Proposal: Fire DJ Smith

[DJB]

I still want Julien . It’s time

 

[Micklebot]

You can’t make the playoffs without a winning road record.

Tampa would beg to differ

 

[Tuna99]

Tampa would beg to differ

Let’s see how this ends at the end of the season. But yes, there’s always one person willing to debate this basic stat. It happens from time to time like teams with negative goal differential making the playoffs (like the Sens last did)

But if you want to be real about it, you need a winning road record to make the playoffs. basic indictator if your team will make the playoffs

 

[Silencio]

Quenneville needs approval from the league (i.e. Bettman) before he’s allowed back in. Sounds like this Sheldon Kennedy program he’s supposedly going through could be part of that process.

 

[Micklebot]

Let’s see how this ends at the end of the season. But yes, there’s always one person willing to debate this basic stat. It happens from time to time like teams with negative goal differential making the playoffs (like the Sens last did)

But if you want to be real about it, you need a winning road record to make the playoffs. basic indictator if your team will make the playoffs

No, if I want to be real, I'd look at the facts, and the facts are teams will make the playoffs with a losing record on the road, there's typically going to be one a year, but not always.

Dallas did it last year. Vegas did it in 18-19, Colorado and the wild in 17-18

Edit: and that's with the most conservative interpretation of winning record, if I include OT and shootout loses as loses instead of using pts% you add a bunch of teams, fact is when half the league makes the playoffs of course you will get losing road records in the playoffs, it's simple math.

 

[Tuna99]

Quenneville needs approval from the league (i.e. Bettman) before he’s allowed back in. Sounds like this Sheldon Kennedy program he’s supposedly going through could be part of that process.

Seems to damaged and old now to be a leader - knowingly allowing your players to be abused by a coach under your watch and being 65 year old - no thanks. Not interested. Joel doesn’t have the values of a leader

Sens need a coach as hungry as the players. Not someone with $40 million in the bank and a rap sheet for sexual abuse

 

[Tuna99]

No, if I want to be real, I'd look at the facts, and the facts are teams will make the playoffs with a losing record on the road, there's typically going to be one a year, but not always.

Dallas did it last year. Vegas did it in 18-19, Colorado and the wild in 17-18

One year and you went back to 17-18, no wonder you have trouble with math

 

[Micklebot]

One year and you went back to 17-18, no wonder you have trouble with math

The only two years excluded where a lockout shortened year that undoubtedly had more but I exclude since it wasnt fair to include a season that had a play in round, and a 56 game divisional play season.

I'm actually quite good at math, but you don't need to be good at all to understand that in a league where half the teams make the playoffs, teams with losing records with make the show.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

A little OT...but you really have to wonder why there aren't any good developmental pipelines for coaches anymore. Don't seem to see much in the way of new blood entering the league. Most of the new coaches end up being former players with little to no coaching experience.

I wonder how that is going to play out int he next decade.

 

[slamigo]

Hard pass on Sutter if he becomes available.

 

[Golden_Jet]

If you can get past the PR aspect with Quenneville he's imo the best option out there. I'm willing to give second chances but only to those that have owned their mistakes. How do we determine if Quenneville has owned his mistake and changed for the better as a result, idk.

It’s been stated the NHL has him working with the inclusivity group, for awhile now.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

If Tampa moves on from Cooper he'd be a good option.. Coaching budget will need to have a bump

 

[Ice-Tray]

You can’t make the playoffs without a winning road record. How devastating he Chicago/Vancouver/Calgary/Edm
Road loses were

Ottawa goes 2-1-1 in those games and they are in the playoffs spot and have a winning road record

November gets lots of talk as it should, that brutal road trip ended the dream.

First of all the dream isn’t over, it’s pro sports, what’s with all the softies giving up all the time?? It ain’t over ‘till it’s over…. Unless you’re an Ottawa Senators fan I guess…

Second, having a winning record on the road as well as at home is the hallmark of a team that plays consistently. Our young team needs experience to get there. We are gaining that experience right now.

Guys think a new coach is going to give them that experience with a new system and a fiery speech, when the truth is, guys need to play and lose to learn how to play and win. They have to play games to gain experience no matter who the coach is.

We make the same strides next year that we have made this year and we are all of a sudden playoff team that is looking to learn how to win in the playoffs.

I really can’t understand the negative attitude that is prevalent in here this season.

