Sens Vader
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Proposal: Fire DJ Smith
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BonHoonLayneCornell
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Lets just bring in old Torts after he's let go and bring on Keenan and Crawford as the assistants.
The boys will be on their toes and always wondering which direction the next tongue lashing is coming from.
The boys will be on their toes and always wondering which direction the next tongue lashing is coming from.
aragorn
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I don't see this coaching staff or the GM being fired given the success they have had this yr considering all the injuries to so many key players all yr long unless the new ownership bring their own people with them. If not, this group will have next yr to get into the playoffs & be evaluated based on next yr's success or non-success. Sports is a business where you have to win to keep your job & only one team gets to win each yr, that leaves all other teams to re-evaluate where they are & where they want to be. It's also a long season & as long as you are in the race & have a chance to make the playoffs is really all that counts, you then go back to square one where anything can happen & any team can go on a long run. You just have to win 16 more games.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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This will be terrible mistake.
Last game is case in point with what's wrong with this team.
5-4 with opposing team having 11 shots. Talbot was bad, but there were several blown coverage plays regardless.
DJ is one hell of a motivator. But it stops there. We need a more masterful tactician to get the boys to the next level.
Golden_Jet
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ReginKarlssonLehner
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The boys could very well sort it out themselves and click on chemistry.
But I am seeing far too much inconsistency, whether playing good or bad, for me to be too comfortable.
DJB
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I absolutely agree. The moment we signed Giroux to me it signalled the next step for this team and we needed to move on from cheerleader coach to a real coach
I dunno, Giroux was very clear about the time it would take for the group to gel and form an identity, and he also made it clear that he wasn’t expecting to make noise this year, rather he was playing the ‘long’ game with this team. He wanted to temper expectations right from the start for this young team.
People just got overly excited and set high expectations for themselves, even though the players, coaches, and manager all expressed caution.
Next season I expect us to see a more cohesive unit with little turn over finally. It also looks like the guys have all bought in and have started to really forge an identity. All they need now are reps to gain the experience needed to weather the highs and lows, and become that consistent threat.
DJB
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Listen DJ is a good motivation coach, a junior type coach, but if we want to win and be successful and not just scrape into the playoffs we need a coach with an actual system. We’ve been terrible 5 on 5 and defensively.
Our special teams have carried us this year
And who coaches special teams?
Listen, I just don’t believe that you’re even remotely qualified to evaluate NHL coaching, or even able to identify what an NHL system looks like. I think you see veteran teams where players look good, and think that coaches can make our team full of kids look like that Right now. That’s not how player development works.
And this is despite the evaluations of other coaches, ex pros, etc… To me you have simply latched onto a scapegoat for your dashed unrealistic expectations for the season, and you’re holding on for dear life.
DJ is a fine coach for our team, and under his watch we have improved year after year and our kids have becomes stars one after another. I’m fine with the status quo for now.
Mingus Dew
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Dorion keeping his job is a way bigger problem but it sucks that either of them will be back, let alone both. Bleh.
BonHoonLayneCornell
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Who knows what will happen. We don't even know who will own the team yet and that will obviously be a big factor.
With the sale closing so much later than anticipated, and the team having a decent showing, I won't be surprised if one or both is kept.
If there's one thing I'm comforted by, Melnyk is gone and not in charge anymore, so it will be results based decisions by presumably qualified people this time around. Things already improved 10 fold with the team not even changing hands yet.
With the sale closing so much later than anticipated, and the team having a decent showing, I won't be surprised if one or both is kept.
If there's one thing I'm comforted by, Melnyk is gone and not in charge anymore, so it will be results based decisions by presumably qualified people this time around. Things already improved 10 fold with the team not even changing hands yet.
I don’t understand why some people think new ownership is going to automatically want to bring their own people in. I don’t believe new ownership is going to dissect every trade Dorian has ever made or coaching decision DJ has made like this message board does. . I think they're going to recognize Sens have a very talented and deep young core with noticeable point improvements this year compared to last despite crucial injuries. I‘m pretty sure DJ at least plays out his contract. Next year is a big year for him for obvious reasons.
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Tuna99
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Wow the “This guy is not an NHL GM therefore his opinions do not matter on a rumour website in a thread titled “Fire the Coach” argument is being bandied
You’ve entered the obedience stage of your fandom with the the “only Pierre Dorion can understand this team” argument
Hahaha. It’s hilarious how much you hate opinions on the internet
DJB
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Therefore you are not entitled to having an opinion on how I evaluate coaches.
Thank you
Tuna99
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This is literally the stupidest thing. Somebody is on this website saying ‘don’t use this website for your opinions about hockey and the Senators, you don’t know what you’re talking about”
In a town where hockey is king, people on here have played in the AHL, QMJHL, OHL - are minor league coaches, referees, some people here have played hockey for 50 years - but none of them understand the game
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The Senators only surrendered 11 shots on net, vs the Flyers… this is the example you’re using to support your stance on the Coach?
It was clear that after the better part of a month, since Talbot played, that he was “not up to speed” and was a little rusty…. But the Coach’s defensive system, that only surrender 11 shots, in total, for the entire game is problematic for you, and reason enough to fire DJS.
you may be correct that DJS may not be the coach to get the team to the next level, and he has one more year on his contract to show whether or not he is…. so I totally expect both PD and DJS to be in place, with the Senators next season… and if the team fails to make the playoffs, then I would not not expect PD to bring DJS back for the following season
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Our dz coverage scheme isn't that complicated, we play man when the puck is up high, and switch to a 5 tight when the puck is low, but rather than have the center and D1 chase the puck in corners, well sometimes release both D and have the f3 cover the net.
Sens Vader
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Having a system and implementing it are two different things. Great coaches can implement their system.
The difference between an average boxing coach and a great one isn’t if they know what a good punch looks like, it’s how they teach it, drill it, que it, and motivate the fighter to perform it under stress
I see a 2-2-1 with man coverage in the d zone. But it’s not his system, it’s his ability to coach it.
Players are consistently confused and it’s therefore consistently a mess in the d zone from all 5 men.
That’s why he’s not a good coach.
4 years of practice, video sessions, and roster improvements. The d zone is still absolutely atrocious.
The difference between an average boxing coach and a great one isn’t if they know what a good punch looks like, it’s how they teach it, drill it, que it, and motivate the fighter to perform it under stress
I see a 2-2-1 with man coverage in the d zone. But it’s not his system, it’s his ability to coach it.
Players are consistently confused and it’s therefore consistently a mess in the d zone from all 5 men.
That’s why he’s not a good coach.
4 years of practice, video sessions, and roster improvements. The d zone is still absolutely atrocious.
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Results in so much chaos sometimes it's crazy
And leaves the points out dry
Of course nothing is perfect but Im not a fan of Capuano
We could do better with an upgrade I think
Sometimes you cannot see the Forrest through the trees
Yes, there were some defensive breakdowns. This is the NHL and regardless of who you're playing, there's talent in the other room .
Philly came into that game rested and on a 6 game point streak. We gave up 11 shots on net with our two top D not playing and we're down to 5 D half way through the first.
What you seem to see is what's wrong. We held a rested team on a 6 game point streak to 11 shots on net.
Think about that.
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