not assess the outputs of the coach and act accordingly. Who knows, maybe under a different coach Stu looks, plays and has different results. (I’m stretching there but trying to find a positive).