 

[Cosmix]

Sure, but not everything can become awesome all at once in my opinion. I think the PP and PK have been great which is a huge step, and the 5 on 5 play has started to pick up as well. Change is occurring across the board and the team is getting better, much better.

The guys need consistency which comes from experience. Change will happen eventually, but I think a lot of what’s going on in this board is change for the sake of change. Fans want a clean sweep without considering the consequences.

I’d like to see a year two of DJ with a talented young roster, and he’s already under contract and has been meeting his development and team success goals so what’s the rush to change, and really, the legitimate reason?

I might maybe retain the coaching staff IF the defensive play of our forwards shows improvement over the remainder of this season, and perhaps maybe part of next season; however if it does not improve quickly, he would be a "goner"! DJ has coached with a poor roster for a few seasons and might deserve a bit more time because of that. The F play must be improved at ES asap.

First of all the dream isn’t over, it’s pro sports, what’s with all the softies giving up all the time?? It ain’t over ‘till it’s over…. Unless you’re an Ottawa Senators fan I guess…

Second, having a winning record on the road as well as at home is the hallmark of a team that plays consistently. Our young team needs experience to get there. We are gaining that experience right now.

Guys think a new coach is going to give them that experience with a new system and a fiery speech, when the truth is, guys need to play and lose to learn how to play and win. They have to play games to gain experience no matter who the coach is.

We make the same strides next year that we have made this year and we are all of a sudden playoff team that is looking to learn how to win in the playoffs.

I really can’t understand the negative attitude that is prevalent in here this season.

It is not just more experience; it is being successful at coaching and DJ has not been successful.

 

[Golden_Jet]

DJ signed an extension, does he have next year left or next year + another.?

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Jon Cooper was hired as Lightning coach 10 years ago today. Amazing longevity and undoubtedly one of the greatest coaching tenures in NHL history.

Could DJ be the next to 10?

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

Jon Cooper was hired as Lightning coach 10 years ago today. Amazing longevity and undoubtedly one of the greatest coaching tenures in NHL history.

Could DJ be the next to 10?

As an assistant maybe.

 

[Cosmix]

Quenneville needs approval from the league (i.e. Bettman) before he’s allowed back in. Sounds like this Sheldon Kennedy program he’s supposedly going through could be part of that process.

What is your source for "needs approval by the league"?

 

[Tuna99]

Hard pass on Sutter if he becomes available.

Guarantee the next coach of the Sens is an American

 

[Micklebot]

DJ signed an extension, does he have next year left or next year + another.?

I believe he's under contract for next year with a team option for 2024-25

 

[Micklebot]

Found this interesting, the difference between our record and the pens is they took 5 more of their loses to OT, we've actually won more games in Regulation than them,

 

[JD1]

Found this interesting, the difference between our record and the pens is they took 5 more of their loses to OT, we've actually won more games in Regulation than them,

November really biting us in the ass

 

[Micklebot]

November really biting us in the ass

Not to mention refs against Colorado, eggs we laid against Chi, Vancouver and Cgy, concurrent injuries to Talbot and Forsberg, losing Norris all year, ect.

There's lots of small things that could have gone the other way and been the difference between people complaining that were missing the playoff again, and us being hyped up for postseason games

I still see lots of areas where I think we could improve with better coaching (you know, from my armchair), but the game between playoffs and golfing isn't that big. I'm honestly a bit surprised we're as close as we are.

 

[JD1]

Not to mention refs against Colorado, eggs we laid against Chi, Vancouver and Cgy, concurrent injuries to Talbot and Forsberg, losing Norris all year, ect.

There's lots of small things that could have gone the other way and been the difference between people complaining that were missing the playoff again, and us being hyped up for postseason games

I still see lots of areas where I think we could improve with better coaching (you know, from my armchair), but the game between playoffs and golfing isn't that big. I'm honestly a bit surprised we're as close as we are.

I am surprised too.

I figured a lot of things needed to go right. But things went off the rails health wise. From Norris to the D injuries to the G injuries.

With a healthy season next year, I'm expecting big things

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Corvo and Preissing refusing to go into the corners to battle for pucks was our biggest weakness.

Our biggest weakness was that the ducks were much better than us.

Trading away one of if not the best two way forward in the game two seasons prior and letting the best shut down d man in the game go to free agency attributed to this